I'm curious how many people here (and nationally) are like me. My wife and I were big Cruz supporters in 2016 and on principal voted 3rd party in the general election. I thought Trump would be a de facto big spending democrat. Now, it was an easy vote b/c we knew Hillary had no chance to win Texas.

I'm not happy with everything Trump has done (see debt, spending) but it's been more good than bad. In 2020 the thought of a Biden presidency is downright scary, so we'll be voting Trump.

If nothing else, Trump has a loyal base. Maybe as loyal as obama's. Certainly more loyal than W's. I just can't imagine many Trump '16 voters switching to Biden '20.

Likewise, at the end of the day, dems vote for dems. Anyone who voted Hillary is certainly voting for Biden (maybe twice).

So I believe 2020 comes down to:

1) Election integrity. Add in widespread mail-in voting and forget it. Biden wins easily.

2) Influx of new, young voters in their first election. I have no idea how large this number is, but an increase in young voters certainly favors democrats and their "free everything" platform.

3) How many former "never Trumpers" like myself will show up for Trump?

TL;DR Anyone here switching their vote?

NoahAg said:

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I'm curious how many people here (and nationally) are like me. My wife and I were big Cruz supporters in 2016 and on principal voted 3rd party in the general election.

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I went from anti-HRC to pro-Trump. Thanks for the 4-year fit a**holes! Nice job of making Americans stand up!

Yes. I will not vote for Ted Cruz in 2020.

Didn't vote for Trump in 2016. Seriously considering giving him a "spite" vote in 2020 simply because I'm sick and tired of democrats telling me I ought to be locked in my house and called a racist.

Write-in vote to Trump.

Just call it an anti-collectivist vote.

Didn't vote trump in 2016 but will be in 2020

TRM said:

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Write-in vote to Trump.

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He's on the ballot, why would you write him in?

Good decision process for 2016.

• Biden and whomever his VP might be are absolutely scary.
• Trump has said a ton of stupid stuff but, he hasn't really done anything terrible other than debt which was encouraged by Congress.

Similar boat as you. It was the first election I could vote in and didn't want my first vote to go to someone I deemed "un-presidential". I admit I would've voted for Trump had I lived in a battle ground state because I hate Hillary, but I didn't see the point in wasting my time voting third party when Texas was solidly going to go red anyway.

Now, I still think Trump is an ass, and if he would just put the phone down and stop tweeting he'd have save himself a lot of trouble, but I'd vote for him any day over what the Democrats have created in their party.

AOC's Green New Deal is the singular biggest threat to American security/global superiority and the fact that a large faction of the Democratic Party supports it is mind blowing. I can't believe my industry is supposed to be removed from existence even though it creates carbon free electricity 24/7. The Green New Deal being passed is the ultimate CCP wetdream. Dems can say Biden doesn't support it but he has said AOC would be on his climate change committee and that's all I need to know about how bat**** crazy it will be.

Voted Libertarian in 16. Trump all the way in 20

Voted trump in 2016 and if they push mail in voting I will vote Trump twice in 2020.

voted 3rd party in 2016. Can't stand the LP VP pick.

I have no idea who I'm voting for, but it sure won't be Trump or Biden.

Trump in 2016, Trump in 2020. I have never voted for a Democrat in any state or national election, and I don't see that ever changing.

Hesitantly voted for Trump in 2016.

Will crawl over broken glass dipped in dog sh** and corona virus to vote for Trump in 2020.

blindey said:

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Didn't vote for Trump in 2016. Seriously considering giving him a "spite" vote in 2020 simply because I'm sick and tired of democrats telling me I ought to be locked in my house and called a racist.

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Same here. Libertarian who doesn't like Trump's personality or spending, but realizing he is perfect for exposing the media's dishonest reporting. If anyone is working to hack the election in 2016/20, it's the US press. I also realize Biden is only the nom to defend against the Durham indictments coming, and voting for Trump ensures that our country deals with the worst gov abuse of power since Lincoln. (ie Brennan, Comey, McCabe, Strzok, Ohr, Susan Rice etc.)

Voted Cruz in the primary and held my nose for Trump in the general. Will be voting enthusiastically for Trump in 2020.

Because:

I voted against her in 2016


I'm voting for Trump in 2020

Still Libertarian at the top. Hoped to switch back to the Democrats, but can't bring myself to vote Biden and the party is veering too far left fiscally.

I'd not vote at all before casting a ballot for Trump, but it's not like he's going to do anything catastrophic for me personally as a white, straight, male attorney. For the nation as a whole that's a different matter. JMO and no need to try to change it on this thread.

I voted 3rd party in 2016.

I will happily vote Trump this year. First day of early voting...I'm there.

No question.

PWestAg18 said:

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Similar boat as you. It was the first election I could vote in and didn't want my first vote to go to someone I deemed "un-presidential". I admit I would've voted for Trump had I lived in a battle ground state because I hate Hillary, but I didn't see the point in wasting my time voting third party when Texas was solidly going to go red anyway.

Now, I still think Trump is an ass, and if he would just put the phone down and stop tweeting he'd have save himself a lot of trouble, but I'd vote for him any day over what the Democrats have created in their party.

AOC's Green New Deal is the singular biggest threat to American security/global superiority and the fact that a large faction of the Democratic Party supports it is mind blowing. I can't believe my industry is supposed to be removed from existence even though it creates carbon free electricity 24/7. The Green New Deal being passed is the ultimate CCP wetdream. Dems can say Biden doesn't support it but he has said AOC would be on his climate change committee and that's all I need to know about how bat**** crazy it will be.

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All true.

This is an easy election. And remember the Media moguls pushing the Democrat narrative 24/7 are all rich and impervious to any of those forces of chaos and decline, so its not like they have anything to say about real people's situations in such a Green New Deal deprviation.

Here's the thing, as one put it so crassly the other day --- Trump's a New Yorker, a classic kind of a-hole NY style that is both liked or hated depending on how touchy you are. But they get things done. That is what he is. The `concerned moderate' variety on the right have accomplished close to nothing since Reagan.

Trump may be an a-hole a times, but he is generally being an a-hole toward greater jackanapes and usually unaccountable people, so fine. He's a New Yorker by minting.

Not worth throwing out all this good in exchange for re-branded communism.

Voted Trump in 2016 with lukewarm enthusiasm. Really just voting against hilldawg. Liked Rubio and Cruz better during the primaries.

Now will enthusiastically vote trump and donate $.

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TRM said:

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Write-in vote to Trump.

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He's on the ballot, why would you write him in?

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Write-in candidate in 2016 to Trump 2020.

Tom Kazansky 2012 said:

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Didn't vote trump in 2016 but will be in 2020

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Voted Rubio in the primary (regretting this) and didn't vote trump in 2016. Will vote Trump in 2020.

Voted by write in since 2008. All in for Trump. He's far from perfect but I have 0 doubt he loves this country.

I voted for Gary Johnson in 2016 as a never Trumper. I will now happily vote for Joe Biden.

Similar situation here. I knew Hillary wouldn't win Texas so I voted Libertarian as a protest. Will definitely be voting Trump this time.

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TRM said:

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Write-in vote to Trump.

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He's on the ballot, why would you write him in?

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Write-in candidate in 2016 to Trump 2020.

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Well the question was anyone changing their vote, so your answer wasn't really clear.

Write in vote in 2016, Trump 2020 would've been clearer.


Who did you write in, in 2016?

Malibu said:

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I voted for Gary Johnson in 2016 as a never Trumper. I will now happily vote for Joe Biden.

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So still voting for losers. At least you're consistent.

You're now voting for a man who has full-on dementia.

And you're proud of it.

#TDS

Faustus said:

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Still Libertarian at the top. Hoped to switch back to the Democrats, but can't bring myself to vote Biden and the party is veering too far left fiscally.

I'd not vote at all before casting a ballot for Trump, but it's not like he's going to do anything catastrophic for me personally as a white, straight, male attorney. For the nation as a whole that's a different matter. JMO and no need to try to change it on this thread.

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That's a thoughtful take. Libertarians need to realize that unfortunately all their high-detail and extremely `political process' arguments about the 16th and especially the obscure 17th Amendment are wasted on a `swipe left' generation. They need to find a ridiculously charismatic and good talker candidate to run. Substance has nothing to do with the products of the present American education system, and the more nuanced aspects of the Libertarian arguments require that kind of more incisive learning.

Maybe even a name change to `Federalist Party' might work better, and draw attention to the Constitutional aspects most eroded.

I voted for Johnson in '16 but I'll vote for Trump this time.

Didn't vote at all in 2016 because I disliked both candidates, and it was the first time since 1982 that I failed to vote. Definitely voting Trump this go around. I cannot stand what the left is doing to this country. I'm woke....but that's because the left "woke me up!"

annie88 said:

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Malibu said:

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I voted for Gary Johnson in 2016 as a never Trumper. I will now happily vote for Joe Biden.

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So still voting for losers. At least you're consistent.

You're now voting for a man who has full-on dementia.

And you're proud of it.

#TDS

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Good one! Feeling that burn all the way to LA.