C@LAg said:

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Simple solution.

Move.

That is the typical retort I get when I post the idiocy of Seattle.

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Indeed.

We could recall her for incompetence, but oops, we also have 100% Democrat state district judges in Harris Co.

Artorias said:

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I have come to loathe the entire concept of property taxes, especially how they are handled here in Texas.

One of the big reasons we are moving to Tennessee.

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My wife and I were talking about where we'd like to retire and to possibly start looking at land in areas we're interested in due to who knows how much things will cost in 30 years, and I told her I'd like to retire outside of Texas for this reason.

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That is the typical retort I get when I post the idiocy of Seattle.

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Exactly!

Artorias said:

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I have come to loathe the entire concept of property taxes, especially how they are handled here in Texas.

One of the big reasons we are moving to Tennessee.

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i kinda like the concept of property taxes over state income.

i can live in a decent area that doesn't have insane taxes in a $100k house. i have the option to move to a nicer house or area with a higher property tax if i so desire. i don't really get a say so with a state income tax.


i'd rather just a flat sales tax instead of any income or property tax, but that sort of thought isn't allowed.

ETA: property taxes obviously aren't perfect. in Bell County we had numerous people have their property values "magically" double this last year. contesting it wasn't too hard though.

Opened the thread for Dora The Explorer memes.

c-jags said:

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Artorias said:

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I have come to loathe the entire concept of property taxes, especially how they are handled here in Texas.

One of the big reasons we are moving to Tennessee.

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i kinda like the concept of property taxes over state income.

i can live in a decent area that doesn't have insane taxes in a $100k house. i have the option to move to a nicer house or area with a higher property tax if i so desire. i don't really get a say so with a state income tax.


i'd rather just a flat sales tax instead of any income or property tax, but that sort of thought isn't allowed.

ETA: property taxes obviously aren't perfect. in Bell County we had numerous people have their property values "magically" double this last year. contesting it wasn't too hard though.

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That is why we are moving to TN. No state income tax, and low property taxes.

Sales tax is slightly higher, but we can budget around that. There is no way to budget around some unelected official deciding what your house is worth, driving your mortgage payment up hundreds of dollars/month.

Yeah you can contest, good luck with that. We contested every year, and I think one of those years it actually resulted in anything meaningful.

C@LAg said:

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Simple solution.

Move.

That is the typical retort I get when I post the idiocy of Seattle.

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And it's the correct response, Chaz.

Texas tax rates for property owners are crazy high especially the school tax.

We are looking to exit the state as it turns blue.

These idiots don't seem to grasp that rate =/= revenue.

They can raise rates to 100% but 100% of 0 is still nothing.

They're in for a hell of a nasty surprise when it turns out HCAD valuations and reality start to diverge wildly.

c-jags said:

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Artorias said:

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I have come to loathe the entire concept of property taxes, especially how they are handled here in Texas.

One of the big reasons we are moving to Tennessee.

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i kinda like the concept of property taxes over state income.

i can live in a decent area that doesn't have insane taxes in a $100k house. i have the option to move to a nicer house or area with a higher property tax if i so desire. i don't really get a say so with a state income tax.


i'd rather just a flat sales tax instead of any income or property tax, but that sort of thought isn't allowed.

ETA: property taxes obviously aren't perfect. in Bell County we had numerous people have their property values "magically" double this last year. contesting it wasn't too hard though.

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The thing about property taxes is the county can raise the value of your house each year if they need more money, so your $100k house may be worth $200k in 10 years after they max out the increase each year. You have zero say in that. Yeah, you can protest it, but how many wins do you think you'll get in a row? With income tax, you have more of a say in your annual income, and if you're in a job with a relatively low income ceiling (teacher, LEO, etc), an income tax is probably preferable. This is why I was against whatever prop was on the ballot recently about adding a constitutional amendment for the state to never have an income tax.

aTm2004 said:

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c-jags said:

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Artorias said:

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I have come to loathe the entire concept of property taxes, especially how they are handled here in Texas.

One of the big reasons we are moving to Tennessee.

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i kinda like the concept of property taxes over state income.

i can live in a decent area that doesn't have insane taxes in a $100k house. i have the option to move to a nicer house or area with a higher property tax if i so desire. i don't really get a say so with a state income tax.


i'd rather just a flat sales tax instead of any income or property tax, but that sort of thought isn't allowed.

ETA: property taxes obviously aren't perfect. in Bell County we had numerous people have their property values "magically" double this last year. contesting it wasn't too hard though.

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The thing about property taxes is the county can raise the value of your house each year if they need more money, so your $100k house may be worth $200k in 10 years after they max out the increase each year. You have zero say in that. Yeah, you can protest it, but how many wins do you think you'll get in a row? With income tax, you have more of a say in your annual income, and if you're in a job with a relatively low income ceiling (teacher, LEO, etc), an income tax is probably preferable. This is why I was against whatever prop was on the ballot recently about adding a constitutional amendment for the state to never have an income tax.

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The other thing about income tax, not that I am a huge fan, is that it goes up as your income goes up. It is predictable. For property tax, you can have the same income each year, but your tax bill go up hundreds or thousands of dollars a year, even if you have done nothing to increase the value of your home.

Our house appraisal value in Cedar Park doubled in 8 years, even though we had not done anything to the house to merit any substantial value increase. We painted and changed out floors. That is about it. The increase was due to tons of people moving into the area, driving prices up, and with that our property taxes.

Property taxes are quite the racket here in Texas. It is double dipping. Cedar Park was already getting a **** ton more tax revenue from all the people moving into the area, and then they turn around and drive the property taxes up on the people already living here to get even more money.

The other thing that irks me about property taxes, is you will never actually "own" your property. You simply rent it from the govt. Here in TX, the property rental prices are exorbitant. For the same house I could buy here in TX, in TN I will pay about 1/10 the property taxes.

C@LAg said:

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Simple solution.

Move.

That is the typical retort I get when I post the idiocy of Seattle.

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Well I've been wanting to move ... they just made that decision for me

F Htown

That's my commish!

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Last year, Radack and Cagle skipped a scheduled meeting at which commissioners were to vote on Hidalgo's proposal to raise property taxes by the eight percent allowable before SB 2 took effect. Without the necessary quorum, the county instead reverted to the "effective rate," or "no-new-revenue rate."

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C@LAg said:

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Simple solution.

Move.

That is the typical retort I get when I post the idiocy of Seattle.

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Now that was funny. Good job.

Had Cagle as an adjunct prof in law school. He's a cool dude.

Troutslime said:

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How about 8% up their ass?

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Some of us say 10%.

Raise the homestead exemption to $100,000 for counties with population under 200,000 and to $200,000 for counties with population over 200,000.

So that lower and middle class folks with multiple children would pay even less for public services than others? Instead of carve outs/exemptions, the rate should be decreased across the board.

Mr. AGSPRT04 said:

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So that lower and middle class folks with multiple children would pay even less for public services than others? Instead of carve outs/exemptions, the rate should be decreased across the board.

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To encourage home ownership. Helps to not price people out of their homes because the taxes go up and up and up!

Mr. AGSPRT04 said:

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Had Cagle as an adjunct prof in law school. He's a cool dude.

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In my prior practice I was in front of Cactus Jack all the time in CCL #1.

Agreed.

Not likely to get it passed. But if the can pick off either precient its game over for harris co.