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I've nearly quit watching new movies the last 5 years or so. They simply ceased putting out anything interesting to me. That includes Netflix/Hulu,etc.

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This. The last movie I watched was the 50th anniversary re-release of 2001: A Space Odyssey and it was awesome. But I'm not sure if that counts towards 2018 or 1968 numbers.

cageybee77 said:

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Defund Hollywood. Enough is Enough.

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I think the past 3 months just did that...

Terry Crews said this (and was hammered for it):

Terry Crews is awesome. His twitter is so wholesome and he seems like such a good guy.

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I've noticed a big change on Netflix. Lots of movies and shows with black or women leads. Just look at the new Star Wars. It's weird but I've been finding myself going back watching the older movies with all white cast and strong white male lead actors. Guess I'm a racist ?

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Maybe it is what you have watched previously?

I am not getting that really

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Thor as a woman, seems kind of dumb. And so it goes.

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I thought you were just making up a silly analogy until I googled "female Thor". Natalie Portman is "Thor - Love & Thunder"???

Literally LOL

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Wow googled too. They will be baffled when the film flops financially, but they will receive a bunch of awards so I guess the investors will be happy.

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And Valkyrie is now a lesbian.

As for female Thor, at least they took that from the comics (which went full woke stupid long ago) and didn't make it up just for the movie. It's still just SJW pandering regardless.

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If they put a porn slant on it, it might turn out really good.

Black people make great movies, music, art, and entertianment. They have for years.

The marxist progressive thinking that is running amok here is unhelpful and should be seen as a slap in the face to those with a black heritage that have succeeded in this business.

I mean my goodness. Is there anyone bigger than Dwayne Johnson in the last decade? I'm not talking just an action star. He producing and executive producing all kinds of stuff, tv and film.
Will Smith?
Idris Elba?
Denzel Washington?
Antoine Fuqua?
Jordan Peele?
Ryan Coogler?
Tyler Perry?

Jordan, Ryan, and Dwayne are three of the hottest Producers and/or Directors in the business right now. Coogler is in his 30s. Peele just turned 41. Johnson is not even 50 yet.

Tyler Perry owns his own studio lot. The man is not just one of the richest black people in entertainment, he's one of the richest people in entertainment.

Not to be outdone. What bigger TV producers have there been in last 30 years than black females Oprah Winfrey and Shonda Rhimes? These women have 80 producer credits between them. 90% are within the last 20 years.

Reason I'm focused on producer and director credits is because this is a guage of ownership and creative direction. These aren't just talented pretty faces being paid to act.

August Wilson, a now dead playwright, he wrote the play Fences, which is incredible by the way. Not incredible "for a black playwright". Its just incredible period.

I will let Augusts words from the late 90s speak into the problem of this mindset.

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"Colorblind casting is a aberrant idea that has never had any validity other than as a tool for Cultural Imperialists who view American culture, rooted in the icons of European culture, as beyond reproach in its perfection......"

" To mount an all black production of Death of a Salesman or any other play conceived for white actors as an investigation of the human condition through the specifics of white culture is to deny us our own humanity, our own history, and the need to make our own investigation from the cultrual ground on which we stand as black Americans. It is an assault on our present, our difficult but honorable history in America; is an insult to our intelligence, our playwrights, and our many varied contributions to the society and the world at large."

"We do not need colorblind casting, we need some theatres to develop our playwrights".

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Although August and I probably differ on our political beliefs. I completly agree with him here.

The BLM message is so dangerous for young black people. It completely denies the incredible accomplishments, past and present, of black people. It defines success as white people handing over everything to them in order for them to succeed. It forces them to camp out on bad things that happened in the past instead of dealing with the present. And the picture of the present is a distorted one. Black people are successful. Most black people are middle class. Some black people are upper middle class and wealthy. The problems facing the 30% of the black community in poverty have little to do with racism. It has alot more to do with progressive public policies over the last 50 years, which includes not just poverty programs but also an undermining of the strength of the middle class in general. Undermining small business with regulation. And yes, the corporatism mindset of both the GOP and Democrats also undermines the black community, because large corporations have successfully lobbied in a way that creates additional barriers to enter the marketplace.

This is all so frustrating I feel sorry for the AAs that have existed in the trenches for so many years, helping lift their own people out of poverty, only to have BLM and other race baiting grifters come in an undermine decades of teaching and encouragement surrounding self determination.

Black Flourishing Matters
Black Thriving Matters

BLM is a counterfeit that will not lead to real change for the better in the black community.

My wife and I comment that there is nothing on TV anymore worth watching. And it has nothing to do with race. Nothing but trash.

Buglerank62 said:

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My wife and I comment that there is nothing on TV anymore worth watching. And it has nothing to do with race. Nothing but trash.

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And if you have cable and OTA tv there are 250+ channels of said nothing

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It is already happening in commercial. How many bi-couples, families have we seen since last Thanksgiving? It is so prominent it could be the next drinking game.

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I went to Honeywell's site yesterday to reset my password for my WiFi thermostats.

Not shockingly, the main page is a white guy with a black(?) daughter and a Hispanic(?) son.

Because that is totally the norm.

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It's obvious from some Netflix shows that the writers are extremely progressive, likely gay, and don't like white guys.

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See "The Old Ones" thread in Entertainment. I try to keep my politics off that board because people can't handle it over there but that is a good example and I alluded to this over there.

Headline Protagonist: White female (Charlize Theron)
Teammember 1: Gay white Christian
Teammember 2: Gay Arab

These two are lovers.

Teammember 3: White hetero guy

Betrays the team and screws them all over. Projected to go full evil at end of film. Of course it was the white hetero guy that did this.

Teammember 4: Young black female that is discovered and clearly destined to take over for Charlize Theron.

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No kidding! When Mr. Conspiracy Theory can't make a major studio film due to "politically correct (expletive)," you know the industry has run off the rails. Oliver Stone spoke with the New York Times late last week about the difficulties of working in Hollywood, and why he hasn't done a major film in years. Stone told David Marchese that his main complaint is with studios' marketing efforts, which have taken over all other considerations in filmmaking.

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You had about a 10-year period, starting with "Salvador" and "Platoon" and going up to "Natural Born Killers" or "Nixon," when your films felt like these major statements on the country and the culture. When that zeitgeist-y period ended, which it inevitably does for artists, did it change how you approached your work? I recognize the impact I had, but at the same time I enjoyed doing the films I did afterward. In 1999 I did "Any Given Sunday." I get so much attention for that. "World Trade Center" was one of my most successful films financially. So the parade continued. The problem is in Hollywood. It's just so expensive the marketing. Everything has become too fragile, too sensitive. Hollywood now you can't make a film without a Covid adviser. You can't make a film without a sensitivity counselor. It's ridiculous.

Why is that ridiculous? The Academy changes its mind every five, 10, two months about what it's trying to keep up with. It's politically correct (expletive), and it's not a world I'm anxious to run out into. I've never seen it quite mad like this. It's like an "Alice in Wonderland" tea party.

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Mediaite picked up on the "fragility" quote late yesterday, which seems perfectly positioned to combat the cancel-culture frenzy of late and not just in Hollywood. Stone himself might not volunteer as a combatant in that platoon, however. Sensing that Marchese had taken this too much as his issue, Stone tried to walk it back immediately:

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In what respect? Oh, David, don't go there. That's going to be your headline. You know, I just read something about how films are going to be very expensive to make now, because you need to take all these precautions, and a 50-day shoot becomes a 60-day shoot, and social distancing for actors. That's what I'm talking about.

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The rest of the interview contains some fascinating exchanges between Stone and Marchese, especially on his recent documentary on Russia. Marchese wondered whether Stone had considered why Vladimir Putin showed so much interest in working with him. Did Stone act as a "useful idiot"? Stone bristled at the suggestion, and ended up half-defending Donald Trump on the Russia-collusion conspiracy theory:

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Putin is obviously a canny politician. What do you suspect he believed he had to gain by talking with you? I think his intention, as he forthrightly says again and again in the documentary, was: Let's talk. Let's be mature. Let's be adults in the room.

Could it have been something else maybe? There's that term "the useful idiot." First of all, you should just look at the documentary.

I've seen it. Where is it clear that I'm an idiot? I think it's a very articulate dialogue. I would also point out that when we started, which was in 2014 roughly, the relationship with the United States was not as bad as it would become. Things got much worse. In 2017, we went back to him, and you have on the record what he says about Donald Trump and the American election. I don't think Russia has the desire or the money to spend on "destabilizing" an entire election. And how can you even compare it to what we've done in other countries?

But two evils don't have to be equal for them to both be evil. We're getting too much onto Putin. That's not in this book.

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A conspiracy theory that even Oliver Stone can't buy? Go figure.

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Now on to Ricky Gervais:

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"There's this new weird sort of fascism of people thinking they know what you can say and what you can't and it's a really weird thing that there's this new trendy myth that people who want free speech want to say awful things all the time. It's just isn't true, it protects everyone," Gervais said.

"If you're mildly left-wing on Twitter, you're suddenly Trotsky, right? If your mildly conservative, if you're Hitler and if your centrist and you look at both arguments, you're a coward," he continued.

Ricky Gervais is an avid freedom of speech supporter, and though he supports some curtailments of it in the form of libel and slander laws, he ultimately cautioned against the criminalization of speech that some people might find offensive.

"Just because you're offended it doesn't mean you're right," he said.

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VIA Hot Air

Oliver Stone is having issues getting movies made?

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A revolution is under way. White actors are being fired. Edicts from studio bosses make it clear that only minorities racial and sexual can be given jobs.

A new wave of what has been termed by some as anti-white prejudice is causing writers, directors and producers to fear they will never work again. One described the current atmosphere as 'more toxic than Chernobyl', with leading actors afraid to speak out amid concern they will be labelled racist.

The first sign came with one of the most powerful black directors in Hollywood, Oscar-winning Jordan Peele the man behind box office hits such as Get Out and Us stated in public that he did not want to hire a leading man who was white.

'I don't see myself casting a white dude as the lead in my movie,' Peele said. 'Not that I don't like white dudes. But I've seen that movie before.'

As one studio executive responded privately: 'If a white director said that about hiring a black actor, their career would be over in a heartbeat.' Few doubt it.

Peele is more vocal than most about his hiring policy, but his outlook is increasingly widespread. Dozens of producers, writers and actors have spoken to The Mail on Sunday about the wave of 'reverse racism' pulsing through the industry.

speaking on condition of anonymity, the executive confirmed that the climate is now toxic for any 'white, middle-aged man in showbusiness'. Their careers, 'are pretty much over'.

They continued: 'We're only hiring people of colour, women or LGBT to write, star, produce, operate the cameras, work in craft services. If you are white, you can't speak out because you will instantly be branded 'racist' or condemned for 'white privilege'.

'The pendulum has swung so far, everyone is paralysed with fear by the idea anything you say could be misinterpreted and your career ended instantly. There are a lot of hushed conversations going on, but publicly everyone is desperate to be seen to be promoting diversity and too terrified to speak out. It's imploding: a total meltdown.'

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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8513727/Actors-writers-producers-warn-reverse-racism-film-industry.html

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so are while male gays safe?

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so are while male gays safe?

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For now. But they'll work their way down the list and get to them eventually.

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Now on to Ricky Gervais:

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"There's this new weird sort of fascism of people thinking they know what you can say and what you can't and it's a really weird thing that there's this new trendy myth that people who want free speech want to say awful things all the time. It's just isn't true, it protects everyone," Gervais said.

"If you're mildly left-wing on Twitter, you're suddenly Trotsky, right? If your mildly conservative, if you're Hitler and if your centrist and you look at both arguments, you're a coward," he continued.

Ricky Gervais is an avid freedom of speech supporter, and though he supports some curtailments of it in the form of libel and slander laws, he ultimately cautioned against the criminalization of speech that some people might find offensive.

"Just because you're offended it doesn't mean you're right," he said.

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Ricky going scorched Earth at the Golden Globes was superb. I'm not so sure many Hollywood types like him very much after that.

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"Just because you're offended it doesn't mean you're right," he said.

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No kidding! When Mr. Conspiracy Theory can't make a major studio film due to "politically correct (expletive)," you know the industry has run off the rails. Oliver Stone spoke with the New York Times late last week about the difficulties of working in Hollywood, and why he hasn't done a major film in years. Stone told David Marchese that his main complaint is with studios' marketing efforts, which have taken over all other considerations in filmmaking.

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You had about a 10-year period, starting with "Salvador" and "Platoon" and going up to "Natural Born Killers" or "Nixon," when your films felt like these major statements on the country and the culture. When that zeitgeist-y period ended, which it inevitably does for artists, did it change how you approached your work? I recognize the impact I had, but at the same time I enjoyed doing the films I did afterward. In 1999 I did "Any Given Sunday." I get so much attention for that. "World Trade Center" was one of my most successful films financially. So the parade continued. The problem is in Hollywood. It's just so expensive the marketing. Everything has become too fragile, too sensitive. Hollywood now you can't make a film without a Covid adviser. You can't make a film without a sensitivity counselor. It's ridiculous.

Why is that ridiculous? The Academy changes its mind every five, 10, two months about what it's trying to keep up with. It's politically correct (expletive), and it's not a world I'm anxious to run out into. I've never seen it quite mad like this. It's like an "Alice in Wonderland" tea party.

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Mediaite picked up on the "fragility" quote late yesterday, which seems perfectly positioned to combat the cancel-culture frenzy of late and not just in Hollywood. Stone himself might not volunteer as a combatant in that platoon, however. Sensing that Marchese had taken this too much as his issue, Stone tried to walk it back immediately:

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In what respect? Oh, David, don't go there. That's going to be your headline. You know, I just read something about how films are going to be very expensive to make now, because you need to take all these precautions, and a 50-day shoot becomes a 60-day shoot, and social distancing for actors. That's what I'm talking about.

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The rest of the interview contains some fascinating exchanges between Stone and Marchese, especially on his recent documentary on Russia. Marchese wondered whether Stone had considered why Vladimir Putin showed so much interest in working with him. Did Stone act as a "useful idiot"? Stone bristled at the suggestion, and ended up half-defending Donald Trump on the Russia-collusion conspiracy theory:

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Putin is obviously a canny politician. What do you suspect he believed he had to gain by talking with you? I think his intention, as he forthrightly says again and again in the documentary, was: Let's talk. Let's be mature. Let's be adults in the room.

Could it have been something else maybe? There's that term "the useful idiot." First of all, you should just look at the documentary.

I've seen it. Where is it clear that I'm an idiot? I think it's a very articulate dialogue. I would also point out that when we started, which was in 2014 roughly, the relationship with the United States was not as bad as it would become. Things got much worse. In 2017, we went back to him, and you have on the record what he says about Donald Trump and the American election. I don't think Russia has the desire or the money to spend on "destabilizing" an entire election. And how can you even compare it to what we've done in other countries?

But two evils don't have to be equal for them to both be evil. We're getting too much onto Putin. That's not in this book.

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A conspiracy theory that even Oliver Stone can't buy? Go figure.

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Now on to Ricky Gervais:

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"There's this new weird sort of fascism of people thinking they know what you can say and what you can't and it's a really weird thing that there's this new trendy myth that people who want free speech want to say awful things all the time. It's just isn't true, it protects everyone," Gervais said.

"If you're mildly left-wing on Twitter, you're suddenly Trotsky, right? If your mildly conservative, if you're Hitler and if your centrist and you look at both arguments, you're a coward," he continued.

Ricky Gervais is an avid freedom of speech supporter, and though he supports some curtailments of it in the form of libel and slander laws, he ultimately cautioned against the criminalization of speech that some people might find offensive.

"Just because you're offended it doesn't mean you're right," he said.

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VIA Hot Air

Oliver Stone is having issues getting movies made?

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More shockingly.....Oliver Stone is lamenting political correctness? The man who supported Hugo Chavez and full blown socialism and communism?

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More shockingly.....Oliver Stone is lamenting political correctness? The man who supported Hugo Chavez and full blown socialism and communism?

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Hit 'em in the pocket book and their minds change.