***** OFFICIAL TRUMP IMPEACHMENT THREAD *****

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Silent For Too Long
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MetoliusAg said:

Ubitag said:

mugwurt said:

Ubitag said:

someone explain to me why after the end of the Russia investigation Trump put himself in this mess?

If he wanted to bring Joe and Hunter into the limelight, he damn sure screwed it up and will eventually become the 4th president to be impeached.

I like a lot of his policies but he walked right into this with his arrogant mouth and is losing my support.
So you are going to vote for Warren?

With a national debt of $24 Trillion dollars and over 50% of the public working for either local, state, or federal government I don't think it really matters who I vote for. As a nation, we r bankrupt both financially and spiritually.

The global debt is much much higher, twice the total wealth of the nations on earth. We just keep printing money and personal debt continues to grow out of control. Who is going to pay for it?

Six of the seven G7 leaders don't have children and will continue to open their borders for the invasion mostly coming from Africa. I could go on but u get the message.

Civil war is coming
Good post.

Some hard times are coming. It could possibly include civil war but otoh it might be more like several other periods in US history where there was widespread social / economic / political upheaval, change, and eventual progress.


"Progress" is what got us to this **** show in the first place.

Free enterprise and liberty made us the most prosperous nation in history. "Progress" threatens to take that all away.

You can take your "progress" and shove it up your ass.
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MetoliusAg
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Trump has been more agitated and irrational than usual, lately. I wonder what's bugging him.

agsfan
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John Bolton told a bunch of hedge fund managers in Miami that Trump made his Turkey decision based on his business/personal dealings there.

So after Trump is acquitted for the Ukraine stuff, we get to do this all over again.
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agsfan said:

John Bolton told a bunch of hedge fund managers in Miami that Trump made his Turkey decision based on his business/personal dealings there.

So after Trump is acquitted for the Ukraine stuff, we get to do this all over again.

Roasted or fried?
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agsfan said:

John Bolton told a bunch of hedge fund managers in Miami that Trump made his Turkey decision based on his business/personal dealings there.

So after Trump is acquitted for the Ukraine stuff, we get to do this all over again.

A link from a credible source would be nice?
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Schiff gets the first 45 minutes today to deliver an uninterrupted sermon. No "questioning" the witness, no chance for counter statements, just 45 minutes to preach while the most people are tuned in. He can parody and tell half-truths all he wants to form public opinion. Truth be damned.
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agsfan said:

John Bolton told a bunch of hedge fund managers in Miami that Trump made his Turkey decision based on his business/personal dealings there.

So after Trump is acquitted for the Ukraine stuff, we get to do this all over again.


So says the war monger.
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Fake witch hunts would probably bug you too...
Rockdoc
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Yep. 45 minutes of sound bites to be used by the MSM so they can whip themselves into a frenzy. That's all this whole thing is anyway. Dems know it and the repubs know it. The senate will step on the dems throat and that will be it.
agsfan
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I get the feeling any news source I link won't be sufficient for you.

I'm irritated he'll get behind closed doors with hedge fund managers for thousands of dollars, or write it in a book for millions, but won't talk to Congress.
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Rockdoc said:

Yep. 45 minutes of sound bites to be used by the MSM so they can whip themselves into a frenzy. That's all this whole thing is anyway. Dems know it and the repubs know it. The senate will step on the dems throat and that will be it.

And after that long most people will have tuned out anyways. They will hear all the "bad crimes" and make up their mind. I hope republicans disrupt that somehow while folks are listening.
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Will there be ANY testimony that ISN'T hearsay, assumption, or innuendo?

Will ANYONE produce tangible, unimpeachable evidence of a crime?
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FireAg said:

Will there be ANY testimony that ISN'T hearsay, assumption, or innuendo?

Will ANYONE produce tangible, unimpeachable evidence of a crime?
Given what was already said in the previous hearings, probably not.
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I wish the Republicans brought bushel baskets of rotten tomatoes to throw at Schiff and the other Dems.
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agsfan said:

I get the feeling any news source I link won't be sufficient for you.

I'm irritated he'll get behind closed doors with hedge fund managers for thousands of dollars, or write it in a book for millions, but won't talk to Congress.

The nice thing about anonymous message boards is that you can just make sheet up and count on it getting spread around other anonymous message boards such that the least intellectual in society become to believe it as fact.

Where do you think you are in this chain?
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FireAg said:

Will there be ANY testimony that ISN'T hearsay, assumption, or innuendo?

Will ANYONE produce tangible, unimpeachable evidence of a crime?

Your facts and "evidence" are hurting my feelings. You must be silenced.
mrad85
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agsfan said:

I get the feeling any news source I link won't be sufficient for you.

I'm irritated he'll get behind closed doors with hedge fund managers for thousands of dollars, or write it in a book for millions, but won't talk to Congress.
You don't know me, and I don't know you and that's perfectly fine with me.

I simply asked if you could provide a link to the source of your claim.

If you can't back up your claim, or at least state that's it's your opinion, kindly STFU and take your troll somewhere else. TIA

FireAg
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Jim Jordan has taken his seat...thank goodness someone with a brain will be there...
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https://thehill.com/policy/national-security/470085-bolton-says-trumps-turkey-policy-motivated-by-personal-financial

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/powerpost/paloma/the-finance-202/2019/11/13/the-finance-202-john-bolton-takes-heat-for-speaking-to-morgan-stanley-clients-but-not-congress/5dcb34d3602ff1184c31643d/

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/private-speech-bolton-suggests-some-trump-s-foreign-policy-decisions-n1080651

https://www.aol.com/article/news/2019/11/12/bolton-suggests-motivation-behind-trumps-policy-decisions/23859435/


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agsfan said:

https://thehill.com/policy/national-security/470085-bolton-says-trumps-turkey-policy-motivated-by-personal-financial

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/powerpost/paloma/the-finance-202/2019/11/13/the-finance-202-john-bolton-takes-heat-for-speaking-to-morgan-stanley-clients-but-not-congress/5dcb34d3602ff1184c31643d/

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/private-speech-bolton-suggests-some-trump-s-foreign-policy-decisions-n1080651

https://www.aol.com/article/news/2019/11/12/bolton-suggests-motivation-behind-trumps-policy-decisions/23859435/



Thanks! I appreciate it.
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agsfan said:

https://thehill.com/policy/national-security/470085-bolton-says-trumps-turkey-policy-motivated-by-personal-financial

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/powerpost/paloma/the-finance-202/2019/11/13/the-finance-202-john-bolton-takes-heat-for-speaking-to-morgan-stanley-clients-but-not-congress/5dcb34d3602ff1184c31643d/

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/private-speech-bolton-suggests-some-trump-s-foreign-policy-decisions-n1080651

https://www.aol.com/article/news/2019/11/12/bolton-suggests-motivation-behind-trumps-policy-decisions/23859435/



Give us EVIDENCE...not speculation or conjecture...

There NEEDS to be a smoking gun...
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This is the stuff the dems should be talking about (if true). You know, stuff that actually has the potential to be a crime.

The stroke they are having to protect Joe Biden (unethical) and Clinton campaigns (manufacturing dirt) in Ukraine
is a waste of time.

agsfan
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I didn't say there was one. I said Bolton said _________ and it would lead to another show like this.
I don't know what Bolton has. Seems like he and his lawyer are doing a hell of a job selling a book though.
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agsfan said:

I didn't say there was one. I said Bolton said _________ and it would lead to another show like this.
I don't know what Bolton has. Seems like he and his lawyer are doing a hell of a job selling a book though.

This is probably why dems don't run with these rumors. Bolton is probably bending the truth to make his own money.

Trump has dozens of people on every call, him openly enriching himself abroad would be run to congress faster than the current nonsense.

mrad85
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agsfan said:

https://thehill.com/policy/national-security/470085-bolton-says-trumps-turkey-policy-motivated-by-personal-financial

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/powerpost/paloma/the-finance-202/2019/11/13/the-finance-202-john-bolton-takes-heat-for-speaking-to-morgan-stanley-clients-but-not-congress/5dcb34d3602ff1184c31643d/

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/private-speech-bolton-suggests-some-trump-s-foreign-policy-decisions-n1080651

https://www.aol.com/article/news/2019/11/12/bolton-suggests-motivation-behind-trumps-policy-decisions/23859435/



Ok, here is my assessment:

They all are basically the same article referencing the NBC Article.

From the NBC article:

I have to give some pause to these snippets:

"several people who were present for the remarks told NBC News"
"According to six people who were there"

"Multiple people who attended Bolton's private speech in Miami did not recall him mentioning Ukraine"

"people who were present said"

"people present for his remarks said"
"the people present for Bolton's speech said."
"Those present said that at that point,"


Surely, as many Trump haters as there are in this world, the authors could get SOMEONE to actually go on the record????
aggiehawg
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Trump has dozens of people on every call, him openly enriching himself abroad would be run to congress faster than the current nonsense.
Not to mention the likely recording of the call on the other end. I have to wonder if that was part of Schiff's toadie, Thomas Eager's trip to Ukraine? See if he could get Taylor to wrangle the Ukrainian record of the call from Zelensky?
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FriscoKid said:

Rockdoc said:

Yep. 45 minutes of sound bites to be used by the MSM so they can whip themselves into a frenzy. That's all this whole thing is anyway. Dems know it and the repubs know it. The senate will step on the dems throat and that will be it.

And after that long most people will have tuned out anyways. They will hear all the "bad crimes" and make up their mind. I hope republicans disrupt that somehow while folks are listening.
Oh, there may be a disruption all right. But not one that either side is really thinking about or wants. It is worrisome what President Carter went into the hospital for --- that kind of thing after three falls no less is very dicey. A sad announcement somewhere in near future is not unlikely. Not wishing to be morbid, but its just a reality.
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mrad85 said:

agsfan said:

https://thehill.com/policy/national-security/470085-bolton-says-trumps-turkey-policy-motivated-by-personal-financial

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/powerpost/paloma/the-finance-202/2019/11/13/the-finance-202-john-bolton-takes-heat-for-speaking-to-morgan-stanley-clients-but-not-congress/5dcb34d3602ff1184c31643d/

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/private-speech-bolton-suggests-some-trump-s-foreign-policy-decisions-n1080651

https://www.aol.com/article/news/2019/11/12/bolton-suggests-motivation-behind-trumps-policy-decisions/23859435/



Ok, here is my assessment:

They all are basically the same article referencing the NBC Article.

From the NBC article:

I have to give some pause to these snippets:

"several people who were present for the remarks told NBC News"
"According to six people who were there"

"Multiple people who attended Bolton's private speech in Miami did not recall him mentioning Ukraine"

"people who were present said"

"people present for his remarks said"
"the people present for Bolton's speech said."
"Those present said that at that point,"


Surely, as many Trump haters as there are in this world, the authors could get SOMEONE to actually go on the record????

That is the standard media circle jerk.

One outlet will put out a story (virtually always with anonymous sources or no sources at all) and all of the others will then run with it, with each outlet using the others to back up their claims.
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MetoliusAg said:

One of the articles of impeachment that will be considered and voted on in the House is Trump's utter unfitness for the office of the Presidency.
There are only a few constitutional requirements that I am aware of. What list of requirements are they working off of?
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MetoliusAg said:

Trump has been more agitated and irrational than usual, lately. I wonder what's bugging him.


Fake Leaks
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MetoliusAg said:

One of the articles of impeachment that will be considered and voted on in the House is Trump's utter unfitness for the office of the Presidency.
So....someone's opinion? Is there a Presidential ACT or SAT that one has to take to prove this? Good lord.
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It's 10:02 AM on November 13, 2019 and Donald J. Trump is STILL the POTUS...



and Jeffrey Epstein STILL didn't kill himself.
Covidians, Communists, CNN, FOX, and all other MSM are enemies of the state and should be treated as such.
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Spotted Ag said:

It's 10:02 AM on November 13, 2019 and Donald J. Trump is STILL the POTUS...



and Jeffrey Epstein STILL didn't kill himself.
You are late!

There is no excuse for this, for the last hour I was under the impression that Hillary was now the POTUS, and some guy committed suicide.

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78_Pacecar said:

Spotted Ag said:

It's 10:02 AM on November 13, 2019 and Donald J. Trump is STILL the POTUS...



and Jeffrey Epstein STILL didn't kill himself.
You are late!

There is no excuse for this, for the last hour I was under the impression that Hillary was now the POTUS, and some guy committed suicide.


I was on an involuntary vacation....
Covidians, Communists, CNN, FOX, and all other MSM are enemies of the state and should be treated as such.
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