Anyone here switching their vote from 2016?

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Zombie Jon Snow
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gig em 02 said:

Zombie Jon Snow said:

gig em 02 said:

aggieforester05 said:

texaglurkerguy said:

aggieforester05 said:

That_Guy_Moose said:

aggieforester05 said:

That_Guy_Moose said:

aggieforester05 said:

Malibu said:

barnyard1996 said:

Malibu said:

e=mc2 said:

If this thread is an indicator of a larger response, Biden is in deep doodoo.
It is not. This board is to the right of Texas as a whole, and to the nation at large. See what happens when I post that I will vote for Biden as evidence of the welcoming tone of this place for non-conforming views.
I agree with you about this forum. Therefore, I will remind you that Biden has an enthusiasm gap of about 25, nationally.

ETA, I guess that noise about Biden taking Texas is well...just noise.
People arent motivated to vote for Biden. They are very motivated to vote against Trump. Thats a meaningful enthusiasm metric.


People are also very motivated about voting against the nutcase **** bag Democrats. They are CRAZY and rational Americans know it.


Not saying you're wrong at all, but many people see it the other way.

The country is more divided than it has ever been.


Those people are brainwashed and wrong. The political right in this country are the adults in the room. There is nothing crazy about trying to uphold the constitution, capitalism, and American values. The left's caricature of the right is based on the dominance of radical left wing propaganda posing as objective news and academia. Trump's lack of tact had helped fuel that demonization, but that doesn't make Republican policies insane. Democrat's agenda straight from the horses mouth is insane, radical, and would be devastating to the US and the free world of it was ever seen to completion.


Broadly claiming opposing views are brainwashed and wrong is part of the problem. I implore you to please read the democratic platform this week. I guarantee that it will be far more moderate than you think it will be based on the above.

Democrat politicians have plenty of reason to believe the constitution and US power is under attack as well from the other side.

There are good policies and ideas on both sides.

The nation needs to come back to its senses and work for bipartisan solutions that bring out the best in all of America and not just one side or the other.
I have read the Democrat platform and it's nuts. The only reasonable idea they have is legalization of MJ.

There are no good ideas from the Democratic side of the aisle. I wish there were. The country needs two reasonable parties with different ideas that meet in the middle for bipartisan solutions.

We do not currently have that. We have a party that's been hijacked by radical Marxist and then a party who just shows enough opposition to that to stay in power.

Any bipartisan solutions with the current Democrat party means we are losing rights as Americans.

The Democrats desperately need a reformation that brings them back to classical liberalism.

Their voters are most certainly brainwashed too. I know that sounds like hyperbole, but the overwhelming majority of news sources, entertainment, academia, and corporate atmospheres are pumping out liberal propaganda 24/7. If they live outside of conservative areas, then they have to seek out conservative viewpoints or they only hear them through the filter of liberal biased sources that take them out of context. If the average urban liberal dismisses everything Trump says and/or Fox News says, where else would they encounter conservative opinions?
As a left-leaning urbanite, this is actually why I read this forum. Great resource for learning the conservative position on a number of topics. That said, if anything my time here has pushed me leftward, moreso than my consumption of mainstream news sources.


Why do you think that is? Does the opposition to your viewpoints make you more entrenched or does hearing the conservative viewpoints clarify the rightness of the liberal positions in your mind? The former would make more sense to me.
Some of the posters here, especially the true conservatives, come across as rude and heartless and are horrible advocates for conservative ideology. I wouldn't be surprised if every moderate/left leaning person that visited this forum found themselves being pushed further left by some of the most outspoken posters here.

You all know who they are. You just dont care, and they dont care, and an ideology (conservatism) that can only succeed and spread if individuals show compassion and kindness towards their neighbors will never be advanced by a place like this.


If you (and the other Libs posting on this thread) think WE are rude wait until your overlords get complete control.

You are in your own words being pushed further left by the rudeness of the right - toward something you seem to think is kind and compassionate. Meanwhile while we might be rude, but we are fighting against people that are actively working to


  • abolish the Constitution that provides basically all of your freedoms and protections from an oppresive government
  • disarm the populace which is the only defense against tyranny
  • limit speech to only approved speech
  • not just accepting but normalizing things like pedophilia
  • decriminalizing almost everything
  • not just reducing but completely defunding and removing police
  • "compassionately" allowing our country to be bankrupted by opening borders and giving benefits to anyone and everyone that has not contributed to it

You can be compassionate and kind all you want - in the system they would create you will be a mindless servant sheep to the system without rights, dignity or opportunity just like everyone else...but at least random people on the internet won't be rude to you any more because that's worse right?

Just do me a favor and remember this when you are equal to everyone, but have nothing except that which is given to you by the government you picked. I guess you'll feel better about yourself then.

Me...I'm going down fighting for liberty. It's worth fighting for and being a little rude if I have to.




You've proven my point. I've voted libertarian in the last 4 elections and am a huge proponent of small government.

Liberals have the freedom to act like jerks because liberalism relies on "forced kindness" (literally at gun point). Conservatism requires people to voluntarily take care of each other. So when you ignorantly make comments like you do then people that are compassionate and moderate or lean left are pushed further left because there is no way they will count on a jerk like you to help out your neighbor voluntarily.

You have lowered yourself to their level, and conservatism will never be advanced with the way that you treat people.

Really though, you are a troll that is just trying to make conservatives look bad, right? There is no way you actually think what you wrote is persuasive.

Persuasive???? PERSUASIVE????

LMAO. What makes you think I'm trying to persuade you of anything. Merely pointing out what you are supporting whether you are a Liberal or a libertarian because if you don't vote against that garbage you are voting for it.

It's not about how we treat you - or anyone else. Your mind is made up so that is irrelevant and it is just an excuse you use. If you can't see it for yourself there is no helping you anyway.
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Aggie4242 said:

Pinche Abogado said:

To the former, that describes the progressive general population. As to the latter, that describes the progressive political elite.

It's not fascinating, it's just the truth.


It's actually not, which is the point I was trying to make. Folks on here succumb to hyperbole and automatically assume it's truth when it isn't. You want to believe it's true in order to demonize the "liberals". It isn't productive discussion.


Even assuming good intent (which I believe is largely the case among normal Democrats) and ignoring the "fringes" (which are a disproportionately large part of the Democratic base - need I remind you how close Bernie was), let's keep it simple. Democratic policies do not work. Take a look around at all the failing municipal governments that are Democratic strongholds. Nothing ever changes. In fact, things get progressively worse. The only reason NYC, where I used to live, is even livable today (going South again) is because A Republican took over in the 90s. It was a crime ridden ****hole. And it's headed that way again.

Please explain, if Democratic policies work, why do they fail so miserably so often?
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aggieforester05 said:

texaglurkerguy said:

aggieforester05 said:

That_Guy_Moose said:

aggieforester05 said:

That_Guy_Moose said:

aggieforester05 said:

Malibu said:

barnyard1996 said:

Malibu said:

e=mc2 said:

If this thread is an indicator of a larger response, Biden is in deep doodoo.
It is not. This board is to the right of Texas as a whole, and to the nation at large. See what happens when I post that I will vote for Biden as evidence of the welcoming tone of this place for non-conforming views.
I agree with you about this forum. Therefore, I will remind you that Biden has an enthusiasm gap of about 25, nationally.

ETA, I guess that noise about Biden taking Texas is well...just noise.
People arent motivated to vote for Biden. They are very motivated to vote against Trump. Thats a meaningful enthusiasm metric.


People are also very motivated about voting against the nutcase **** bag Democrats. They are CRAZY and rational Americans know it.


Not saying you're wrong at all, but many people see it the other way.

The country is more divided than it has ever been.


Those people are brainwashed and wrong. The political right in this country are the adults in the room. There is nothing crazy about trying to uphold the constitution, capitalism, and American values. The left's caricature of the right is based on the dominance of radical left wing propaganda posing as objective news and academia. Trump's lack of tact had helped fuel that demonization, but that doesn't make Republican policies insane. Democrat's agenda straight from the horses mouth is insane, radical, and would be devastating to the US and the free world of it was ever seen to completion.


Broadly claiming opposing views are brainwashed and wrong is part of the problem. I implore you to please read the democratic platform this week. I guarantee that it will be far more moderate than you think it will be based on the above.

Democrat politicians have plenty of reason to believe the constitution and US power is under attack as well from the other side.

There are good policies and ideas on both sides.

The nation needs to come back to its senses and work for bipartisan solutions that bring out the best in all of America and not just one side or the other.
I have read the Democrat platform and it's nuts. The only reasonable idea they have is legalization of MJ.

There are no good ideas from the Democratic side of the aisle. I wish there were. The country needs two reasonable parties with different ideas that meet in the middle for bipartisan solutions.

We do not currently have that. We have a party that's been hijacked by radical Marxist and then a party who just shows enough opposition to that to stay in power.

Any bipartisan solutions with the current Democrat party means we are losing rights as Americans.

The Democrats desperately need a reformation that brings them back to classical liberalism.

Their voters are most certainly brainwashed too. I know that sounds like hyperbole, but the overwhelming majority of news sources, entertainment, academia, and corporate atmospheres are pumping out liberal propaganda 24/7. If they live outside of conservative areas, then they have to seek out conservative viewpoints or they only hear them through the filter of liberal biased sources that take them out of context. If the average urban liberal dismisses everything Trump says and/or Fox News says, where else would they encounter conservative opinions?
As a left-leaning urbanite, this is actually why I read this forum. Great resource for learning the conservative position on a number of topics. That said, if anything my time here has pushed me leftward, moreso than my consumption of mainstream news sources.


Why do you think that is? Does the opposition to your viewpoints make you more entrenched or does hearing the conservative viewpoints clarify the rightness of the liberal positions in your mind? The former would make more sense to me.


The latter. The better I understand conservative policy, the reasoning behind it, and the viewpoints of those who espouse it, the more it seems to solidify my political beliefs.

That's not to say I don't hold some conservative positions and won't vote for republicans, however.
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Old Army Metal said:

Cassius said:

Old Army Metal said:

Voted R every election from 1998-2012. Abstained in 2016 because I'm registered in Texas and was leaning Trump.

Went back active duty after the election and would do figuratively anything to make my Commander-in-Chief anyone but Trump.

I dont believe you. Your posting on this board is pure hard left.
If you're far enough to the right, everything looks pure hard left.
...and some things are just hard left, like
- socialized medicine
- $15/hr mandated minimum wage
- late term abortion
- rioting OK, church not OK
- forcing school-aged girls to shower and change with biological males

All issues embraced by Dems. You vote Dem, you support those positions.
A & M, GIVE US ROOM!

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WHOOP!'91 said:

Old Army Metal said:

Cassius said:

Old Army Metal said:

Voted R every election from 1998-2012. Abstained in 2016 because I'm registered in Texas and was leaning Trump.

Went back active duty after the election and would do figuratively anything to make my Commander-in-Chief anyone but Trump.

I dont believe you. Your posting on this board is pure hard left.
If you're far enough to the right, everything looks pure hard left.
...and some things are just hard left, like
- socialized medicine
- $15/hr mandated minimum wage
- late term abortion
- rioting OK, church not OK
- forcing school-aged girls to shower and change with biological males

All issues embraced by Dems. You vote Dem, you support those positions.
Don't forget abusing your powers to spy and ultimately launch a coups against a duly elected president.
WHOOP!'91
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barnyard1996 said:

WHOOP!'91 said:

Old Army Metal said:

Cassius said:

Old Army Metal said:

Voted R every election from 1998-2012. Abstained in 2016 because I'm registered in Texas and was leaning Trump.

Went back active duty after the election and would do figuratively anything to make my Commander-in-Chief anyone but Trump.

I dont believe you. Your posting on this board is pure hard left.
If you're far enough to the right, everything looks pure hard left.
...and some things are just hard left, like
- socialized medicine
- $15/hr mandated minimum wage
- late term abortion
- rioting OK, church not OK
- forcing school-aged girls to shower and change with biological males

All issues embraced by Dems. You vote Dem, you support those positions.
Don't forget abusing your powers to spy and ultimately launch a coups against a duly elected president.
Well, that was OK because Trump just has to be dirty. Even though a $35MM investigation by partisan Democrat lawyers didn't uncover any corruption, still...I just know it.
A & M, GIVE US ROOM!

Jbob04
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I'm surprised at how many on here voting libertarian. What a waste of a vote. Lol at voting for this guy
aggieforester05
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texaglurkerguy said:

aggieforester05 said:

texaglurkerguy said:

aggieforester05 said:

That_Guy_Moose said:

aggieforester05 said:

That_Guy_Moose said:

aggieforester05 said:

Malibu said:

barnyard1996 said:

Malibu said:

e=mc2 said:

If this thread is an indicator of a larger response, Biden is in deep doodoo.
It is not. This board is to the right of Texas as a whole, and to the nation at large. See what happens when I post that I will vote for Biden as evidence of the welcoming tone of this place for non-conforming views.
I agree with you about this forum. Therefore, I will remind you that Biden has an enthusiasm gap of about 25, nationally.

ETA, I guess that noise about Biden taking Texas is well...just noise.
People arent motivated to vote for Biden. They are very motivated to vote against Trump. Thats a meaningful enthusiasm metric.


People are also very motivated about voting against the nutcase **** bag Democrats. They are CRAZY and rational Americans know it.


Not saying you're wrong at all, but many people see it the other way.

The country is more divided than it has ever been.


Those people are brainwashed and wrong. The political right in this country are the adults in the room. There is nothing crazy about trying to uphold the constitution, capitalism, and American values. The left's caricature of the right is based on the dominance of radical left wing propaganda posing as objective news and academia. Trump's lack of tact had helped fuel that demonization, but that doesn't make Republican policies insane. Democrat's agenda straight from the horses mouth is insane, radical, and would be devastating to the US and the free world of it was ever seen to completion.


Broadly claiming opposing views are brainwashed and wrong is part of the problem. I implore you to please read the democratic platform this week. I guarantee that it will be far more moderate than you think it will be based on the above.

Democrat politicians have plenty of reason to believe the constitution and US power is under attack as well from the other side.

There are good policies and ideas on both sides.

The nation needs to come back to its senses and work for bipartisan solutions that bring out the best in all of America and not just one side or the other.
I have read the Democrat platform and it's nuts. The only reasonable idea they have is legalization of MJ.

There are no good ideas from the Democratic side of the aisle. I wish there were. The country needs two reasonable parties with different ideas that meet in the middle for bipartisan solutions.

We do not currently have that. We have a party that's been hijacked by radical Marxist and then a party who just shows enough opposition to that to stay in power.

Any bipartisan solutions with the current Democrat party means we are losing rights as Americans.

The Democrats desperately need a reformation that brings them back to classical liberalism.

Their voters are most certainly brainwashed too. I know that sounds like hyperbole, but the overwhelming majority of news sources, entertainment, academia, and corporate atmospheres are pumping out liberal propaganda 24/7. If they live outside of conservative areas, then they have to seek out conservative viewpoints or they only hear them through the filter of liberal biased sources that take them out of context. If the average urban liberal dismisses everything Trump says and/or Fox News says, where else would they encounter conservative opinions?
As a left-leaning urbanite, this is actually why I read this forum. Great resource for learning the conservative position on a number of topics. That said, if anything my time here has pushed me leftward, moreso than my consumption of mainstream news sources.


Why do you think that is? Does the opposition to your viewpoints make you more entrenched or does hearing the conservative viewpoints clarify the rightness of the liberal positions in your mind? The former would make more sense to me.


The latter. The better I understand conservative policy, the reasoning behind it, and the viewpoints of those who espouse it, the more it seems to solidify my political beliefs.


Why? Is liberty really that distasteful to you? Are you by chance looking for racism in it? If so, I think the left is very guilty of finding racism where it doesn't exist with regards to conservative policy positions. I hope you're giving it an honest chance and not allowing preconceived notions to skew your perspective. Hard to see how a true understanding of those policy positions, the reasoning behind them, and the viewpoints of those behind them could make you go further left than those that only rely on liberal propaganda to form their views about conservative positions. What is so wrong in your opinion?
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Aggie4242 said:


"F16 is not a bastion of moderate thought and I love reading all of the things "liberals" (that word really doesn't have meaning other then "boogeyman" at this point) are and aren't't, mainly because it comes across as so contradictory. For example:

Liberals are all lazy, welfare having losers with liberal arts degrees.

Liberals are so powerful that not only will they confiscate every gun in America, they will turn it into an iron-fisted dictatorship that will arm terrorist groups and have them only attack conservatives."



This dichotomy is nothing more than the method employed by the left to achieve their desired result. The left patiently began with infiltration of our educational system and the areas of study you mention "liberal arts" are offshoots of their goal of educating our children to make Cultural Marxism palatable and helps them to undermine and destroy Western culture and values.

This educational component is just the mechanism to help make generations of Americans believe in the lie of communism. One of the founders of BLM is an admitted marxist. BLM is leading the street riots you see now and are a continuation of their evil quest. Make no mistake the goal is and will always remain worldwide communism. That system has already shown over and over that communists have no problem running an "iron fisted dictatorship" that will crush anyone seen as a "conservative".

Even if the American people wake up and deliver a Trump landslide in November the real fight is to take back our education system and our culture from the Cultural Marxists or as you call them "liberals".
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Below was taken from a different thread, but here is one person voting Republican "with their nose pinched"

fordmd said:

Infection_Ag11 said:

RAB87 said:

Doctor speaking out on successful HCL results have been on the liberal/Democrat firing line since the beginning of the pandemic. They want to destroy Trump more than they want a vaccine or treatment.


Many on all sides are attacking those in healthcare who don't support their viewpoint. Tony Fauci is one of the most distinguished and decorated physicians of the last half century whose work has done immeasurable good for mankind, but that hasn't stopped many from attacking him as a "quack".

Your complaint isn't somehow unique to liberals.
Agreed...The hijacking of a public health emergency by those eager for power is as classic a play as seen in history--exploit chaos as opportunity. As a true social liberal, fiscal moderate, I will be voting straight Republican this year with my nose pinched...not to highjack the discussion with my personal leanings.

Such venomous opinions from the press and our "leaders" has been a true counter current to effectively navigating this health care quagmire. Now they (both sides mind you) see opportunity to interject in sport, where there is clear public interest. We will now make a complex situation binary in an attempt to shore up support for the election.

Myocarditis and viruses go together like peanut butter and jelly...Does Covid have a greater propensity to cause? Unknown. Is myocarditis treatable? aha, there's the rub...it is. It is a post infection complication, like the clotting. If they are frequently testing the players for the virus, we separate those with risk ideally before symptoms develop and can screen the at risk at the time. Holistically removing competition due to this concern without exploring the details is myopic.

Are we going to stop selling sugary food because some diabetics might go into ketoacidosis...of course not. Screening identifies those at risk. Separate those at risk for further screening, treat those that require treatment. Withold participation for those unfit to participate. Rocket science here....
Faustus
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Monywolf said:

Faustus said:

Hoped to switch back to the Democrats, but can't bring myself to vote Biden and the party is veering too far left fiscally.
That's it? That's your problem with the Dems??
Mainly.
I identify with Democrats on almost all the social issues.

At least we have our attachment to our income in common, if nothing else.
Barnyard96
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Faustus said:

Monywolf said:

Faustus said:

Hoped to switch back to the Democrats, but can't bring myself to vote Biden and the party is veering too far left fiscally.
That's it? That's your problem with the Dems??
Mainly.
I identify with Democrats on almost all the social issues.

At least we have our attachment to our income in common, if nothing else.
Aren't the Dem's social programs tied to their fiscal policies?
Old Army Metal
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barnyard1996 said:

Faustus said:

Monywolf said:

Faustus said:

Hoped to switch back to the Democrats, but can't bring myself to vote Biden and the party is veering too far left fiscally.
That's it? That's your problem with the Dems??
Mainly.
I identify with Democrats on almost all the social issues.

At least we have our attachment to our income in common, if nothing else.
Aren't the Dem's social programs tied to their fiscal policies?
Everybody's social programs are tied to their fiscal policies.
aggieforester05
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Are you guys/gals voting for Democrats at all concerned about their intentional stoking of racial tensions to motivate their base? How has setting race relations back 50 years improved the country?
Barnyard96
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Old Army Metal said:

barnyard1996 said:

Faustus said:

Monywolf said:

Faustus said:

Hoped to switch back to the Democrats, but can't bring myself to vote Biden and the party is veering too far left fiscally.
That's it? That's your problem with the Dems??
Mainly.
I identify with Democrats on almost all the social issues.

At least we have our attachment to our income in common, if nothing else.
Aren't the Dem's social programs tied to their fiscal policies?
Everybody's social programs are tied to their fiscal policies.
Making my point.
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Zombie Jon Snow said:

gig em 02 said:

Zombie Jon Snow said:

gig em 02 said:

aggieforester05 said:

texaglurkerguy said:

aggieforester05 said:

That_Guy_Moose said:

aggieforester05 said:

That_Guy_Moose said:

aggieforester05 said:

Malibu said:

barnyard1996 said:

Malibu said:

e=mc2 said:

If this thread is an indicator of a larger response, Biden is in deep doodoo.
It is not. This board is to the right of Texas as a whole, and to the nation at large. See what happens when I post that I will vote for Biden as evidence of the welcoming tone of this place for non-conforming views.
I agree with you about this forum. Therefore, I will remind you that Biden has an enthusiasm gap of about 25, nationally.

ETA, I guess that noise about Biden taking Texas is well...just noise.
People arent motivated to vote for Biden. They are very motivated to vote against Trump. Thats a meaningful enthusiasm metric.


People are also very motivated about voting against the nutcase **** bag Democrats. They are CRAZY and rational Americans know it.


Not saying you're wrong at all, but many people see it the other way.

The country is more divided than it has ever been.


Those people are brainwashed and wrong. The political right in this country are the adults in the room. There is nothing crazy about trying to uphold the constitution, capitalism, and American values. The left's caricature of the right is based on the dominance of radical left wing propaganda posing as objective news and academia. Trump's lack of tact had helped fuel that demonization, but that doesn't make Republican policies insane. Democrat's agenda straight from the horses mouth is insane, radical, and would be devastating to the US and the free world of it was ever seen to completion.


Broadly claiming opposing views are brainwashed and wrong is part of the problem. I implore you to please read the democratic platform this week. I guarantee that it will be far more moderate than you think it will be based on the above.

Democrat politicians have plenty of reason to believe the constitution and US power is under attack as well from the other side.

There are good policies and ideas on both sides.

The nation needs to come back to its senses and work for bipartisan solutions that bring out the best in all of America and not just one side or the other.
I have read the Democrat platform and it's nuts. The only reasonable idea they have is legalization of MJ.

There are no good ideas from the Democratic side of the aisle. I wish there were. The country needs two reasonable parties with different ideas that meet in the middle for bipartisan solutions.

We do not currently have that. We have a party that's been hijacked by radical Marxist and then a party who just shows enough opposition to that to stay in power.

Any bipartisan solutions with the current Democrat party means we are losing rights as Americans.

The Democrats desperately need a reformation that brings them back to classical liberalism.

Their voters are most certainly brainwashed too. I know that sounds like hyperbole, but the overwhelming majority of news sources, entertainment, academia, and corporate atmospheres are pumping out liberal propaganda 24/7. If they live outside of conservative areas, then they have to seek out conservative viewpoints or they only hear them through the filter of liberal biased sources that take them out of context. If the average urban liberal dismisses everything Trump says and/or Fox News says, where else would they encounter conservative opinions?
As a left-leaning urbanite, this is actually why I read this forum. Great resource for learning the conservative position on a number of topics. That said, if anything my time here has pushed me leftward, moreso than my consumption of mainstream news sources.


Why do you think that is? Does the opposition to your viewpoints make you more entrenched or does hearing the conservative viewpoints clarify the rightness of the liberal positions in your mind? The former would make more sense to me.
Some of the posters here, especially the true conservatives, come across as rude and heartless and are horrible advocates for conservative ideology. I wouldn't be surprised if every moderate/left leaning person that visited this forum found themselves being pushed further left by some of the most outspoken posters here.

You all know who they are. You just dont care, and they dont care, and an ideology (conservatism) that can only succeed and spread if individuals show compassion and kindness towards their neighbors will never be advanced by a place like this.


If you (and the other Libs posting on this thread) think WE are rude wait until your overlords get complete control.

You are in your own words being pushed further left by the rudeness of the right - toward something you seem to think is kind and compassionate. Meanwhile while we might be rude, but we are fighting against people that are actively working to


  • abolish the Constitution that provides basically all of your freedoms and protections from an oppresive government
  • disarm the populace which is the only defense against tyranny
  • limit speech to only approved speech
  • not just accepting but normalizing things like pedophilia
  • decriminalizing almost everything
  • not just reducing but completely defunding and removing police
  • "compassionately" allowing our country to be bankrupted by opening borders and giving benefits to anyone and everyone that has not contributed to it

You can be compassionate and kind all you want - in the system they would create you will be a mindless servant sheep to the system without rights, dignity or opportunity just like everyone else...but at least random people on the internet won't be rude to you any more because that's worse right?

Just do me a favor and remember this when you are equal to everyone, but have nothing except that which is given to you by the government you picked. I guess you'll feel better about yourself then.

Me...I'm going down fighting for liberty. It's worth fighting for and being a little rude if I have to.




You've proven my point. I've voted libertarian in the last 4 elections and am a huge proponent of small government.

Liberals have the freedom to act like jerks because liberalism relies on "forced kindness" (literally at gun point). Conservatism requires people to voluntarily take care of each other. So when you ignorantly make comments like you do then people that are compassionate and moderate or lean left are pushed further left because there is no way they will count on a jerk like you to help out your neighbor voluntarily.

You have lowered yourself to their level, and conservatism will never be advanced with the way that you treat people.

Really though, you are a troll that is just trying to make conservatives look bad, right? There is no way you actually think what you wrote is persuasive.

Persuasive???? PERSUASIVE????

LMAO. What makes you think I'm trying to persuade you of anything. Merely pointing out what you are supporting whether you are a Liberal or a libertarian because if you don't vote against that garbage you are voting for it.

It's not about how we treat you - or anyone else. Your mind is made up so that is irrelevant and it is just an excuse you use. If you can't see it for yourself there is no helping you anyway.



...says the guy named after a propaganda piece about climate change...
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gig em 02 said:

Zombie Jon Snow said:

gig em 02 said:

Zombie Jon Snow said:

gig em 02 said:

aggieforester05 said:

texaglurkerguy said:

aggieforester05 said:

That_Guy_Moose said:

aggieforester05 said:

That_Guy_Moose said:

aggieforester05 said:

Malibu said:

barnyard1996 said:

Malibu said:

e=mc2 said:

If this thread is an indicator of a larger response, Biden is in deep doodoo.
It is not. This board is to the right of Texas as a whole, and to the nation at large. See what happens when I post that I will vote for Biden as evidence of the welcoming tone of this place for non-conforming views.
I agree with you about this forum. Therefore, I will remind you that Biden has an enthusiasm gap of about 25, nationally.

ETA, I guess that noise about Biden taking Texas is well...just noise.
People arent motivated to vote for Biden. They are very motivated to vote against Trump. Thats a meaningful enthusiasm metric.


People are also very motivated about voting against the nutcase **** bag Democrats. They are CRAZY and rational Americans know it.


Not saying you're wrong at all, but many people see it the other way.

The country is more divided than it has ever been.


Those people are brainwashed and wrong. The political right in this country are the adults in the room. There is nothing crazy about trying to uphold the constitution, capitalism, and American values. The left's caricature of the right is based on the dominance of radical left wing propaganda posing as objective news and academia. Trump's lack of tact had helped fuel that demonization, but that doesn't make Republican policies insane. Democrat's agenda straight from the horses mouth is insane, radical, and would be devastating to the US and the free world of it was ever seen to completion.


Broadly claiming opposing views are brainwashed and wrong is part of the problem. I implore you to please read the democratic platform this week. I guarantee that it will be far more moderate than you think it will be based on the above.

Democrat politicians have plenty of reason to believe the constitution and US power is under attack as well from the other side.

There are good policies and ideas on both sides.

The nation needs to come back to its senses and work for bipartisan solutions that bring out the best in all of America and not just one side or the other.
I have read the Democrat platform and it's nuts. The only reasonable idea they have is legalization of MJ.

There are no good ideas from the Democratic side of the aisle. I wish there were. The country needs two reasonable parties with different ideas that meet in the middle for bipartisan solutions.

We do not currently have that. We have a party that's been hijacked by radical Marxist and then a party who just shows enough opposition to that to stay in power.

Any bipartisan solutions with the current Democrat party means we are losing rights as Americans.

The Democrats desperately need a reformation that brings them back to classical liberalism.

Their voters are most certainly brainwashed too. I know that sounds like hyperbole, but the overwhelming majority of news sources, entertainment, academia, and corporate atmospheres are pumping out liberal propaganda 24/7. If they live outside of conservative areas, then they have to seek out conservative viewpoints or they only hear them through the filter of liberal biased sources that take them out of context. If the average urban liberal dismisses everything Trump says and/or Fox News says, where else would they encounter conservative opinions?
As a left-leaning urbanite, this is actually why I read this forum. Great resource for learning the conservative position on a number of topics. That said, if anything my time here has pushed me leftward, moreso than my consumption of mainstream news sources.


Why do you think that is? Does the opposition to your viewpoints make you more entrenched or does hearing the conservative viewpoints clarify the rightness of the liberal positions in your mind? The former would make more sense to me.
Some of the posters here, especially the true conservatives, come across as rude and heartless and are horrible advocates for conservative ideology. I wouldn't be surprised if every moderate/left leaning person that visited this forum found themselves being pushed further left by some of the most outspoken posters here.

You all know who they are. You just dont care, and they dont care, and an ideology (conservatism) that can only succeed and spread if individuals show compassion and kindness towards their neighbors will never be advanced by a place like this.


If you (and the other Libs posting on this thread) think WE are rude wait until your overlords get complete control.

You are in your own words being pushed further left by the rudeness of the right - toward something you seem to think is kind and compassionate. Meanwhile while we might be rude, but we are fighting against people that are actively working to


  • abolish the Constitution that provides basically all of your freedoms and protections from an oppresive government
  • disarm the populace which is the only defense against tyranny
  • limit speech to only approved speech
  • not just accepting but normalizing things like pedophilia
  • decriminalizing almost everything
  • not just reducing but completely defunding and removing police
  • "compassionately" allowing our country to be bankrupted by opening borders and giving benefits to anyone and everyone that has not contributed to it

You can be compassionate and kind all you want - in the system they would create you will be a mindless servant sheep to the system without rights, dignity or opportunity just like everyone else...but at least random people on the internet won't be rude to you any more because that's worse right?

Just do me a favor and remember this when you are equal to everyone, but have nothing except that which is given to you by the government you picked. I guess you'll feel better about yourself then.

Me...I'm going down fighting for liberty. It's worth fighting for and being a little rude if I have to.




You've proven my point. I've voted libertarian in the last 4 elections and am a huge proponent of small government.

Liberals have the freedom to act like jerks because liberalism relies on "forced kindness" (literally at gun point). Conservatism requires people to voluntarily take care of each other. So when you ignorantly make comments like you do then people that are compassionate and moderate or lean left are pushed further left because there is no way they will count on a jerk like you to help out your neighbor voluntarily.

You have lowered yourself to their level, and conservatism will never be advanced with the way that you treat people.

Really though, you are a troll that is just trying to make conservatives look bad, right? There is no way you actually think what you wrote is persuasive.

Persuasive???? PERSUASIVE????

LMAO. What makes you think I'm trying to persuade you of anything. Merely pointing out what you are supporting whether you are a Liberal or a libertarian because if you don't vote against that garbage you are voting for it.

It's not about how we treat you - or anyone else. Your mind is made up so that is irrelevant and it is just an excuse you use. If you can't see it for yourself there is no helping you anyway.



...says the guy named after a propaganda piece about climate change...

lalllollollolololololololllolol

wow...really great comeback. i'm just so so hurt cuz you made fun of my username.... which itself is mocking the fictional character of the fictional story you apparently are all bent about.

i'm sorry your house lost. it'll be ok.

lmao. you seriously think i'm being persuasive because of my username like that somehow affects peoples views on climate change.

you really see demons everywhere and everyone and everything offends you - sad but now it all makes sense.

take deep breaths and throw your vote away on a meaningless alternative candidate cuz it obviously makes you feel better.

i'm not even sure you get a participation trophy for that - but i'll make sure you get one if it makes you feel better.


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Top reason for voting for Trump in 2020, Ginsberg is bound to kick the bucket soon or at the very least retire.
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Conservatives are rude? Have y'all seen the rioters in Portland and Seattle? That is the liberal youth of today. Vile, cruel, and dumb.
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HeadGames said:

Conservatives are rude? Have y'all seen the rioters in Portland and Seattle? That is the liberal youth of today. Vile, cruel, and dumb.

the faces of Liberalism









But we're rude. Got it.

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Zombie Jon Snow said:

gig em 02 said:

Zombie Jon Snow said:

gig em 02 said:

Zombie Jon Snow said:

gig em 02 said:

aggieforester05 said:

texaglurkerguy said:

aggieforester05 said:

That_Guy_Moose said:

aggieforester05 said:

That_Guy_Moose said:

aggieforester05 said:

Malibu said:

barnyard1996 said:

Malibu said:

e=mc2 said:

If this thread is an indicator of a larger response, Biden is in deep doodoo.
It is not. This board is to the right of Texas as a whole, and to the nation at large. See what happens when I post that I will vote for Biden as evidence of the welcoming tone of this place for non-conforming views.
I agree with you about this forum. Therefore, I will remind you that Biden has an enthusiasm gap of about 25, nationally.

ETA, I guess that noise about Biden taking Texas is well...just noise.
People arent motivated to vote for Biden. They are very motivated to vote against Trump. Thats a meaningful enthusiasm metric.


People are also very motivated about voting against the nutcase **** bag Democrats. They are CRAZY and rational Americans know it.


Not saying you're wrong at all, but many people see it the other way.

The country is more divided than it has ever been.


Those people are brainwashed and wrong. The political right in this country are the adults in the room. There is nothing crazy about trying to uphold the constitution, capitalism, and American values. The left's caricature of the right is based on the dominance of radical left wing propaganda posing as objective news and academia. Trump's lack of tact had helped fuel that demonization, but that doesn't make Republican policies insane. Democrat's agenda straight from the horses mouth is insane, radical, and would be devastating to the US and the free world of it was ever seen to completion.


Broadly claiming opposing views are brainwashed and wrong is part of the problem. I implore you to please read the democratic platform this week. I guarantee that it will be far more moderate than you think it will be based on the above.

Democrat politicians have plenty of reason to believe the constitution and US power is under attack as well from the other side.

There are good policies and ideas on both sides.

The nation needs to come back to its senses and work for bipartisan solutions that bring out the best in all of America and not just one side or the other.
I have read the Democrat platform and it's nuts. The only reasonable idea they have is legalization of MJ.

There are no good ideas from the Democratic side of the aisle. I wish there were. The country needs two reasonable parties with different ideas that meet in the middle for bipartisan solutions.

We do not currently have that. We have a party that's been hijacked by radical Marxist and then a party who just shows enough opposition to that to stay in power.

Any bipartisan solutions with the current Democrat party means we are losing rights as Americans.

The Democrats desperately need a reformation that brings them back to classical liberalism.

Their voters are most certainly brainwashed too. I know that sounds like hyperbole, but the overwhelming majority of news sources, entertainment, academia, and corporate atmospheres are pumping out liberal propaganda 24/7. If they live outside of conservative areas, then they have to seek out conservative viewpoints or they only hear them through the filter of liberal biased sources that take them out of context. If the average urban liberal dismisses everything Trump says and/or Fox News says, where else would they encounter conservative opinions?
As a left-leaning urbanite, this is actually why I read this forum. Great resource for learning the conservative position on a number of topics. That said, if anything my time here has pushed me leftward, moreso than my consumption of mainstream news sources.


Why do you think that is? Does the opposition to your viewpoints make you more entrenched or does hearing the conservative viewpoints clarify the rightness of the liberal positions in your mind? The former would make more sense to me.
Some of the posters here, especially the true conservatives, come across as rude and heartless and are horrible advocates for conservative ideology. I wouldn't be surprised if every moderate/left leaning person that visited this forum found themselves being pushed further left by some of the most outspoken posters here.

You all know who they are. You just dont care, and they dont care, and an ideology (conservatism) that can only succeed and spread if individuals show compassion and kindness towards their neighbors will never be advanced by a place like this.


If you (and the other Libs posting on this thread) think WE are rude wait until your overlords get complete control.

You are in your own words being pushed further left by the rudeness of the right - toward something you seem to think is kind and compassionate. Meanwhile while we might be rude, but we are fighting against people that are actively working to


  • abolish the Constitution that provides basically all of your freedoms and protections from an oppresive government
  • disarm the populace which is the only defense against tyranny
  • limit speech to only approved speech
  • not just accepting but normalizing things like pedophilia
  • decriminalizing almost everything
  • not just reducing but completely defunding and removing police
  • "compassionately" allowing our country to be bankrupted by opening borders and giving benefits to anyone and everyone that has not contributed to it

You can be compassionate and kind all you want - in the system they would create you will be a mindless servant sheep to the system without rights, dignity or opportunity just like everyone else...but at least random people on the internet won't be rude to you any more because that's worse right?

Just do me a favor and remember this when you are equal to everyone, but have nothing except that which is given to you by the government you picked. I guess you'll feel better about yourself then.

Me...I'm going down fighting for liberty. It's worth fighting for and being a little rude if I have to.




You've proven my point. I've voted libertarian in the last 4 elections and am a huge proponent of small government.

Liberals have the freedom to act like jerks because liberalism relies on "forced kindness" (literally at gun point). Conservatism requires people to voluntarily take care of each other. So when you ignorantly make comments like you do then people that are compassionate and moderate or lean left are pushed further left because there is no way they will count on a jerk like you to help out your neighbor voluntarily.

You have lowered yourself to their level, and conservatism will never be advanced with the way that you treat people.

Really though, you are a troll that is just trying to make conservatives look bad, right? There is no way you actually think what you wrote is persuasive.

Persuasive???? PERSUASIVE????

LMAO. What makes you think I'm trying to persuade you of anything. Merely pointing out what you are supporting whether you are a Liberal or a libertarian because if you don't vote against that garbage you are voting for it.

It's not about how we treat you - or anyone else. Your mind is made up so that is irrelevant and it is just an excuse you use. If you can't see it for yourself there is no helping you anyway.



...says the guy named after a propaganda piece about climate change...

lalllollollolololololololllolol

wow...really great comeback. i'm just so so hurt cuz you made fun of my username.... which itself is mocking the fictional character of the fictional story you apparently are all bent about.

i'm sorry your house lost. it'll be ok.

lmao. you seriously think i'm being persuasive because of my username like that somehow affects peoples views on climate change.

you really see demons everywhere and everyone and everything offends you - sad but now it all makes sense.

take deep breaths and throw your vote away on a meaningless alternative candidate cuz it obviously makes you feel better.

i'm not even sure you get a participation trophy for that - but i'll make sure you get one if it makes you feel better.



This type of attitude will result in the death of the Republican party that is doing nothing to bring in new demographics or policy groups to the voting block.

When you look back in 20 years, I hope you regret that you and others like you lead to the death of conservatism and the ease of socialism's rise.

Lenin was a monster but equally responsible for his rise was the idiocy of Nicholas II and his complete lack of appeal.

Congrats on being Czar Nicholas!
aggieforester05
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BoydCrowder13 said:

Zombie Jon Snow said:

gig em 02 said:

Zombie Jon Snow said:

gig em 02 said:

Zombie Jon Snow said:

gig em 02 said:

aggieforester05 said:

texaglurkerguy said:

aggieforester05 said:

That_Guy_Moose said:

aggieforester05 said:

That_Guy_Moose said:

aggieforester05 said:

Malibu said:

barnyard1996 said:

Malibu said:

e=mc2 said:

If this thread is an indicator of a larger response, Biden is in deep doodoo.
It is not. This board is to the right of Texas as a whole, and to the nation at large. See what happens when I post that I will vote for Biden as evidence of the welcoming tone of this place for non-conforming views.
I agree with you about this forum. Therefore, I will remind you that Biden has an enthusiasm gap of about 25, nationally.

ETA, I guess that noise about Biden taking Texas is well...just noise.
People arent motivated to vote for Biden. They are very motivated to vote against Trump. Thats a meaningful enthusiasm metric.


People are also very motivated about voting against the nutcase **** bag Democrats. They are CRAZY and rational Americans know it.


Not saying you're wrong at all, but many people see it the other way.

The country is more divided than it has ever been.


Those people are brainwashed and wrong. The political right in this country are the adults in the room. There is nothing crazy about trying to uphold the constitution, capitalism, and American values. The left's caricature of the right is based on the dominance of radical left wing propaganda posing as objective news and academia. Trump's lack of tact had helped fuel that demonization, but that doesn't make Republican policies insane. Democrat's agenda straight from the horses mouth is insane, radical, and would be devastating to the US and the free world of it was ever seen to completion.


Broadly claiming opposing views are brainwashed and wrong is part of the problem. I implore you to please read the democratic platform this week. I guarantee that it will be far more moderate than you think it will be based on the above.

Democrat politicians have plenty of reason to believe the constitution and US power is under attack as well from the other side.

There are good policies and ideas on both sides.

The nation needs to come back to its senses and work for bipartisan solutions that bring out the best in all of America and not just one side or the other.
I have read the Democrat platform and it's nuts. The only reasonable idea they have is legalization of MJ.

There are no good ideas from the Democratic side of the aisle. I wish there were. The country needs two reasonable parties with different ideas that meet in the middle for bipartisan solutions.

We do not currently have that. We have a party that's been hijacked by radical Marxist and then a party who just shows enough opposition to that to stay in power.

Any bipartisan solutions with the current Democrat party means we are losing rights as Americans.

The Democrats desperately need a reformation that brings them back to classical liberalism.

Their voters are most certainly brainwashed too. I know that sounds like hyperbole, but the overwhelming majority of news sources, entertainment, academia, and corporate atmospheres are pumping out liberal propaganda 24/7. If they live outside of conservative areas, then they have to seek out conservative viewpoints or they only hear them through the filter of liberal biased sources that take them out of context. If the average urban liberal dismisses everything Trump says and/or Fox News says, where else would they encounter conservative opinions?
As a left-leaning urbanite, this is actually why I read this forum. Great resource for learning the conservative position on a number of topics. That said, if anything my time here has pushed me leftward, moreso than my consumption of mainstream news sources.


Why do you think that is? Does the opposition to your viewpoints make you more entrenched or does hearing the conservative viewpoints clarify the rightness of the liberal positions in your mind? The former would make more sense to me.
Some of the posters here, especially the true conservatives, come across as rude and heartless and are horrible advocates for conservative ideology. I wouldn't be surprised if every moderate/left leaning person that visited this forum found themselves being pushed further left by some of the most outspoken posters here.

You all know who they are. You just dont care, and they dont care, and an ideology (conservatism) that can only succeed and spread if individuals show compassion and kindness towards their neighbors will never be advanced by a place like this.


If you (and the other Libs posting on this thread) think WE are rude wait until your overlords get complete control.

You are in your own words being pushed further left by the rudeness of the right - toward something you seem to think is kind and compassionate. Meanwhile while we might be rude, but we are fighting against people that are actively working to


  • abolish the Constitution that provides basically all of your freedoms and protections from an oppresive government
  • disarm the populace which is the only defense against tyranny
  • limit speech to only approved speech
  • not just accepting but normalizing things like pedophilia
  • decriminalizing almost everything
  • not just reducing but completely defunding and removing police
  • "compassionately" allowing our country to be bankrupted by opening borders and giving benefits to anyone and everyone that has not contributed to it

You can be compassionate and kind all you want - in the system they would create you will be a mindless servant sheep to the system without rights, dignity or opportunity just like everyone else...but at least random people on the internet won't be rude to you any more because that's worse right?

Just do me a favor and remember this when you are equal to everyone, but have nothing except that which is given to you by the government you picked. I guess you'll feel better about yourself then.

Me...I'm going down fighting for liberty. It's worth fighting for and being a little rude if I have to.




You've proven my point. I've voted libertarian in the last 4 elections and am a huge proponent of small government.

Liberals have the freedom to act like jerks because liberalism relies on "forced kindness" (literally at gun point). Conservatism requires people to voluntarily take care of each other. So when you ignorantly make comments like you do then people that are compassionate and moderate or lean left are pushed further left because there is no way they will count on a jerk like you to help out your neighbor voluntarily.

You have lowered yourself to their level, and conservatism will never be advanced with the way that you treat people.

Really though, you are a troll that is just trying to make conservatives look bad, right? There is no way you actually think what you wrote is persuasive.

Persuasive???? PERSUASIVE????

LMAO. What makes you think I'm trying to persuade you of anything. Merely pointing out what you are supporting whether you are a Liberal or a libertarian because if you don't vote against that garbage you are voting for it.

It's not about how we treat you - or anyone else. Your mind is made up so that is irrelevant and it is just an excuse you use. If you can't see it for yourself there is no helping you anyway.



...says the guy named after a propaganda piece about climate change...

lalllollollolololololololllolol

wow...really great comeback. i'm just so so hurt cuz you made fun of my username.... which itself is mocking the fictional character of the fictional story you apparently are all bent about.

i'm sorry your house lost. it'll be ok.

lmao. you seriously think i'm being persuasive because of my username like that somehow affects peoples views on climate change.

you really see demons everywhere and everyone and everything offends you - sad but now it all makes sense.

take deep breaths and throw your vote away on a meaningless alternative candidate cuz it obviously makes you feel better.

i'm not even sure you get a participation trophy for that - but i'll make sure you get one if it makes you feel better.



This type of attitude will result in the death of the Republican party that is doing nothing to bring in new demographics or policy groups to the voting block.

When you look back in 20 years, I hope you regret that you and others like you lead to the death of conservatism and the ease of socialism's rise.

Lenin was a monster but equally responsible for his rise was the idiocy of Nicholas II and his complete lack of appeal.

Congrats on being Czar Nicholas!


Meanwhile liberals are Lenin and will be responsible for the downfall of this country. You can't bring in new demographics as conservatives when those demographics have endured decades of Marxist indoctrination and brainwashed into believing conservatives are racist. You'd just be moving conservatism towards Marxism. Eff that! It's going to have to be the reasonable liberals that take a stand against Marxist creep if we want to survive, especially considering the fact that they control the vast majority of information sources. All conservatives can do is call them out for falling for the Marxist ideals professed by modern progressives and the race baiting BS that they all seem to have fallen for.
BoydCrowder13
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aggieforester05 said:

BoydCrowder13 said:

Zombie Jon Snow said:

gig em 02 said:

Zombie Jon Snow said:

gig em 02 said:

Zombie Jon Snow said:

gig em 02 said:

aggieforester05 said:

texaglurkerguy said:

aggieforester05 said:

That_Guy_Moose said:

aggieforester05 said:

That_Guy_Moose said:

aggieforester05 said:

Malibu said:

barnyard1996 said:

Malibu said:

e=mc2 said:

If this thread is an indicator of a larger response, Biden is in deep doodoo.
It is not. This board is to the right of Texas as a whole, and to the nation at large. See what happens when I post that I will vote for Biden as evidence of the welcoming tone of this place for non-conforming views.
I agree with you about this forum. Therefore, I will remind you that Biden has an enthusiasm gap of about 25, nationally.

ETA, I guess that noise about Biden taking Texas is well...just noise.
People arent motivated to vote for Biden. They are very motivated to vote against Trump. Thats a meaningful enthusiasm metric.


People are also very motivated about voting against the nutcase **** bag Democrats. They are CRAZY and rational Americans know it.


Not saying you're wrong at all, but many people see it the other way.

The country is more divided than it has ever been.


Those people are brainwashed and wrong. The political right in this country are the adults in the room. There is nothing crazy about trying to uphold the constitution, capitalism, and American values. The left's caricature of the right is based on the dominance of radical left wing propaganda posing as objective news and academia. Trump's lack of tact had helped fuel that demonization, but that doesn't make Republican policies insane. Democrat's agenda straight from the horses mouth is insane, radical, and would be devastating to the US and the free world of it was ever seen to completion.


Broadly claiming opposing views are brainwashed and wrong is part of the problem. I implore you to please read the democratic platform this week. I guarantee that it will be far more moderate than you think it will be based on the above.

Democrat politicians have plenty of reason to believe the constitution and US power is under attack as well from the other side.

There are good policies and ideas on both sides.

The nation needs to come back to its senses and work for bipartisan solutions that bring out the best in all of America and not just one side or the other.
I have read the Democrat platform and it's nuts. The only reasonable idea they have is legalization of MJ.

There are no good ideas from the Democratic side of the aisle. I wish there were. The country needs two reasonable parties with different ideas that meet in the middle for bipartisan solutions.

We do not currently have that. We have a party that's been hijacked by radical Marxist and then a party who just shows enough opposition to that to stay in power.

Any bipartisan solutions with the current Democrat party means we are losing rights as Americans.

The Democrats desperately need a reformation that brings them back to classical liberalism.

Their voters are most certainly brainwashed too. I know that sounds like hyperbole, but the overwhelming majority of news sources, entertainment, academia, and corporate atmospheres are pumping out liberal propaganda 24/7. If they live outside of conservative areas, then they have to seek out conservative viewpoints or they only hear them through the filter of liberal biased sources that take them out of context. If the average urban liberal dismisses everything Trump says and/or Fox News says, where else would they encounter conservative opinions?
As a left-leaning urbanite, this is actually why I read this forum. Great resource for learning the conservative position on a number of topics. That said, if anything my time here has pushed me leftward, moreso than my consumption of mainstream news sources.


Why do you think that is? Does the opposition to your viewpoints make you more entrenched or does hearing the conservative viewpoints clarify the rightness of the liberal positions in your mind? The former would make more sense to me.
Some of the posters here, especially the true conservatives, come across as rude and heartless and are horrible advocates for conservative ideology. I wouldn't be surprised if every moderate/left leaning person that visited this forum found themselves being pushed further left by some of the most outspoken posters here.

You all know who they are. You just dont care, and they dont care, and an ideology (conservatism) that can only succeed and spread if individuals show compassion and kindness towards their neighbors will never be advanced by a place like this.


If you (and the other Libs posting on this thread) think WE are rude wait until your overlords get complete control.

You are in your own words being pushed further left by the rudeness of the right - toward something you seem to think is kind and compassionate. Meanwhile while we might be rude, but we are fighting against people that are actively working to


  • abolish the Constitution that provides basically all of your freedoms and protections from an oppresive government
  • disarm the populace which is the only defense against tyranny
  • limit speech to only approved speech
  • not just accepting but normalizing things like pedophilia
  • decriminalizing almost everything
  • not just reducing but completely defunding and removing police
  • "compassionately" allowing our country to be bankrupted by opening borders and giving benefits to anyone and everyone that has not contributed to it

You can be compassionate and kind all you want - in the system they would create you will be a mindless servant sheep to the system without rights, dignity or opportunity just like everyone else...but at least random people on the internet won't be rude to you any more because that's worse right?

Just do me a favor and remember this when you are equal to everyone, but have nothing except that which is given to you by the government you picked. I guess you'll feel better about yourself then.

Me...I'm going down fighting for liberty. It's worth fighting for and being a little rude if I have to.




You've proven my point. I've voted libertarian in the last 4 elections and am a huge proponent of small government.

Liberals have the freedom to act like jerks because liberalism relies on "forced kindness" (literally at gun point). Conservatism requires people to voluntarily take care of each other. So when you ignorantly make comments like you do then people that are compassionate and moderate or lean left are pushed further left because there is no way they will count on a jerk like you to help out your neighbor voluntarily.

You have lowered yourself to their level, and conservatism will never be advanced with the way that you treat people.

Really though, you are a troll that is just trying to make conservatives look bad, right? There is no way you actually think what you wrote is persuasive.

Persuasive???? PERSUASIVE????

LMAO. What makes you think I'm trying to persuade you of anything. Merely pointing out what you are supporting whether you are a Liberal or a libertarian because if you don't vote against that garbage you are voting for it.

It's not about how we treat you - or anyone else. Your mind is made up so that is irrelevant and it is just an excuse you use. If you can't see it for yourself there is no helping you anyway.



...says the guy named after a propaganda piece about climate change...

lalllollollolololololololllolol

wow...really great comeback. i'm just so so hurt cuz you made fun of my username.... which itself is mocking the fictional character of the fictional story you apparently are all bent about.

i'm sorry your house lost. it'll be ok.

lmao. you seriously think i'm being persuasive because of my username like that somehow affects peoples views on climate change.

you really see demons everywhere and everyone and everything offends you - sad but now it all makes sense.

take deep breaths and throw your vote away on a meaningless alternative candidate cuz it obviously makes you feel better.

i'm not even sure you get a participation trophy for that - but i'll make sure you get one if it makes you feel better.



This type of attitude will result in the death of the Republican party that is doing nothing to bring in new demographics or policy groups to the voting block.

When you look back in 20 years, I hope you regret that you and others like you lead to the death of conservatism and the ease of socialism's rise.

Lenin was a monster but equally responsible for his rise was the idiocy of Nicholas II and his complete lack of appeal.

Congrats on being Czar Nicholas!


Meanwhile liberals are Lenin and will be responsible for the downfall of this country. You can't bring in new demographics as conservatives when those demographics have endured decades of Marxist indoctrination and brainwashed into believing conservatives are racist. You'd just be moving conservatism towards Marxism. Eff that! It's going to have to be the reasonable liberals that take a stand against Marxist creep if we want to survive, especially considering the fact that they control the vast majority of information sources. All conservatives can do is call them out for falling for the Marxist ideals professed by modern progressives and the race baiting BS that they all seem to have fallen for.
They could be called out in better ways. Most conservatives do a terrible job at educating others.

We have to do more than cite Fox News or the Book of Matthew to get through to others.

Lumping every democratic voter in as a Marxist acolyte doesn't bring over one new vote. Same mistake Clinton made with the deplorables comment.
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The problem with this statement is how can you tell the difference between a non-Marxist Democrat and a Marxist Democrat when the Democrat votes of both result in the same outcome, that being hard left outright Marxists or sympathizers. That's all that's left of Democrat leadership. To me, any chance of a moderate Democrat party was over when they ousted Joe Lieberman because of his support for Israel during the war.

To the extent that there are non-Marxist democrat voters out there, it is up to them to decide that their party reflects their ideology. The way to define your party is through the primary elections. The Democrat party leadership has illustrated quite well that they don't give a crap about what the Democrat voter wants as illustrated by the fact that they shafted Bernie TWICE to put in their candidate of choice. Add to that the fact that they propped up Biden knowing that the real President will be selected as the VP choice with ZERO concern for what Democrat voters might think. You common democrat voters are only going to be useful to the party leadership in the general election for installing THEIR selection in the White House.

Contrast that to the GOP in 2016 where the Republican voters, with full effect, told the leadership to shove their preferred candidates up the wazoo and elected a complete outsider to burn down the establishments of BOTH parties and the corrupt culture they presided over.

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Adding to this thought, the radicals are in Dem leadership.

Obama threatened federal school money unless biological males were allowed to shower and change with school-aged girls.

Biden is agreeing to move funding away from police and saying they don't need military equipment.

Northam is Gov of VA and in favor of birthday abortions and infanticide.

AOC and "the squad" are congresspersons.

This is why voter-level Dems are guilty of their radicals' sins.
A & M, GIVE US ROOM!

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If this thread is an indicator of a larger response, Biden is in deep doodoo.
It is not. This board is to the right of Texas as a whole, and to the nation at large. See what happens when I post that I will vote for Biden as evidence of the welcoming tone of this place for non-conforming views.
I agree with you about this forum. Therefore, I will remind you that Biden has an enthusiasm gap of about 25, nationally.

ETA, I guess that noise about Biden taking Texas is well...just noise.
People arent motivated to vote for Biden. They are very motivated to vote against Trump. Thats a meaningful enthusiasm metric.


People are also very motivated about voting against the nutcase **** bag Democrats. They are CRAZY and rational Americans know it.


Not saying you're wrong at all, but many people see it the other way.

The country is more divided than it has ever been.


Those people are brainwashed and wrong. The political right in this country are the adults in the room. There is nothing crazy about trying to uphold the constitution, capitalism, and American values. The left's caricature of the right is based on the dominance of radical left wing propaganda posing as objective news and academia. Trump's lack of tact had helped fuel that demonization, but that doesn't make Republican policies insane. Democrat's agenda straight from the horses mouth is insane, radical, and would be devastating to the US and the free world of it was ever seen to completion.


Broadly claiming opposing views are brainwashed and wrong is part of the problem. I implore you to please read the democratic platform this week. I guarantee that it will be far more moderate than you think it will be based on the above.

Democrat politicians have plenty of reason to believe the constitution and US power is under attack as well from the other side.

There are good policies and ideas on both sides.

The nation needs to come back to its senses and work for bipartisan solutions that bring out the best in all of America and not just one side or the other.
I have read the Democrat platform and it's nuts. The only reasonable idea they have is legalization of MJ.

There are no good ideas from the Democratic side of the aisle. I wish there were. The country needs two reasonable parties with different ideas that meet in the middle for bipartisan solutions.

We do not currently have that. We have a party that's been hijacked by radical Marxist and then a party who just shows enough opposition to that to stay in power.

Any bipartisan solutions with the current Democrat party means we are losing rights as Americans.

The Democrats desperately need a reformation that brings them back to classical liberalism.

Their voters are most certainly brainwashed too. I know that sounds like hyperbole, but the overwhelming majority of news sources, entertainment, academia, and corporate atmospheres are pumping out liberal propaganda 24/7. If they live outside of conservative areas, then they have to seek out conservative viewpoints or they only hear them through the filter of liberal biased sources that take them out of context. If the average urban liberal dismisses everything Trump says and/or Fox News says, where else would they encounter conservative opinions?
As a left-leaning urbanite, this is actually why I read this forum. Great resource for learning the conservative position on a number of topics. That said, if anything my time here has pushed me leftward, moreso than my consumption of mainstream news sources.


Why do you think that is? Does the opposition to your viewpoints make you more entrenched or does hearing the conservative viewpoints clarify the rightness of the liberal positions in your mind? The former would make more sense to me.
Some of the posters here, especially the true conservatives, come across as rude and heartless and are horrible advocates for conservative ideology. I wouldn't be surprised if every moderate/left leaning person that visited this forum found themselves being pushed further left by some of the most outspoken posters here.

You all know who they are. You just dont care, and they dont care, and an ideology (conservatism) that can only succeed and spread if individuals show compassion and kindness towards their neighbors will never be advanced by a place like this.


If you (and the other Libs posting on this thread) think WE are rude wait until your overlords get complete control.

You are in your own words being pushed further left by the rudeness of the right - toward something you seem to think is kind and compassionate. Meanwhile while we might be rude, but we are fighting against people that are actively working to


  • abolish the Constitution that provides basically all of your freedoms and protections from an oppresive government
  • disarm the populace which is the only defense against tyranny
  • limit speech to only approved speech
  • not just accepting but normalizing things like pedophilia
  • decriminalizing almost everything
  • not just reducing but completely defunding and removing police
  • "compassionately" allowing our country to be bankrupted by opening borders and giving benefits to anyone and everyone that has not contributed to it

You can be compassionate and kind all you want - in the system they would create you will be a mindless servant sheep to the system without rights, dignity or opportunity just like everyone else...but at least random people on the internet won't be rude to you any more because that's worse right?

Just do me a favor and remember this when you are equal to everyone, but have nothing except that which is given to you by the government you picked. I guess you'll feel better about yourself then.

Me...I'm going down fighting for liberty. It's worth fighting for and being a little rude if I have to.




You've proven my point. I've voted libertarian in the last 4 elections and am a huge proponent of small government.

Liberals have the freedom to act like jerks because liberalism relies on "forced kindness" (literally at gun point). Conservatism requires people to voluntarily take care of each other. So when you ignorantly make comments like you do then people that are compassionate and moderate or lean left are pushed further left because there is no way they will count on a jerk like you to help out your neighbor voluntarily.

You have lowered yourself to their level, and conservatism will never be advanced with the way that you treat people.

Really though, you are a troll that is just trying to make conservatives look bad, right? There is no way you actually think what you wrote is persuasive.

Persuasive???? PERSUASIVE????

LMAO. What makes you think I'm trying to persuade you of anything. Merely pointing out what you are supporting whether you are a Liberal or a libertarian because if you don't vote against that garbage you are voting for it.

It's not about how we treat you - or anyone else. Your mind is made up so that is irrelevant and it is just an excuse you use. If you can't see it for yourself there is no helping you anyway.



...says the guy named after a propaganda piece about climate change...

lalllollollolololololololllolol

wow...really great comeback. i'm just so so hurt cuz you made fun of my username.... which itself is mocking the fictional character of the fictional story you apparently are all bent about.

i'm sorry your house lost. it'll be ok.

lmao. you seriously think i'm being persuasive because of my username like that somehow affects peoples views on climate change.

you really see demons everywhere and everyone and everything offends you - sad but now it all makes sense.

take deep breaths and throw your vote away on a meaningless alternative candidate cuz it obviously makes you feel better.

i'm not even sure you get a participation trophy for that - but i'll make sure you get one if it makes you feel better.



This type of attitude will result in the death of the Republican party that is doing nothing to bring in new demographics or policy groups to the voting block.

When you look back in 20 years, I hope you regret that you and others like you lead to the death of conservatism and the ease of socialism's rise.

Lenin was a monster but equally responsible for his rise was the idiocy of Nicholas II and his complete lack of appeal.

Congrats on being Czar Nicholas!


Meanwhile liberals are Lenin and will be responsible for the downfall of this country. You can't bring in new demographics as conservatives when those demographics have endured decades of Marxist indoctrination and brainwashed into believing conservatives are racist. You'd just be moving conservatism towards Marxism. Eff that! It's going to have to be the reasonable liberals that take a stand against Marxist creep if we want to survive, especially considering the fact that they control the vast majority of information sources. All conservatives can do is call them out for falling for the Marxist ideals professed by modern progressives and the race baiting BS that they all seem to have fallen for.
They could be called out in better ways. Most conservatives do a terrible job at educating others.

We have to do more than cite Fox News or the Book of Matthew to get through to others.

Lumping every democratic voter in as a Marxist acolyte doesn't bring over one new vote. Same mistake Clinton made with the deplorables comment.


I agree that we should be doing a better job of that; however, the complexity of doing that is greatly compounded by the dominance of liberal thought in all forms of media (except maybe radio) and academia. That is further exacerbated by the tendency of those sources to dismiss conservative viewpoints as those of the "uneducated" and "racist". It's easy to say we should do a better job of that but also very difficult to actually get people to listen.



I prefer no to quote sources like Fox News because they are automatically dismissed as conservative biased and rightfully so, even if they are not always wrong. I do the same to CNN, MSNBC, CBS, ABC, Huffpo, NY Times, WAPO, Vox, etc, etc, etc. It's really hard for any source that isn't hard left to gain enough respect within liberal ranks to be even considered moderate. So I'm not sure how to go about that other than finding charismatic young people that are in touch with those communities to spread the word via social media. That is already happening, but often falls on deaf ears.



I'm not lumping all Democrat voters in as Marxists, but I'm pretty sure you meant conservatives at large by that comments. I'm saying it's time for the liberals who are not Marxist to reject the ones who are, because they are an internal destructive force the likes of which this country has not seen since the civil war. The Democrat party itself is getting on board with the Marxists and that's making things worse because the non Marxist liberals keep voting for them out of a hatred of Republicans. They need to make much better choices in the primaries and quit electing far left idiots. The current Democrat party has left the rational liberals behind. Time for a reformation! A non Marxist who votes for Marxists is not much better than an actual Marxist.

The Marxist ideology is responsible for the deaths of hundreds of millions, numbers that would make Hitler cringe, yet we have Americans and Democrat politicians that want that here. Hard to get through to people that are that hard headed. When nuance doesn't work you are left with blunt accusations of idiocy and ultimately telling them to pull their head out of the sand and quit voting for a party that supports that nation killing ideology.

They also need to stop the tiresome race baiting and actually try to work through those issues. It seems to me that they only want to exploit racial issues for political gain. Then they try to normalize anti white racism. That's both disgusting and pathetic!

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BoydCrowder13 said:

Zombie Jon Snow said:

gig em 02 said:

Zombie Jon Snow said:

gig em 02 said:

Zombie Jon Snow said:

gig em 02 said:

aggieforester05 said:

texaglurkerguy said:

aggieforester05 said:

That_Guy_Moose said:

aggieforester05 said:

That_Guy_Moose said:

aggieforester05 said:

Malibu said:

barnyard1996 said:

Malibu said:

e=mc2 said:

If this thread is an indicator of a larger response, Biden is in deep doodoo.
It is not. This board is to the right of Texas as a whole, and to the nation at large. See what happens when I post that I will vote for Biden as evidence of the welcoming tone of this place for non-conforming views.
I agree with you about this forum. Therefore, I will remind you that Biden has an enthusiasm gap of about 25, nationally.

ETA, I guess that noise about Biden taking Texas is well...just noise.
People arent motivated to vote for Biden. They are very motivated to vote against Trump. Thats a meaningful enthusiasm metric.


People are also very motivated about voting against the nutcase **** bag Democrats. They are CRAZY and rational Americans know it.


Not saying you're wrong at all, but many people see it the other way.

The country is more divided than it has ever been.


Those people are brainwashed and wrong. The political right in this country are the adults in the room. There is nothing crazy about trying to uphold the constitution, capitalism, and American values. The left's caricature of the right is based on the dominance of radical left wing propaganda posing as objective news and academia. Trump's lack of tact had helped fuel that demonization, but that doesn't make Republican policies insane. Democrat's agenda straight from the horses mouth is insane, radical, and would be devastating to the US and the free world of it was ever seen to completion.


Broadly claiming opposing views are brainwashed and wrong is part of the problem. I implore you to please read the democratic platform this week. I guarantee that it will be far more moderate than you think it will be based on the above.

Democrat politicians have plenty of reason to believe the constitution and US power is under attack as well from the other side.

There are good policies and ideas on both sides.

The nation needs to come back to its senses and work for bipartisan solutions that bring out the best in all of America and not just one side or the other.
I have read the Democrat platform and it's nuts. The only reasonable idea they have is legalization of MJ.

There are no good ideas from the Democratic side of the aisle. I wish there were. The country needs two reasonable parties with different ideas that meet in the middle for bipartisan solutions.

We do not currently have that. We have a party that's been hijacked by radical Marxist and then a party who just shows enough opposition to that to stay in power.

Any bipartisan solutions with the current Democrat party means we are losing rights as Americans.

The Democrats desperately need a reformation that brings them back to classical liberalism.

Their voters are most certainly brainwashed too. I know that sounds like hyperbole, but the overwhelming majority of news sources, entertainment, academia, and corporate atmospheres are pumping out liberal propaganda 24/7. If they live outside of conservative areas, then they have to seek out conservative viewpoints or they only hear them through the filter of liberal biased sources that take them out of context. If the average urban liberal dismisses everything Trump says and/or Fox News says, where else would they encounter conservative opinions?
As a left-leaning urbanite, this is actually why I read this forum. Great resource for learning the conservative position on a number of topics. That said, if anything my time here has pushed me leftward, moreso than my consumption of mainstream news sources.


Why do you think that is? Does the opposition to your viewpoints make you more entrenched or does hearing the conservative viewpoints clarify the rightness of the liberal positions in your mind? The former would make more sense to me.
Some of the posters here, especially the true conservatives, come across as rude and heartless and are horrible advocates for conservative ideology. I wouldn't be surprised if every moderate/left leaning person that visited this forum found themselves being pushed further left by some of the most outspoken posters here.

You all know who they are. You just dont care, and they dont care, and an ideology (conservatism) that can only succeed and spread if individuals show compassion and kindness towards their neighbors will never be advanced by a place like this.


If you (and the other Libs posting on this thread) think WE are rude wait until your overlords get complete control.

You are in your own words being pushed further left by the rudeness of the right - toward something you seem to think is kind and compassionate. Meanwhile while we might be rude, but we are fighting against people that are actively working to


  • abolish the Constitution that provides basically all of your freedoms and protections from an oppresive government
  • disarm the populace which is the only defense against tyranny
  • limit speech to only approved speech
  • not just accepting but normalizing things like pedophilia
  • decriminalizing almost everything
  • not just reducing but completely defunding and removing police
  • "compassionately" allowing our country to be bankrupted by opening borders and giving benefits to anyone and everyone that has not contributed to it

You can be compassionate and kind all you want - in the system they would create you will be a mindless servant sheep to the system without rights, dignity or opportunity just like everyone else...but at least random people on the internet won't be rude to you any more because that's worse right?

Just do me a favor and remember this when you are equal to everyone, but have nothing except that which is given to you by the government you picked. I guess you'll feel better about yourself then.

Me...I'm going down fighting for liberty. It's worth fighting for and being a little rude if I have to.




You've proven my point. I've voted libertarian in the last 4 elections and am a huge proponent of small government.

Liberals have the freedom to act like jerks because liberalism relies on "forced kindness" (literally at gun point). Conservatism requires people to voluntarily take care of each other. So when you ignorantly make comments like you do then people that are compassionate and moderate or lean left are pushed further left because there is no way they will count on a jerk like you to help out your neighbor voluntarily.

You have lowered yourself to their level, and conservatism will never be advanced with the way that you treat people.

Really though, you are a troll that is just trying to make conservatives look bad, right? There is no way you actually think what you wrote is persuasive.

Persuasive???? PERSUASIVE????

LMAO. What makes you think I'm trying to persuade you of anything. Merely pointing out what you are supporting whether you are a Liberal or a libertarian because if you don't vote against that garbage you are voting for it.

It's not about how we treat you - or anyone else. Your mind is made up so that is irrelevant and it is just an excuse you use. If you can't see it for yourself there is no helping you anyway.



...says the guy named after a propaganda piece about climate change...

lalllollollolololololololllolol

wow...really great comeback. i'm just so so hurt cuz you made fun of my username.... which itself is mocking the fictional character of the fictional story you apparently are all bent about.

i'm sorry your house lost. it'll be ok.

lmao. you seriously think i'm being persuasive because of my username like that somehow affects peoples views on climate change.

you really see demons everywhere and everyone and everything offends you - sad but now it all makes sense.

take deep breaths and throw your vote away on a meaningless alternative candidate cuz it obviously makes you feel better.

i'm not even sure you get a participation trophy for that - but i'll make sure you get one if it makes you feel better.



This type of attitude will result in the death of the Republican party that is doing nothing to bring in new demographics or policy groups to the voting block.

When you look back in 20 years, I hope you regret that you and others like you lead to the death of conservatism and the ease of socialism's rise.

Lenin was a monster but equally responsible for his rise was the idiocy of Nicholas II and his complete lack of appeal.

Congrats on being Czar Nicholas!

This is rich and getting better by the minute.

So my "attitude" about a supposed insult about my username which is a joke about a fictional character on a fictional show that someone else thinks is a narrative about climate change.......

THAT will result in the death of the Republican party?!?!?!?!?!?!
and
THAT makes me Czar Nicholas!!!!!!

LMAO you guys just keeping getting more and more ridiculous.

"OH the HUGE MANATEES!!!! He's mocking my stupidity it's the end of the world!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
-- you

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I agree that we should be doing a better job of that; however, the complexity of doing that is greatly compounded by the dominance of liberal thought in all forms of media (except maybe radio) and academia. That is further exacerbated by the tendency of those sources to dismiss conservative viewpoints as those of the "uneducated" and "racist". It's easy to say we should do a better job of that but also very difficult to actually get people to listen.
I shudder to think how inadequate the ability to teach the conservative viewpoint would be if Rush had not come along and establish an entire 'new' medium for getting the word out. Not enough statues can be built for that man.
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aggieforester05 said:

Are you guys/gals voting for Democrats at all concerned about their intentional stoking of racial tensions to motivate their base? How has setting race relations back 50 years improved the country?


Bumping this question as it hasn't been answered.
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scd88 said:

aggieforester05 said:

Are you guys/gals voting for Democrats at all concerned about their intentional stoking of racial tensions to motivate their base? How has setting race relations back 50 years improved the country?


Bumping this question as it hasn't been answered.

They've proven they are fine with that since 2008 with Obama. He did it for 8 years without any pushback from the left.
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Zombie Jon Snow said:

scd88 said:

aggieforester05 said:

Are you guys/gals voting for Democrats at all concerned about their intentional stoking of racial tensions to motivate their base? How has setting race relations back 50 years improved the country?


Bumping this question as it hasn't been answered.

They've proven they are fine with that since 2008 with Obama. He did it for 8 years without any pushback from the left.


Yep, not hard to justify if it's effective and you have no moral or ethical boundaries. They don't really care about racism more so than the racism boogeyman is an effective tool to win elections and implement their radical agenda.
 
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