***** OFFICIAL TRUMP IMPEACHMENT THREAD *****

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Broken record. Wrong over and over and over. Sad.
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Jimmy Valentine said:

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Post it 2 more times.


Still waiting for you to provide evidence my 10 sources are wrong.

You are assuming motive. How do you impeach on that?


Liberals want us to take them seriously, but they can't even understand this very simple concept. They have no case, it's a partisan lynch mob. Can a single liberal prove factually that Trump's intent was to sway the election versus fulfilling his legally obligated duty to root out corruption? If you can't do that with certainty then you have no case. Assumptions don't count.
That in particular is the weakest part of their claim. There is no evidence that Trump would need, or is the kind of man who would thought he needed, "help" beating Biden of all people. Biden has probably been nearly over with the center vote since the first Democrat debate when he raised hands with the others on all the same `craycray lefty' stances as the board calls them. It was his moment to stand against open borders and handouts toward illegals and he didn't. And that first debate was before all this.

It doesn't make sense. Whereas Trump not wanting to send money into known corruption does.




The same Trump who lost the popular vote to Hillary Clinton?


So tyranny of the majority? Not the first election it happen, thank goodness for the electoral college and a constitutional republic.
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Jimmy Valentine said:

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Jimmy Valentine said:

Wildcat said:

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GYou are splitting hairs on 1 and you know it. The transcript of the call does not support your position. And what's the point of giving Hunter that position if you aren't going to use the leverage?


Unqualified, connected people are on boards of companies all over the world. John Sharp is on the board of American Momentum Bank.


Yes. Because they have various connections...like a Dad who is a VP and can influence policy.

At the very least it's a COI and then you need to add the old man's boasting.


Certainly a conflict of interest, but when you examine the facts, they don't show that Biden did anything wrong by pressing for the firing of a prosecutor who wasn't investigating corruption.


The facts certainly don't show Trump did wrong by pressing for the investigation of a US official who withheld aid to pressure the firing of a foreign prosecutor with ties to his son. Doesn't hurt to investigate, to get to the bottom of it. Democrats have pursued unending baseless investigations into Trump for political gain. To say Trump didn't have the right to investigate Biden here when there was a legitimate concern is the height of hypocrisy. What do you not understand about that?


How could there be a legitimate concern to investigate if history shows that, for fact, Shokin was fired for NOT investigating corruption, which could not have provided any benefit to Burisma?
Because history doesn't show that. That reason is being alleged and reported, but it was also alleged and reported the Steele Dossier was corroborated. I have seen zero data about what Shokin did or did not do.

However, he's just about the only Ukraine politician who was accused of corruption but somehow did not get rich.
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Jimmy Valentine said:

aggieforester05 said:

Jimmy Valentine said:

Wildcat said:

Jimmy Valentine said:

Wildcat said:

You are splitting hairs on 1 and you know it. The transcript of the call does not support your position. And what's the point of giving Hunter that position if you aren't going to use the leverage?


Unqualified, connected people are on boards of companies all over the world. John Sharp is on the board of American Momentum Bank.


Yes. Because they have various connections...like a Dad who is a VP and can influence policy.

At the very least it's a COI and then you need to add the old man's boasting.


Certainly a conflict of interest, but when you examine the facts, they don't show that Biden did anything wrong by pressing for the firing of a prosecutor who wasn't investigating corruption.


The facts certainly don't show Trump did wrong by pressing for the investigation of a US official who withheld aid to pressure the firing of a foreign prosecutor with ties to his son. Doesn't hurt to investigate, to get to the bottom of it. Democrats have pursued unending baseless investigations into Trump for political gain. To say Trump didn't have the right to investigate Biden here when there was a legitimate concern is the height of hypocrisy. What do you not understand about that?


How could there be a legitimate concern to investigate if history shows that, for fact, Shokin was fired for NOT investigating corruption, which could not have provided any benefit to Burisma?


If true, then that's what the investigation would uncover. From there position of supporting unending baseless investigations of Trump, what is your problem with Biden being investigated for extremely fishy circumstances to clear his name? Hypocrisy at its best if you support the Trump investigations but not Biden
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aggieforester05 said:

Jimmy Valentine said:

aggieforester05 said:

Jimmy Valentine said:

Wildcat said:

Jimmy Valentine said:

Wildcat said:

You are splitting hairs on 1 and you know it. The transcript of the call does not support your position. And what's the point of giving Hunter that position if you aren't going to use the leverage?


Unqualified, connected people are on boards of companies all over the world. John Sharp is on the board of American Momentum Bank.


Yes. Because they have various connections...like a Dad who is a VP and can influence policy.

At the very least it's a COI and then you need to add the old man's boasting.


Certainly a conflict of interest, but when you examine the facts, they don't show that Biden did anything wrong by pressing for the firing of a prosecutor who wasn't investigating corruption.


The facts certainly don't show Trump did wrong by pressing for the investigation of a US official who withheld aid to pressure the firing of a foreign prosecutor with ties to his son. Doesn't hurt to investigate, to get to the bottom of it. Democrats have pursued unending baseless investigations into Trump for political gain. To say Trump didn't have the right to investigate Biden here when there was a legitimate concern is the height of hypocrisy. What do you not understand about that?


How could there be a legitimate concern to investigate if history shows that, for fact, Shokin was fired for NOT investigating corruption, which could not have provided any benefit to Burisma?


If true, then that's what the investigation would uncover. From there position of supporting unending baseless investigations of Trump, what is your problem with Biden being investigated for extremely fishy circumstances to clear his name? Hypocrisy at its best if you support the Trump investigations but not Biden


My problem is setting a precedent where the President could use the power of his office to involve a foreign government in an investigation of a political opponent predicated on a very political bias.
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Hi Gary and Jimmy

Still waiting for that evidence that isnt hearsay or conjecture
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Jimmy Valentine said:

aggieforester05 said:

Jimmy Valentine said:

aggieforester05 said:

Jimmy Valentine said:

Wildcat said:

Jimmy Valentine said:

Wildcat said:

You are splitting hairs on 1 and you know it. The transcript of the call does not support your position. And what's the point of giving Hunter that position if you aren't going to use the leverage?


Unqualified, connected people are on boards of companies all over the world. John Sharp is on the board of American Momentum Bank.


Yes. Because they have various connections...like a Dad who is a VP and can influence policy.

At the very least it's a COI and then you need to add the old man's boasting.


Certainly a conflict of interest, but when you examine the facts, they don't show that Biden did anything wrong by pressing for the firing of a prosecutor who wasn't investigating corruption.


The facts certainly don't show Trump did wrong by pressing for the investigation of a US official who withheld aid to pressure the firing of a foreign prosecutor with ties to his son. Doesn't hurt to investigate, to get to the bottom of it. Democrats have pursued unending baseless investigations into Trump for political gain. To say Trump didn't have the right to investigate Biden here when there was a legitimate concern is the height of hypocrisy. What do you not understand about that?


How could there be a legitimate concern to investigate if history shows that, for fact, Shokin was fired for NOT investigating corruption, which could not have provided any benefit to Burisma?


If true, then that's what the investigation would uncover. From there position of supporting unending baseless investigations of Trump, what is your problem with Biden being investigated for extremely fishy circumstances to clear his name? Hypocrisy at its best if you support the Trump investigations but not Biden


My problem is setting a precedent where the President could use the power of his office to involve a foreign government in an investigation of a political opponent predicated on a very political bias.


And what's the reason that Biden, by Video not a rally announced his candidacy two days after Zhelensky was elected?
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I'm done debating at this point.
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McConnell and no other Republican should listen to any Democrat demand, for the remainder of this farce. Only to their base.

Hopefully McConnell is no witless AG Sessions about it.
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titan said:


McConnell and no other Republican should listen to any Democrat demand, for the remainder of this farce. Only to their base.

Hopefully McConnell is no witless AG Sessions about it.
Yep. It's going to be interesting how this plays out. I think McConnell will take the WH lead in the end though. He did it with the judges, I bet he does it with this too. Trump wants to defend himself.
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Trump wants to defend himself.

He does not want WH documents and real witnesses in a trial but it costs him nothing to pretend he does.
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Jimmy Valentine said:

titan said:

aggieforester05 said:

FriscoKid said:

Jimmy Valentine said:

FriscoKid said:

Post it 2 more times.







The same Trump who lost the popular vote to Hillary Clinton?


Ah, love seeing yet another flare up of TDS based on this ignorant response. Let it flare up good.
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Jimmy Valentine said:

aggieforester05 said:

Jimmy Valentine said:

aggieforester05 said:

Jimmy Valentine said:

Wildcat said:

Jimmy Valentine said:

Wildcat said:

You are splitting hairs on 1 and you know it. The transcript of the call does not support your position. And what's the point of giving Hunter that position if you aren't going to use the leverage?


Unqualified, connected people are on boards of companies all over the world. John Sharp is on the board of American Momentum Bank.


Yes. Because they have various connections...like a Dad who is a VP and can influence policy.

At the very least it's a COI and then you need to add the old man's boasting.


Certainly a conflict of interest, but when you examine the facts, they don't show that Biden did anything wrong by pressing for the firing of a prosecutor who wasn't investigating corruption.


The facts certainly don't show Trump did wrong by pressing for the investigation of a US official who withheld aid to pressure the firing of a foreign prosecutor with ties to his son. Doesn't hurt to investigate, to get to the bottom of it. Democrats have pursued unending baseless investigations into Trump for political gain. To say Trump didn't have the right to investigate Biden here when there was a legitimate concern is the height of hypocrisy. What do you not understand about that?


How could there be a legitimate concern to investigate if history shows that, for fact, Shokin was fired for NOT investigating corruption, which could not have provided any benefit to Burisma?


If true, then that's what the investigation would uncover. From there position of supporting unending baseless investigations of Trump, what is your problem with Biden being investigated for extremely fishy circumstances to clear his name? Hypocrisy at its best if you support the Trump investigations but not Biden


My problem is setting a precedent where the President could use the power of his office to involve a foreign government in an investigation of a political opponent predicated on a very political bias.


Do you honestly believe if Obama did what Trump was accused of doing there would have been any sort of investigation or even a news story? There is no reason to worry about precedents when one party is never held accountable. If Trump did 10% of the crooked **** Obama did he'd be out of office by now. Just more liberal hypocrisy, this is nothing more than throwing **** at the wall to see what sticks. Furthermore you're once again assuming that this is about Biden being a political opponent, when Trump was legally obligated to investigate corruption between our government and Ukraine. It's impossible to prove the former.
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I'm not a huge fan of this kind of disruption but these days is there any other way to get the point across to smug politicians that live in a bubble?
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NY Post May 2019

"I do not want Ukraine to again be the subject of U.S. presidential elections," Lutsenko said in an interview with Bloomberg. "Hunter Biden did not violate any Ukrainian laws at least as of now, we do not see any wrongdoing. A company can pay however much it wants to its board."

https://nypost.com/2019/05/16/joe-biden-and-son-hunter-cleared-of-wrongdoing-by-ukraine-prosecutor/amp/?__twitter_impression=true

The Prosecutor made a statement in May 2019, 2 months before the phone call, that they didn't want to be involved and Hunter Biden didn't do anything wrong. Yet, 2 months later, President Trump would bring up investIgating Biden with President Zelensky anyways.
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Jimmy Valentine said:

NY Post May 2019

"I do not want Ukraine to again be the subject of U.S. presidential elections," Lutsenko said in an interview with Bloomberg. "Hunter Biden did not violate any Ukrainian laws at least as of now, we do not see any wrongdoing. A company can pay however much it wants to its board."

https://nypost.com/2019/05/16/joe-biden-and-son-hunter-cleared-of-wrongdoing-by-ukraine-prosecutor/amp/?__twitter_impression=true

The Prosecutor made a statement in May 2019, 2 months before the phone call, that they didn't want to be involved and Hunter Biden didn't do anything wrong. Yet, 2 months later, President Trump would bring up investIgating Biden with President Zelensky anyways.


I'm sure you wouldn't want an investigation into Eric Trump joining the board of a Russian company and bringing home $50K/month as long as Putin it one of his underlings says its above the board.
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The Prosecutor made a statement in May 2019, 2 months before the phone call, that they didn't want to be involved and Hunter Biden didn't do anything wrong. Yet, 2 months later, President Trump would bring up investIgating Biden with President Zelensky anyways.
And Lutsenko was fired. Zelensky called snap elections and gained a solid majority in the Rada between May and July 25, 2019, which was the purpose of the call, to congratulate him on another election win. In the course of the call Zelensky assures Trump that he is beholden to no one and will appoint one of his guys to be Prosecutor General and that it won't be a "typical" politician in Ukraine, meaning corrupt and beholden to an oligarch.

Zelensky even asks Trump for help with the anticipated investigations.
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Jimmy Valentine said:

NY Post May 2019

"I do not want Ukraine to again be the subject of U.S. presidential elections," Lutsenko said in an interview with Bloomberg. "Hunter Biden did not violate any Ukrainian laws at least as of now, we do not see any wrongdoing. A company can pay however much it wants to its board."

https://nypost.com/2019/05/16/joe-biden-and-son-hunter-cleared-of-wrongdoing-by-ukraine-prosecutor/amp/?__twitter_impression=true

The Prosecutor made a statement in May 2019, 2 months before the phone call, that they didn't want to be involved and Hunter Biden didn't do anything wrong. Yet, 2 months later, President Trump would bring up investIgating Biden with President Zelensky anyways.
Lets dissect this:

"Hunter Biden did not violate" - His dad is who we are worried about. Hunter is pawn idiot
"any Ukrainian laws" - we are looking into US laws that were broken by the Papa Biden and UK laws broken by Burisma

"The Prosecutor made a statement in May 2019, 2 months before the phone call, that they didn't want to be involved and Hunter Biden didn't do anything wrong. Yet, 2 months later, President Trump would bring up investIgating Biden with President Zelensky anyways." - Amazing changing of the subject. What did Hunter ask his dad to do? What did ol' Crazy Joe do?
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aggieforester05 said:

Jimmy Valentine said:

aggieforester05 said:

Jimmy Valentine said:

aggieforester05 said:

Jimmy Valentine said:

Wildcat said:

Jimmy Valentine said:

Wildcat said:

You are splitting hairs on 1 and you know it. The transcript of the call does not support your position. And what's the point of giving Hunter that position if you aren't going to use the leverage?


Unqualified, connected people are on boards of companies all over the world. John Sharp is on the board of American Momentum Bank.


Yes. Because they have various connections...like a Dad who is a VP and can influence policy.

At the very least it's a COI and then you need to add the old man's boasting.


Certainly a conflict of interest, but when you examine the facts, they don't show that Biden did anything wrong by pressing for the firing of a prosecutor who wasn't investigating corruption.


The facts certainly don't show Trump did wrong by pressing for the investigation of a US official who withheld aid to pressure the firing of a foreign prosecutor with ties to his son. Doesn't hurt to investigate, to get to the bottom of it. Democrats have pursued unending baseless investigations into Trump for political gain. To say Trump didn't have the right to investigate Biden here when there was a legitimate concern is the height of hypocrisy. What do you not understand about that?


How could there be a legitimate concern to investigate if history shows that, for fact, Shokin was fired for NOT investigating corruption, which could not have provided any benefit to Burisma?


If true, then that's what the investigation would uncover. From there position of supporting unending baseless investigations of Trump, what is your problem with Biden being investigated for extremely fishy circumstances to clear his name? Hypocrisy at its best if you support the Trump investigations but not Biden


My problem is setting a precedent where the President could use the power of his office to involve a foreign government in an investigation of a political opponent predicated on a very political bias.


Do you honestly believe if Obama did what Trump was accused of doing there would have been any sort of investigation or even a news story? There is no reason to worry about precedents when one party is never held accountable. If Trump did 10% of the crooked **** Obama did he'd be out of office by now. Just more liberal hypocrisy, this is nothing more than throwing **** at the wall to see what sticks. Furthermore you're once again assuming that this is about Biden being a political opponent, when Trump was legally obligated to investigate corruption between our government and Ukraine. It's impossible to prove the former.

Trump has done nothing more than beat the queen of the demoRATS. Obama committed obstruction of congress, obstruction of justice, witness tampering, collision, racketeering, and fraud!
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Deats said:

Jimmy Valentine said:

NY Post May 2019

"I do not want Ukraine to again be the subject of U.S. presidential elections," Lutsenko said in an interview with Bloomberg. "Hunter Biden did not violate any Ukrainian laws at least as of now, we do not see any wrongdoing. A company can pay however much it wants to its board."

https://nypost.com/2019/05/16/joe-biden-and-son-hunter-cleared-of-wrongdoing-by-ukraine-prosecutor/amp/?__twitter_impression=true

The Prosecutor made a statement in May 2019, 2 months before the phone call, that they didn't want to be involved and Hunter Biden didn't do anything wrong. Yet, 2 months later, President Trump would bring up investIgating Biden with President Zelensky anyways.
Lets dissect this:

"Hunter Biden did not violate" - His dad is who we are worried about. Hunter is pawn idiot
"any Ukrainian laws" - we are looking into US laws that were broken by the Papa Biden and UK laws broken by Burisma

"The Prosecutor made a statement in May 2019, 2 months before the phone call, that they didn't want to be involved and Hunter Biden didn't do anything wrong. Yet, 2 months later, President Trump would bring up investIgating Biden with President Zelensky anyways." - Amazing changing of the subject. What did Hunter ask his dad to do? What did ol' Crazy Joe do?


The 10 previous links already established that Joe Biden didn't do anything wrong either. He helped get a prosecutor fired for NOT investigating corruption.
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Jimmy Valentine said:

Deats said:

Jimmy Valentine said:

NY Post May 2019

"I do not want Ukraine to again be the subject of U.S. presidential elections," Lutsenko said in an interview with Bloomberg. "Hunter Biden did not violate any Ukrainian laws at least as of now, we do not see any wrongdoing. A company can pay however much it wants to its board."

https://nypost.com/2019/05/16/joe-biden-and-son-hunter-cleared-of-wrongdoing-by-ukraine-prosecutor/amp/?__twitter_impression=true

The Prosecutor made a statement in May 2019, 2 months before the phone call, that they didn't want to be involved and Hunter Biden didn't do anything wrong. Yet, 2 months later, President Trump would bring up investIgating Biden with President Zelensky anyways.
Lets dissect this:

"Hunter Biden did not violate" - His dad is who we are worried about. Hunter is pawn idiot
"any Ukrainian laws" - we are looking into US laws that were broken by the Papa Biden and UK laws broken by Burisma

"The Prosecutor made a statement in May 2019, 2 months before the phone call, that they didn't want to be involved and Hunter Biden didn't do anything wrong. Yet, 2 months later, President Trump would bring up investIgating Biden with President Zelensky anyways." - Amazing changing of the subject. What did Hunter ask his dad to do? What did ol' Crazy Joe do?


The 10 previous links already established that Joe Biden didn't do anything wrong either. He helped get a prosecutor fired for NOT investigating corruption.


OBJECTION - assuming facts not in evidence! News articles making claims are not facts. Hearsay isn't permitted, only written investigation and witness interviews or testimony can be facts! Try again little buddy. You might want to standup in the high chair and scream louder next time!
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Jimmy when this doesn't work out for you (and it won't), are you just going to keep preaching the flawed logic endlessly?
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If Biden did nothing wrong, then he wont mind if there is an investigation.

Sure seems like Trump was investigated despite exculpatory evidence. That is what we have been doing for 3 years. Investigating Trump for everything.

Suck it up Dems. Payback is a *****.

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What makes you think the only place malfeasance could have occurred is in regards to Joe getting the prosecutor fired? Joe could have, and probably did, use his position as VP to influence all sorts of things that were in Burisma, and not the US's, best interest. Burisma was paying for something, and you would have to be a brain dead idiot to think it was for a coke head loser who knew nothing about the company.

This is why a legitimate investigation should occur. Why do you think Biden continues to tell obviously lies whenever the subject gets brought up? Are you really so stupid that you think he has nothing to hide? Really?

I'll concede the firing of the prosecutor might be a red herring, but it takes an unfathomable amount ignorance to suggest there was nothing worth investigating there.
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TurkeyBaconLeg said:

If Biden did nothing wrong, then he wont mind if there is an investigation.

Sure seems like Trump was investigated despite exculpatory evidence. That is what we have been doing for 3 years. Investigating Trump for everything.

Suck it up Dems. Payback is a *****.




If Trump didn't do anything wrong, why has he blocked investigations?
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What makes you think the only place malfeasance could have occurred is in regards to Joe getting the prosecutor fired? Joe could have, and probably did, use his position as VP to influence all sorts of things that were in Burisma, and not the US's, best interest. Burisma was paying for something, and you would have to be a brain dead idiot to think it was for a coke head loser who knew nothing about the company.

This is why a legitimate investigation should occur. Why do you think Biden continues to tell obviously lies whenever the subject gets brought up? Are you really so stupid that you think he has nothing to hide? Really?

I'll concede the firing of the prosecutor might be a red herring, but it takes an unfathomable amount ignorance to suggest there was nothing worth investigating there.


Because that's the evidence that has been presented to justify investigating Biden.
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Jimmy Valentine said:

Deats said:

Jimmy Valentine said:

NY Post May 2019

"I do not want Ukraine to again be the subject of U.S. presidential elections," Lutsenko said in an interview with Bloomberg. "Hunter Biden did not violate any Ukrainian laws at least as of now, we do not see any wrongdoing. A company can pay however much it wants to its board."

https://nypost.com/2019/05/16/joe-biden-and-son-hunter-cleared-of-wrongdoing-by-ukraine-prosecutor/amp/?__twitter_impression=true

The Prosecutor made a statement in May 2019, 2 months before the phone call, that they didn't want to be involved and Hunter Biden didn't do anything wrong. Yet, 2 months later, President Trump would bring up investIgating Biden with President Zelensky anyways.
Lets dissect this:

"Hunter Biden did not violate" - His dad is who we are worried about. Hunter is pawn idiot
"any Ukrainian laws" - we are looking into US laws that were broken by the Papa Biden and UK laws broken by Burisma

"The Prosecutor made a statement in May 2019, 2 months before the phone call, that they didn't want to be involved and Hunter Biden didn't do anything wrong. Yet, 2 months later, President Trump would bring up investIgating Biden with President Zelensky anyways." - Amazing changing of the subject. What did Hunter ask his dad to do? What did ol' Crazy Joe do?


The 10 previous links already established that Joe Biden didn't do anything wrong either. He helped get a prosecutor fired for NOT investigating corruption.
First of all, there is a video of Biden literally bragging that he got the guy fired for trying to investigate Burisma.

Just for laughs, we will entertain your illogical conclusion that goes against what Biden publically stated. Say Biden got this guy fired because he was not investigating corruption. Isn't that the reason you are trying to impeach Trump? For working to get a foreign power to conduct an investigation?

Please continue contorting yourself into a pretzel.
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drevans956 said:

Jimmy Valentine said:

Deats said:

Jimmy Valentine said:

NY Post May 2019

"I do not want Ukraine to again be the subject of U.S. presidential elections," Lutsenko said in an interview with Bloomberg. "Hunter Biden did not violate any Ukrainian laws at least as of now, we do not see any wrongdoing. A company can pay however much it wants to its board."

https://nypost.com/2019/05/16/joe-biden-and-son-hunter-cleared-of-wrongdoing-by-ukraine-prosecutor/amp/?__twitter_impression=true

The Prosecutor made a statement in May 2019, 2 months before the phone call, that they didn't want to be involved and Hunter Biden didn't do anything wrong. Yet, 2 months later, President Trump would bring up investIgating Biden with President Zelensky anyways.
Lets dissect this:

"Hunter Biden did not violate" - His dad is who we are worried about. Hunter is pawn idiot
"any Ukrainian laws" - we are looking into US laws that were broken by the Papa Biden and UK laws broken by Burisma

"The Prosecutor made a statement in May 2019, 2 months before the phone call, that they didn't want to be involved and Hunter Biden didn't do anything wrong. Yet, 2 months later, President Trump would bring up investIgating Biden with President Zelensky anyways." - Amazing changing of the subject. What did Hunter ask his dad to do? What did ol' Crazy Joe do?


The 10 previous links already established that Joe Biden didn't do anything wrong either. He helped get a prosecutor fired for NOT investigating corruption.


OBJECTION - assuming facts not in evidence! News articles making claims are not facts. Hearsay isn't permitted, only written investigation and witness interviews or testimony can be facts! Try again little buddy. You might want to standup in the high chair and scream louder next time!


Lol
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Jimmy Valentine said:

TurkeyBaconLeg said:

If Biden did nothing wrong, then he wont mind if there is an investigation.

Sure seems like Trump was investigated despite exculpatory evidence. That is what we have been doing for 3 years. Investigating Trump for everything.

Suck it up Dems. Payback is a *****.




If Trump didn't do anything wrong, why has he blocked investigations?
He released the transcript of the call itself. What else is left to investigate?
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Cy_Tolliver said:

Jimmy Valentine said:

Deats said:

Jimmy Valentine said:

NY Post May 2019

"I do not want Ukraine to again be the subject of U.S. presidential elections," Lutsenko said in an interview with Bloomberg. "Hunter Biden did not violate any Ukrainian laws at least as of now, we do not see any wrongdoing. A company can pay however much it wants to its board."

https://nypost.com/2019/05/16/joe-biden-and-son-hunter-cleared-of-wrongdoing-by-ukraine-prosecutor/amp/?__twitter_impression=true

The Prosecutor made a statement in May 2019, 2 months before the phone call, that they didn't want to be involved and Hunter Biden didn't do anything wrong. Yet, 2 months later, President Trump would bring up investIgating Biden with President Zelensky anyways.
Lets dissect this:

"Hunter Biden did not violate" - His dad is who we are worried about. Hunter is pawn idiot
"any Ukrainian laws" - we are looking into US laws that were broken by the Papa Biden and UK laws broken by Burisma

"The Prosecutor made a statement in May 2019, 2 months before the phone call, that they didn't want to be involved and Hunter Biden didn't do anything wrong. Yet, 2 months later, President Trump would bring up investIgating Biden with President Zelensky anyways." - Amazing changing of the subject. What did Hunter ask his dad to do? What did ol' Crazy Joe do?


The 10 previous links already established that Joe Biden didn't do anything wrong either. He helped get a prosecutor fired for NOT investigating corruption.
First of all, there is a video of Biden literally bragging that he got the guy fired for trying to investigate Burisma.

Just for laughs, we will entertain your illogical conclusion that goes against what Biden publically stated. Say Biden got this guy fired because he was not investigating corruption. Isn't that the reason you are trying to impeach Trump? For working to get a foreign power to conduct an investigation?

Please continue contorting yourself into a pretzel.


The video you are talking about doesn't mention Burisma.
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aggiehawg said:

Jimmy Valentine said:

TurkeyBaconLeg said:

If Biden did nothing wrong, then he wont mind if there is an investigation.

Sure seems like Trump was investigated despite exculpatory evidence. That is what we have been doing for 3 years. Investigating Trump for everything.

Suck it up Dems. Payback is a *****.




If Trump didn't do anything wrong, why has he blocked investigations?
He released the transcript of the call itself. What else is left to investigate?


The predicate for Trump's desired investigation of Biden has a clear political bias, which calls the entire situation into question.

Do you think every future Democrat President should have the power to request a foreign government investigate a political opponent with this much exculpatory evidence in plain view?
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Jimmy Valentine said:

Cy_Tolliver said:

Jimmy Valentine said:

Deats said:

Jimmy Valentine said:

NY Post May 2019

"I do not want Ukraine to again be the subject of U.S. presidential elections," Lutsenko said in an interview with Bloomberg. "Hunter Biden did not violate any Ukrainian laws at least as of now, we do not see any wrongdoing. A company can pay however much it wants to its board."

https://nypost.com/2019/05/16/joe-biden-and-son-hunter-cleared-of-wrongdoing-by-ukraine-prosecutor/amp/?__twitter_impression=true

The Prosecutor made a statement in May 2019, 2 months before the phone call, that they didn't want to be involved and Hunter Biden didn't do anything wrong. Yet, 2 months later, President Trump would bring up investIgating Biden with President Zelensky anyways.
Lets dissect this:

"Hunter Biden did not violate" - His dad is who we are worried about. Hunter is pawn idiot
"any Ukrainian laws" - we are looking into US laws that were broken by the Papa Biden and UK laws broken by Burisma

"The Prosecutor made a statement in May 2019, 2 months before the phone call, that they didn't want to be involved and Hunter Biden didn't do anything wrong. Yet, 2 months later, President Trump would bring up investIgating Biden with President Zelensky anyways." - Amazing changing of the subject. What did Hunter ask his dad to do? What did ol' Crazy Joe do?


The 10 previous links already established that Joe Biden didn't do anything wrong either. He helped get a prosecutor fired for NOT investigating corruption.
First of all, there is a video of Biden literally bragging that he got the guy fired for trying to investigate Burisma.

Just for laughs, we will entertain your illogical conclusion that goes against what Biden publically stated. Say Biden got this guy fired because he was not investigating corruption. Isn't that the reason you are trying to impeach Trump? For working to get a foreign power to conduct an investigation?

Please continue contorting yourself into a pretzel.


The video you are talking about doesn't mention Burisma.
That's what you are going with? OK it's obvious you are one of those that believes covering for the corruption of "your guy" is part of politics. Either that or you are just taking the Biden approach of "I'm just too dumb to see corruption"



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Jimmy Valentine said:

Deats said:

Jimmy Valentine said:

NY Post May 2019

"I do not want Ukraine to again be the subject of U.S. presidential elections," Lutsenko said in an interview with Bloomberg. "Hunter Biden did not violate any Ukrainian laws at least as of now, we do not see any wrongdoing. A company can pay however much it wants to its board."

https://nypost.com/2019/05/16/joe-biden-and-son-hunter-cleared-of-wrongdoing-by-ukraine-prosecutor/amp/?__twitter_impression=true

The Prosecutor made a statement in May 2019, 2 months before the phone call, that they didn't want to be involved and Hunter Biden didn't do anything wrong. Yet, 2 months later, President Trump would bring up investIgating Biden with President Zelensky anyways.
Lets dissect this:

"Hunter Biden did not violate" - His dad is who we are worried about. Hunter is pawn idiot
"any Ukrainian laws" - we are looking into US laws that were broken by the Papa Biden and UK laws broken by Burisma

"The Prosecutor made a statement in May 2019, 2 months before the phone call, that they didn't want to be involved and Hunter Biden didn't do anything wrong. Yet, 2 months later, President Trump would bring up investIgating Biden with President Zelensky anyways." - Amazing changing of the subject. What did Hunter ask his dad to do? What did ol' Crazy Joe do?


The 10 previous links already established that Joe Biden didn't do anything wrong either. He helped get a prosecutor fired for NOT investigating corruption.


Wrong, you can't prove a negative. You can't prove he didn't do anything wrong ever. What you can do is prove that he didn't do specific acts at specific times, which still up to opinion based on your "10 sources".
“A republic, if you can keep it”

AggieKatie2 said:
ETX is honestly starting to scare me a bit as someone who may be trigger happy.
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