What are the reasons New York and New Jersey numbers are so high?

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DCAggie13y
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8% of the US population and 28% of the COVID deaths.

In terms of COVID deaths per capita, 11 out of the top 14 states are run by Democrats. Why are these Dem states doing so poorly?
Artorias
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Because ORANGE MAN BAD
DrEvazanPhD
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Millions compressed into a small area with weapons-grade ******s in charge.
ThunderCougarFalconBird
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They put COVID patients back into nursing homes, thereby infecting other octogenarians and effectively acting as a death sentence for them as well.

Killing meemaw and peepaw is why the media hails Cuomo as a hero to this day.
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Gumby said:

8% of the US population and 28% of the COVID deaths.

In terms of COVID deaths per capita, 11 out of the top 14 states are run by Democrats. Why are these Dem states doing so well?
Killing people for political gain?

It's what leftists do.
Detmersdislocatedshoulder
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Absolutely terrible leadership accross the board.
mazag08
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Because they are full of disgusting idiots. Lock down the borders and don't allow a single one in to Texas.
Slicer97
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Their leadership is incompetent.

The only things at which Democrat politicians excel is lying and grifting.
Ag87H2O
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Incompetent Democrat leadership and the ignorant voters that repeatedly place them in office is the common denominator.
amfta
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It certainly can't be Dem Leadership and the multitude of stupid Dems living up there cause nothing is ever THEIR fault.

I suggest checking in with the MSM they'll happily tell you who's fault it is, they're really smart and care about you. .
MaroonStain
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Population density.
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Sid Farkas
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too many stupids and too many fattys living too close together
Prosperdick
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blindey said:

They put COVID patients back into nursing homes, thereby infecting other octogenarians and effectively acting as a death sentence for them as well.

Killing meemaw and peepaw is why the media hails Cuomo as a hero to this day.
I finally heard a credible reason as to why they stupidly chose to put those patients back into the nursing homes, apparently they forecasted a need for over 100,000 hospital beds, likely based on all the ridiculous models that the "experts" put together. At their peak they ended up only needing one fifth the amount (~19,000).

The fact we continue to listen to these same "experts" is a mystery to me and anyone else that awful at their job would be fired a long time ago.
DCAggie13y
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MaroonStain said:

Population density.


Washington DC's ppulation density is 25x higher than New York state and they have half the rate of COVID deaths.
beerad12man
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Prosperdick said:

blindey said:

They put COVID patients back into nursing homes, thereby infecting other octogenarians and effectively acting as a death sentence for them as well.

Killing meemaw and peepaw is why the media hails Cuomo as a hero to this day.
I finally heard a credible reason as to why they stupidly chose to put those patients back into the nursing homes, apparently they forecasted a need for over 100,000 hospital beds, likely based on all the ridiculous models that the "experts" put together. At their peak they ended up only needing one fifth the amount (~19,000).

The fact we continue to listen to these same "experts" is a mystery to me and anyone else that awful at their job would be fired a long time ago.
It was unbelievable how after we saw all what happened in NYC, we still went this route.

All we needed was to let the young and healthy spread this, keep it out of nursing homes, and strongly recommend the elderly social distance as much as possible. Would have never overwhelmed hospitals with just a common sense approach. Keep it from being so highly publicized. 99.99% of the country would be better for it right now.
aggie93
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Very simple.

They had a chaotic response with the State and Local government's in disarray and reflexively panicked and sent nursing home patients that were sick back to nursing homes to free up space in hospitals that they never needed. Then they proceeded to kill 1/6th of the people in Nursing homes because COVID is really only dangerous with the elderly. All the states that didn't protect the elderly had massive death totals.

If you look at Austin for instance about 3% of all cases are 80+ but they are just short of 40% of the deaths. Once you get below 50 you have lots of cases and fewer and fewer deaths.

The "we got hit first" argument is also BS. Washington got hit first and it was hit in a nursing home where they had a bunch of fatalities. They locked up the nursing homes after that and their numbers have been very average. This was about mismanagement in the NE States. Take those deaths out and the US numbers are significantly different.
DCAggie13y
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Good point about Washington. They should be pointed to as getting it right. Not NY. Total joke that Fauici pointed to NY, the death epicenter of the US as doing it right.
4stringAg
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Florida also did it right. At the time NY was getting all the deaths and Cuomo getting praised, Desantis was getting killed for having beaches open yet I think I heard a stat that at that time not one person in that huge retirement mecca The Villages (around Orlando I think) had a case of Covid.
MaroonStain
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Gumby said:

MaroonStain said:

Population density.


Washington DC's ppulation density is 25x higher than New York state and they have half the rate of COVID deaths.


Hmmm...and DC is just as dirty as NYC.

Maybe because NYC has more shared air crammed housing and transit?
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DCAggie13y
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MaroonStain said:

Gumby said:

MaroonStain said:

Population density.


Washington DC's ppulation density is 25x higher than New York state and they have half the rate of COVID deaths.


Hmmm...and DC is just as dirty as NYC.

Maybe because NYC has more shared air crammed housing and transit?


NYC is more dense than DC but NY state is pretty large and spread out.
The Shank Ag
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Several reasons, but the three biggest are probably:

  • Population density
  • Governor Cuomo's dumbassery with nursing homes.
  • Hit there hard early before better ways of treating it were known. Mix that with the first two and disastrous results
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