Still standing by....waiting for that call to become President now that Trump is all but certain...for reals this time...to be removed.

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Are there any idiots on this thread that actually believe the GOP will turn on Trump?

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Some have already, Amash for instance. Will more do so?

If Bolton testifies, absolutely.

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Amash hasn't been a Republican since July 2019....

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Still standing by....waiting for that call to become President now that Trump is all but certain...for reals this time...to be removed.

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That's one of her bigger crowds. Is that Gary in that pic?

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Still standing by....waiting for that call to become President now that Trump is all but certain...for reals this time...to be removed.

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That's one of her bigger crowds. Is that Gary in that pic?

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Immediately left of Hillary. In the blue dress.

You'd think he'd show more sensitivity and not wear a blue dress around Hillary.

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You are absolutely delusional if you think this sham impeachment causes masses of voters dumping Nixon to pull the lever for the subhuman garbage infecting the Democrat party.

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-repubs in 1974

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Utah was one of the first states called for President Trump in 2016

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Where are you seeing this?

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You are absolutely delusional if you think this sham impeachment causes masses of voters dumping Nixon to pull the lever for the subhuman garbage infecting the Democrat party.

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-repubs in 1974

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Sorry, but it is 1972...and your party is running five McGoverns instead of just one.

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Are there any idiots on this thread that actually believe the GOP will turn on Trump?

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Some have already, Amash for instance. Will more do so?

If Bolton testifies, absolutely.

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Amash hasn't been a Republican since July 2019....

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And he won't even have his seat come January, 2021.

The point is Trump's brand disgusted him, he left the party. Not that he did it over impeachment.

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Where are you seeing this?

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Maybe I should have said with prefix - "I believe ---" I have seen that mentioned on this board. It matched anecdotal evidence had from some Utah-denizens.

Let's put it in the unverified column for now.

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You are absolutely delusional if you think this sham impeachment causes masses of voters dumping Nixon to pull the lever for the subhuman garbage infecting the Democrat party.

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You are missing aggieforester05's main point:

Look at what the Democrats are running on. Its not going to matter given that. Or as Squadron 7 put it, 5 McGoverns are running.

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The point is Trump's brand disgusted him, he left the party. Not that he did it over impeachment.

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I'm sort of partial to a brand that drops missiles on terrorists rather than pallets of cash.

24th if I'm counting right

https://blog.ap.org/behind-the-news/calling-the-presidential-race-state-by-state

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The point is Trump's brand disgusted him, he left the party. Not that he did it over impeachment.

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Several Democrats have now switched to the GOP due to the impeachment...so you have that going for you.

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The point is Trump's brand disgusted him, he left the party. Not that he did it over impeachment.

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It was all because he didn't like Trump's tariffs interfering with his family's business in China.

Interesting. I stand corrected. It was clear that it didn't mean actual first ones because of the march of time zones across the nation, but a time of 2352 doesn't fit a quick call even for its zone (if Utah time was 2152).

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It's not my party. The point is Republicans can't be sure yet what it is they're helping cover up.

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Days before he resigned, a Gallup poll found that only 31 percent of Republicans thought Nixon should no longer be president. And some of those supporters deeply resented their representatives for their role in ousting Nixon, which may even have contributed to the Democratic landslide in the 1974 midterm elections.

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https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/it-took-a-long-time-for-republicans-to-abandon-nixon/

Trump's Russia advisors keep quitting. How many is this? 3 in 6 months?

https://www.bloomberg.com/amp/news/articles/2020-01-19/trump-loses-another-russia-adviser-adding-to-nsc-turnover?

66% of his Russia advisors have testified against him.

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It's not my party. The point is Republicans can't be sure yet what it is they're helping cover up.

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You really, really feel the need to get him out of office before the 2020 election, don't you?

A distinction with no difference. If one is full-throated subscribing to all the the Democrat talking points while ignoring their seditious resistance behavior from the get-go; you are functionally a Democrat.

This is not a time for nit-pickiness. This is what up against. Read this:

https://texags.com/forums/16/topics/3089852/replies/55850336

The Democratic Party is Progressive Leftist, not Liberal in goal now.

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Was the Democrat party of 1974 populated with degenerate hypocritical filth like it is today? Do you think the Democrats have behaved better or worse than Trump since 2016? You're forgetting a key part of the 2020 election is just how absolutely terrible the Democrats are as a political party. Nothing but lies, propaganda, scandals, corruption, hypocrisy, arrogance, and unamerican/destructive policies positions. Why do you think Americans would vote for these people that have clearly acted like fools for the past three years?

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You are missing aggieforester05's main point:

Look at what the Democrats are running on. Its not going to matter given that. Or as Squadron 7 put it, 5 McGoverns are running.

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It's a false choice. Impeaching Trump, or admitting he's guilty doesn't mean you have to vote for a Democrat or abandon Republican policy preferences.

Going all in for Trump might blow up in their faces and get them a lot more dems and a lot more leftists in '20. It happened a mere 45 years ago.

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Trump's Russia advisors keep quitting. How many is this? 3 in 6 months?

https://www.bloomberg.com/amp/news/articles/2020-01-19/trump-loses-another-russia-adviser-adding-to-nsc-turnover?

66% of his Russia advisors have testified against him.

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He was removed and escorted from the building, reportedly for leaking to the media.

Just another State Dept. hack.

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Odds go down if Bolton testifies. Republicans are running a risk here if they run a sham trial and quickly acquit. More will come out and they don't even know what they're covering up yet.

Nixon defenders were making the same dumb claims in '74. NDS, stupid libs, sham impeachment, unconstitutional, "no evidence", right up til he resigned.

They got slaughtered in the next election because they were seen abetting corruption. Republicans would be much better off just flushing this turd and move on.

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You have to be one of the worst political analyzers on this board. Trump isn't going to be convicted no matter who is called in as a witness. Your entire thought process is just stupid with zero chance of any of it happening.

Trump is on his way to victory in 2020 and there is nothing that is going to stop him from what many are predicting as an easy win. I don't know of any Trump voter in 2016 that is not going to vote for him again in 2020. With the massive Trump success in the economy, trade and everything else, Trump has picked up countless other non-Trump 2016 voters. With all the BS that the DEMS have pulled, there is a very good chance that they lose the House. The entire DEM party is so left-leaning that they are F--cked.

Every time you post, I just laugh at you because your logic so convoluted. But, please keep posting. I can always use a good laugh.

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You. Mad. LOL.

I'll lay out another scenario for you that's plausible. Bolton testifies. Trump's guilt is absolutely determined.

The Senate delivers over 50 impeach votes but not 2/3 needed to convict. More fallout from the scandal drips out for the next 9 months. Some Republicans start to call for him to resign because he's killing their campaign, he refuses.

Republicans are seen as abetting corruption. They and Donald get landslide crushed like Nixon's party did in '74.

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You are absolutely delusional if you think there's going to be masses of voters dumping Donald to pull the lever for the subhuman garbage infecting the Democrat party. Even if it were proven 100% with out a doubt Donald was trying to influence the election (there's zero proof of that), it would pale in comparison to the behavior of the Democrats.

We know for a fact that the Democrats are abusing their constitutional power to influence the election via impeachment, use a corrupt press as their propaganda machine to influence all elections, and in 2016 abused the fisa court process in an attempt to influence that election and start a sham investigation into a duly elected president.

American voters are now privy to information outside of the highly partisan MSM narratives, which means all but the most extreme leftists are aware of just how degenerate the Democrats have become.

Democrats are bad people and no matter how bad you think the Don is, most recognize that the Democrats are far worse and that their policy positions are anti liberty.

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Progressives are either dishonest or fooled by dishonest people.

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Look at what the Democrats are running on. Its not going to matter given that. Or as Squadron 7 put it, 5 McGoverns are running.

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It's a false choice. Impeaching Trump, or admitting he's guilty doesn't mean you have to vote for a Democrat or abandon Republican policy preferences.

Going all in for Trump might blow up in their faces and get them a lot more dems and a lot more leftists in '20. It happened a mere 45 years ago.

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Wrong wrong wrong, if they turn on Trump now it would be an inevitable Democrat victory in 2020. Their misbehavior would be rewarded and we'd all be suffering when we're stuck under their crap political agenda. It is absolute insanity for a supposed libertarian like yourself to be willing to hand the presidency and possibly the senate over to Marxist thugs because you don't agree with Trump investigating the corruption of those same Marxist thugs.

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You are missing aggieforester05's main point:

Look at what the Democrats are running on. Its not going to matter given that. Or as Squadron 7 put it, 5 McGoverns are running.

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It's a false choice. Impeaching Trump, or admitting he's guilty doesn't mean you have to vote for a Democrat or abandon Republican policy preferences.

Going all in for Trump might blow up in their faces and get them a lot more dems and a lot more leftists in '20. It happened a mere 45 years ago.

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Its furthering the dishonest Democratic Party witch-hunt agenda which needs to be broken and rejected.

You keep thinking it is the 1970's ---- back the Democratic Party wasn't ready to sell out American Exceptionalism and free enterprise. That's what running on now.

Anything that rewards their shenanigans is anathema.

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Trump's Russia advisors keep quitting. How many is this? 3 in 6 months?

https://www.bloomberg.com/amp/news/articles/2020-01-19/trump-loses-another-russia-adviser-adding-to-nsc-turnover?

66% of his Russia advisors have testified against him.

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From the article:

"Peek replaced Tim Morrison, who left the position late last year. Morrison testified in the impeachment inquiry that the U.S. Ambassador to the EU, Gordon Sondland, had told him there was a quid pro quo in which U.S. aid to Ukraine was conditioned on the country's government opening an investigation into Burisma, a Ukrainian gas company that employed the son of former Vice President Joe Biden.

Morrison took over the job from Fiona Hill, a longtime Russia expert who also testified as part of the impeachment inquiry. In her testimony, Hill said Republican accusations that Ukraine -- rather than Russia -- meddled in the 2016 presidential election amounted to a "fictional narrative.""

Tim Morrison said Sondland said, sounds like third hand hearsay. Didn't he also say he never once heard Trump bring up quid pro quo and did not know anything Trump did or said was illegal.

Fiona Hill was destroyed on cross. Republicans never said "rather than Russia", but have said both meddled.

Any rational person would relieve these this people from authority.

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Hill witnessed the QPQ offer in the WH meeting and immediately reported to NSA lawyers. These facts have not been disputed.

Hill testified there was a smear campaign including Guiliani against the ambassador which at least in part, was fueled by Russian propaganda. This fact is not in dispute and continues to be corroborated.

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Look at what the Democrats are running on. Its not going to matter given that. Or as Squadron 7 put it, 5 McGoverns are running.

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It's a false choice. Impeaching Trump, or admitting he's guilty doesn't mean you have to vote for a Democrat or abandon Republican policy preferences.

Going all in for Trump might blow up in their faces and get them a lot more dems and a lot more leftists in '20. It happened a mere 45 years ago.

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Wrong wrong wrong, if they turn on Trump now it would be an inevitable Democrat victory in 2020. Their misbehavior would be rewarded and we'd all be suffering when we're stuck under their crap political agenda. It is absolute insanity for a supposed libertarian like yourself to be willing to hand the presidency and possibly the senate over to Marxist thugs because you don't agree with Trump investigating the corruption of those same Marxist thugs.

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He's not a libertarian! He's a deranged, leftist hack that thinks he's smarter than anyone else on this board and can disguise himself as a libertarian to convince Trump supporters they should turn their back on every great thing Trump has done and abandon Trump to insure his desired socialist outcome. He asserts Bolton is the "magic bullet" eventhough he's completely clueless to what Bolton might actually testify about. His claims of Executive Privilege are proof of guilt are sophomoric, idiotic drivel. All it shows is his complete constitutional ignorance about our governments separation of powers and the importance of exerting it in the past and for the future. Gary's, chance's, stephenville's TDS and delusion are second to none on here. He's NEVER been right about anything.

Its futile anyway. You are functionally a Democrat if you mirror their talking points and agenda nearly in full while basically giving them a pass on all their malfeasance. Why would one listen to a Libertarian following the DNC-MSM model any more than to a declared Democrat?

It is also more than a little uncertain to assume that Bolton is going to choose the side of the Islamist enabling Democrats. Especially in the wake of the contrast dealing with Soleimani.

I love it when he keeps saying "the fact is not in dispute". What a lying liberal.

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Look at what the Democrats are running on. Its not going to matter given that. Or as Squadron 7 put it, 5 McGoverns are running.

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It's a false choice. Impeaching Trump, or admitting he's guilty doesn't mean you have to vote for a Democrat or abandon Republican policy preferences.

Going all in for Trump might blow up in their faces and get them a lot more dems and a lot more leftists in '20. It happened a mere 45 years ago.

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Oh only 45 years ago?

Trump is killing it in the polls. I think (like most rational humans) this whole impeachment is ludicrous partisanship. Even if I didn't, Trump is a very popular president despite deranged nutjobs.

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You are missing aggieforester05's main point:

Look at what the Democrats are running on. Its not going to matter given that. Or as Squadron 7 put it, 5 McGoverns are running.

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It's a false choice. Impeaching Trump, or admitting he's guilty doesn't mean you have to vote for a Democrat or abandon Republican policy preferences.

Going all in for Trump might blow up in their faces and get them a lot more dems and a lot more leftists in '20. It happened a mere 45 years ago.

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Good God you're dense.

You literally just posted this quote:

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The Republican electorate turned on their congressmen in regards to Nixon because they ousted the president.

You want to remove the most successful president we've had in a generation because he wanted democrats investigated for being corrupt? Seriously?

Seriously, how badly do you have to hate him personally to want to risk putting the socialists in power?

Do you honestly think the GOP has a better chance with some random other candidate after a removed Trump?

No one could be that stupid. So that's why no one believes you when you say you're a Republican.