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oldord said:

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Is that oil spots?

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This is China, those are water spots in the oil slick that covers everything else.

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Thank you!

The government is so busy trying to be the big, bad, boy on the block, they regularly screw over their citizens by dumping hundreds of billions of tons of trash and pollutants in that river and into the ocean surrounding the country.

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The Fife said:

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oldord said:

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Is that oil spots?

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This is China, those are water spots in the oil slick that covers everything else.

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Thank you!

The government is so busy trying to be the big, bad, boy on the block, they regularly screw over their citizens by dumping hundreds of billions of trash and pollutants in that river and into the ocean surrounding the country.

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I really think their global aggressiveness is in part due to their country becoming uninhabitable. They've killed their land.

An interesting read:

https://www.kinetica.co.uk/2014/03/27/chinese-dam-slows-down-earths-rotation/

Prune Tracy said:

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WTF is in that water?

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Duck sauce?

Zemira said:

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Is it bad I want to cheer rain and water to cause destruction?

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Yes.

A failure of that dam would result in the death and destruction of countless innocents. This is an extremely serious situation, and while we may wish ill on the Chinese government, there are global implications if it fails.

This is what the model at the Visitor's Center at the dam looks like:



This is what the river really looks like:


This was downstream in WuHan, at the site where Chairman Mao launched his fabled swim across the Yangtze River.

bkag9824 said:

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Zemira said:

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Is it bad I want to cheer rain and water to cause destruction?

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Yes.

A failure of that dam would result in the death and destruction of countless innocents. This is an extremely serious situation, and while we may wish ill on the Chinese government, there are global implications if it fails.

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Such as? Not arguing, just curious.

The Chinese have been dealing with that river flooding since the time of Alexander the Great....if not longer. This is interesting to watch but I am pretty sure it will be a non-story in about two weeks.

In the big scheme of things it's just a big flood IF it happens. People will have time to evacuate. There will be massive property damage along the river banks and maybe destroy some bridges.

But the world will go on. The flood waters will recede, the people will repair and rebuild.


Member the Midwest floods of the mid-90s? Missouri, Nebraska, and Illinois looked like they were in an inland ocean when the Mississippi and other rivers were over flowing the banks. Do people even talk about it anymore?


Im 99% sure the dam will hold. But if it doesn't, just throw this on the tab for 2020....We'll deal with the consequences in 2021.

Thanks, did not know that.

I would like to know as well.

The Fife said:

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oldord said:

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Is that oil spots?

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This is China, those are water spots in the oil slick that covers everything else.

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I chuckled on first read of your post, but then I went back and looked at the pic again. You're spot on correct...

I'm sure they'll handle this with all of the technocratic competence that they showed during the whole Wuhan thing.

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I would like to know as well.

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Seems to me that losing a couple of million Chinese if the dam fails would be 2020 karma. Especially if it hits Wuhan.

ZFG

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But, in the end, their rote learning style weeds out any ability to actually think and innovate. That is why they steal our Tech.

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I suspect it's also why they still have to have the same innovative ability to USE that stolen technology.

I'm not saying it's not terrible they steal everything we have, I'm just saying they likely don't have the same ability we do to use, create, and enhance said technology.

The only thing I can think of immediately would be an eruption of the Chinese virus (yes, karma) again, but they also have had to destroy approximately 50% of their pig population due to the flu gaining steam.

I don't know all details of China's pork industry, but I do know it's extremely important. I agree with Infectious that it will hold, but if it did go, there's likely to be a pretty massive starvation issue.

Low hanging fruit

Xi has no problems with wiping out many of his people....for the cause

I have a friend who's an engineer. She visited China some years back and took a tour of the dam, along with taking a boat through the locks. She said she was able to break concrete off with her hands. She's maybe 5'1". Her professional opinion wasn't great of the little bit she could see and touch.

aggiehawg said:

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bkag9824 said:

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Zemira said:

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Is it bad I want to cheer rain and water to cause destruction?

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Yes.

A failure of that dam would result in the death and destruction of countless innocents. This is an extremely serious situation, and while we may wish ill on the Chinese government, there are global implications if it fails.

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See Mr. Infectious' infographics below your quoted question.

Potential impacts:

1. Immediate loss of life. Millions are in direct path of likely floodwaters. If they can't bury bodies, think spread of disease. While localized, has potential to spread as people move out of area.
2. Infrastructure damage - buildings, bridges, water systems, electricity down for who knows how long?
3. Health - potential for additional disease due to poor sanitation, lack of drinking water, etc. Coupled with COVID - what additional risk of disease spread is there after such a calamity?

How would the Chinese government get to those in need if there is significant infrastructure damage? Do they care? I'm guessing not on some level, but the potential for massive humanitarian need/disaster is not to be ignored.

Think of the populace that is downriver from the dam, and think of what goods they provide to the world economy. There are too many to list, but you can bet that such a humanitarian event has the potential to set off additional strife. Think Hurricane Harvey on steroids.

When the damn breaks how quickly does the PRC accuse us of taking it out?

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Kingwood experiences this annually.

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Evacuate Katy!

Aren't all of the Chinese supposed to be wearing masks? They'll be fine if the dam breaks!

Presented in a sarcastic manner for those that are quick to condemn on this Board.

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So I can't buy cheap Chinese made crap for awhile.

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Just going to make an already bad situation worse. I've recently encountered system wide shortages of items supplied by China, especially anything made of metal (weightlifting equipment, cage wire, just about anything at Harbor Freight, etc.)

Empty shelves at HF are not something I ever expected to see. But if it had to happen, then it couldn't have happened to a better bunch of commies.

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The only thing in the dam's favor is many Western engineering firms were involved in the design and construction.

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So it might have involved Western engineering, but it was 100% Chinese Construction.

bkag9824 said:

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aggiehawg said:

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bkag9824 said:

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Zemira said:

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Is it bad I want to cheer rain and water to cause destruction?

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Yes.

A failure of that dam would result in the death and destruction of countless innocents. This is an extremely serious situation, and while we may wish ill on the Chinese government, there are global implications if it fails.

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Such as? Not arguing, just curious.

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See Mr. Infectious' infographics below your quoted question.

Potential impacts:

1. Immediate loss of life. Millions are in direct path of likely floodwaters. If they can't bury bodies, think spread of disease. While localized, has potential to spread as people move out of area.
2. Infrastructure damage - buildings, bridges, water systems, electricity down for who knows how long?
3. Health - potential for additional disease due to poor sanitation, lack of drinking water, etc. Coupled with COVID - what additional risk of disease spread is there after such a calamity?

How would the Chinese government get to those in need if there is significant infrastructure damage? Do they care? I'm guessing not on some level, but the potential for massive humanitarian need/disaster is not to be ignored.

Think of the populace that is downriver from the dam, and think of what goods they provide to the world economy. There are too many to list, but you can bet that such a humanitarian event has the potential to set off additional strife. Think Hurricane Harvey on steroids.

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While this will be a devastating loss for the people of China, their government, the people's inability or lackadaisical approach to trying to move their government away from being a Communist hell hole doesn't really cause me great sadness yet.

These people are a product of their upbringing, but I don't wish the demise of the people, only their government. Somehow it might take a destruction on this scale to bring about change in their goverment.

I hope the damn holds as I do not wish a flooding event on this scale for anyone on earth, but at the same time the CCP is pure evil in it's intent and I do not feel anything but karma if the CCP crumbles.

I want China to take it in the shorts because of corona as much as anyone.

That said, here's what happens if the dam goes:

* 400 million Chinese dead, a quarter of China's population.

* the heart of Chinese electronics manufacturing gets submerged. Say goodbye to new consumer electronics here in the USA for some time

* Wuhan bioweapon lab flooded. Whatever else they have in there gets out, good luck rescue workers

* One nuclear power plant gets flooded ***ushima style.