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Warren has already announced she will form a commission to investigate him and his children.

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Warren is at the throw-s***-against-the-wall stage of her campaign and sinking fast.

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Warren has already announced she will form a commission to investigate him and his children.

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Warren is at the throw-s***-against-the-wall stage of her campaign and sinking fast.

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No doubt, and "Orange Man Bad" plays to her base very well.

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If the vote on witnesses was tied 50-50, does the VP still cast the deciding vote, or does that fall to CJ Roberts?

Word today is that momentum is building to deny witnesses and acquit tomorrow...

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Roberts can cast a vote breaking a tie. Or he can abstain from voting. Under the rules of the Senate a final vote of 50-50 means no majority and the measure fails.

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So essentially, 4 Rs have to flip...

All indications right now are that such a move is becoming a pipe dream...

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FireAg said:

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If the vote on witnesses was tied 50-50, does the VP still cast the deciding vote, or does that fall to CJ Roberts?

Word today is that momentum is building to deny witnesses and acquit tomorrow...

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Roberts can cast a vote breaking a tie. Or he can abstain from voting. Under the rules of the Senate a final vote of 50-50 means no majority and the measure fails.

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So essentially, 4 Rs have to flip...

All indications right now are that such a move is becoming a pipe dream...

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And WITHOUT any Dems flipping ...

And guess what? Trump is back up to 50% on Rasmussen. This impeachment sham has done nothing to his approval rating. If anything it is going up.

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The more Jimmy talks, it becomes more and more apparent that Trump maybe took the BEST OPTION for investigating Biden.


President, if he believes a crime has occurred, has a duty to investigate.
Instructing the DOJ to open the case on its face looks politically motivated
A DOJ led investigation has a high probability of hurting the credibility of the DOJ
You can't do nothing, so you ask the person with Jurisdiction to investigate, announce it, which solves ALL THREE problems above.

Did Jimmy just prove Trump made a measured, logical, and appropriate response?

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On top of that, the most relevant evidence - emails, text messages, phone records, bank records, calendars, etc - are likely to be in Burisma's possession or the government's possession in Ukraine. We can't subpoena those records without the cooperation of Ukraine.

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So you think more than 50 senators will vote to impeach Trump?

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If there are witnesses yes. I'm up for an even odds bet on that.

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Deal. $100?

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I'll do $100 on honor. No timeframe, just the final vote. 50 votes is a push, 51+ I win. We might have to define what counts as a "witness".

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Got your $100 ready to send me?

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John Maplethorpe said:

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aginlakeway said:

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John Maplethorpe said:

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aginlakeway said:

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So you think more than 50 senators will vote to impeach Trump?

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If there are witnesses yes. I'm up for an even odds bet on that.

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Deal. $100?

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I'll do $100 on honor. No timeframe, just the final vote. 50 votes is a push, 51+ I win. We might have to define what counts as a "witness".

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Got your $100 ready to send me?

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He said on his honor ...

aginlakeway said:

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He said on his honor ...

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Your honor as this username or your other two?

John Maplethorpe said:

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aginlakeway said:

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John Maplethorpe said:

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aginlakeway said:

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So you think more than 50 senators will vote to impeach Trump?

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If there are witnesses yes. I'm up for an even odds bet on that.

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Deal. $100?

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I'll do $100 on honor. No timeframe, just the final vote. 50 votes is a push, 51+ I win. We might have to define what counts as a "witness".

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Can I expect my $100 over the weekend?

Reminder that the bet was on votes to impeach. Not to call witnesses ...

It's 2:18 PM on January 31, 2020 and Donald J. Trump is STILL your POTUS!!

Good luck with that.

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He said on his honor ...

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Reminds me of the old bachelor party toast...

She offered her honor,
He honored her offer,
and all night long...
he was on her and off her!

aginlakeway said:

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John Maplethorpe said:

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aginlakeway said:

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John Maplethorpe said:

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aginlakeway said:

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So you think more than 50 senators will vote to impeach Trump?

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If there are witnesses yes. I'm up for an even odds bet on that.

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Deal. $100?

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I'll do $100 on honor. No timeframe, just the final vote. 50 votes is a push, 51+ I win. We might have to define what counts as a "witness".

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Can I expect my $100 over the weekend?

Reminder that the bet was on votes to impeach. Not to call witnesses ...

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It looks like you made a bet contingent on witnesses.

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FireAg said:

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If the vote on witnesses was tied 50-50, does the VP still cast the deciding vote, or does that fall to CJ Roberts?

Word today is that momentum is building to deny witnesses and acquit tomorrow...

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Roberts can cast a vote breaking a tie. Or he can abstain from voting. Under the rules of the Senate a final vote of 50-50 means no majority and the measure fails.

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So essentially, 4 Rs have to flip...

All indications right now are that such a move is becoming a pipe dream...

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Roberts comment back to Schmucky about the CJ breaking a tie on voting for witnesses.

But that's impossible. I was told that Roberts is a liberal and they have dirt on him.

Sorry your impeachment lost

If true, that is highly disturbing. McConnell has just gifted the the losers on the left with an opportunity to embarrass Trump with some type of protest event. **** everyone of these pols!

Yeah, but Trump is a different animal. He actually lives for moments like this.

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Glossing over the part where I said "you are unable to prove you are innocent". And missing the point of the example entirely - nobody was killed in this scenario. But you are tried for attempted murder.

In this scenario you have no alibi, you have no receipts, you have no witnesses, etc. But you have several people who THINK you wanted to kill someone based on THEIR interpretation of either things you said or things they heard second hand. And there is no victim because nobody was killed.

But in this Libtopian future scenario you don't have to be proven to have done anything criminal. Simply someone thinking you intended it is enough.

Off to prison you go for attempted murder.

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I already ran a similar example by him earlier, except that he was accused of WANTING to rape children but never did it but that he should be fired because he said to someone he wanted too, and yet this does not come from someone who actually heard him say it but someone who was told by someone close to him who would know that he said he wanted to rape children.

I asked him to prove that he didn't say that, and I then asked him if he should lose his upper level position in the company because of this? Though he never even came close to executing what he was reported to 'want to do'. He did not answer it, he just simple got offended, when E Wyatt made a reference that it was 'true'.

Now this Trump situation is not near as egregious as that.

1. We have prove corruption in Ukraine and Burisma is the top dog in that. Everyone testified of this. We then have the VP (point man of Ukrained getting big bucks for nothing,) from the most corrupt company in Ukraine a company so corrupt that the US consulate would not back and prize give away by this company.

A company that was repeatedly warned about and yet no action taken. None, if these were Trump's kids JV but we screaming for prison. And I would be too.

2. We have Joe BIden clearly executing a quid pro quo on tape. As I said when we start pull back the sheets on that the money laundered into POLs hands through the Ukraine we will hear a cry to bring back tar and feathering. Trump is getting close to core of the viper pit.

I was hoping JV has some real objectivity to him, it is apparent that he does not. He hides behind virtue, and he really wants Trump to be guilty, that is just another TDS, victim.

I would not be surprised if War Turtle used the timing as a small message to Trump to tighten his ship a bit and stop putting the GOP in such a defensive position.

Hey Hawai'i. I know you are going to send a Democrat senator to DC. Can they at least be somewhat sane?