mugwurt said:
Do our resident concerned moderates actually think there is a snowball's chance in hell the Senate will remove Trump?
I think etcetera still clings to some fantasy dream of it happening.
mugwurt said:
Do our resident concerned moderates actually think there is a snowball's chance in hell the Senate will remove Trump?
Or you could look at the actions taken by Trump, Giuliani, Sondland, and Mulvaney and ascertain: do their actions match up with Trump's and Mulvaney's denials, or do their actions match the incriminating admissions they made? The aid was held back by Mulvaney on Trump's order, Giuliani's meetings and texts, Trump making the quid pro quo in the phone call.BQ78 said:
That's a foolproof prosecution method. He said X so it was X. He said Y so he really meant X.
Guilty either way, right?
eric76 said there was a 25% chance that the senate would vote for removal.mugwurt said:
Do our resident concerned moderates actually think there is a snowball's chance in hell the Senate will remove Trump?
BadMoonRisin said:eric76 said there was a 25% chance that the senate would vote for removal.mugwurt said:
Do our resident concerned moderates actually think there is a snowball's chance in hell the Senate will remove Trump?
Bo continues to cling to the Republican theory that: "Since the Senate R's won't convict, therefore the impeachment investigation isn't important to the American people."Bo Darville said:mugwurt said:
Do our resident concerned moderates actually think there is a snowball's chance in hell the Senate will remove Trump?
I think etcetera still clings to some fantasy dream of it happening.
I think recent polls make it clear that the impeachment investigation isn't important to the American people...MetoliusAg said:Bo continues to cling to the Republican theory that: "Since the Senate R's won't convict, therefore the impeachment investigation isn't important to the American people."Bo Darville said:mugwurt said:
Do our resident concerned moderates actually think there is a snowball's chance in hell the Senate will remove Trump?
I think etcetera still clings to some fantasy dream of it happening.
MetoliusAg said:Bo continues to cling to the Republican theory that: "Since the Senate R's won't convict, therefore the impeachment investigation isn't important to the American people."Bo Darville said:mugwurt said:
Do our resident concerned moderates actually think there is a snowball's chance in hell the Senate will remove Trump?
I think etcetera still clings to some fantasy dream of it happening.
Riiiiight.Quote:
I think recent polls make it clear that the impeachment investigation isn't important to the American people...
I feel the same way every time you and your ilk try to manufacture a smoking gun crime committed by the POTUS...MetoliusAg said:Riiiiight.Quote:
I think recent polls make it clear that the impeachment investigation isn't important to the American people...
Keep clinging to that theory, Bo.Quote:Ya, that's kinda the whole point of impeachment. If the high crime or misdemeanor is that apparent there should be some reasonable chance he's removed. In this case it's 0% so it's completely pointless and just a dog and pony show.Quote:
Bo continues to cling to the Republican theory that: "Since the Senate R's won't convict, therefore the impeachment investigation isn't important to the American people."
captkirk said:
There was no high crime or misdemeanor
Then the Potus should let his WH, State Dept, OMB, and NSC subordinates testify, right? They'll back him and Mulvaney and Rudy G. up, right?captkirk said:
There was no high crime or misdemeanor
MetoliusAg said:Keep clinging to that theory, Bo.Quote:Ya, that's kinda the whole point of impeachment. If the high crime or misdemeanor is that apparent there should be some reasonable chance he's removed. In this case it's 0% so it's completely pointless and just a dog and pony show.Quote:
Bo continues to cling to the Republican theory that: "Since the Senate R's won't convict, therefore the impeachment investigation isn't important to the American people."
Just like Obama let them talk in the whole Fast and Furious thing, right?MetoliusAg said:Then the Potus should let his WH, State Dept, OMB, and NSC subordinates testify, right? They'll back him and Mulvaney and Rudy G. up, right?captkirk said:
There was no high crime or misdemeanor
As you will keep clinging to the theory that somehow, some way, orange man did SOMETHING bad and will eventually be removed...MetoliusAg said:Keep clinging to that theory, Bo.Quote:Ya, that's kinda the whole point of impeachment. If the high crime or misdemeanor is that apparent there should be some reasonable chance he's removed. In this case it's 0% so it's completely pointless and just a dog and pony show.Quote:
Bo continues to cling to the Republican theory that: "Since the Senate R's won't convict, therefore the impeachment investigation isn't important to the American people."
History shows the opposite, Bo.Bo Darville said:captkirk said:
There was no high crime or misdemeanor
Exactly my point. A true high crime or misdemeanor would easily coalesce enough people to consider removing him early in the process to make it worthwhile.
And right now if memory serves me in the new rules released last week, if he does claim Executive Privilege on anything, the House (Schiff/Pelosi/Nadler) won't let his lawyer in the room.FireAg said:Just like Obama let them talk in the whole Fast and Furious thing, right?MetoliusAg said:Then the Potus should let his WH, State Dept, OMB, and NSC subordinates testify, right? They'll back him and Mulvaney and Rudy G. up, right?captkirk said:
There was no high crime or misdemeanor
To my knowledge, Trump has yet to claim EP in order to hide the facts...
Keep trying, bro...your attempts are quite entertaining...
MetoliusAg said:History shows the opposite, Bo.Bo Darville said:captkirk said:
There was no high crime or misdemeanor
Exactly my point. A true high crime or misdemeanor would easily coalesce enough people to consider removing him early in the process to make it worthwhile.
Interesting comparison.FireAg said:
They had TAPES on Nixon...where is the hard evidence on Trump?
There is none...AT ALL...
Look bro, we all know what the next card to be played will be in this...it's already been telegraphed...
Once Ukraine fails, next up will be tax returns...
We get it...
I get what you're saying but why should Trump agree to play the games that democrats want him to play? You know full well that democrats would be acting the same way, as they did with Clinton, if the roles were reversed.MetoliusAg said:Then the Potus should let his WH, State Dept, OMB, and NSC subordinates testify, right? They'll back him and Mulvaney and Rudy G. up, right?captkirk said:
There was no high crime or misdemeanor
nmag34 said:Interesting comparison.FireAg said:
They had TAPES on Nixon...where is the hard evidence on Trump?
There is none...AT ALL...
Look bro, we all know what the next card to be played will be in this...it's already been telegraphed...
Once Ukraine fails, next up will be tax returns...
We get it...
Nixon, like Trump, provided edited transcripts to Congress until the Supreme Court ordered him to release the tapes.
These will be open hearings so Republicans get equal time. Taylor will likely implicate Schiff and his staffer, Eager, under cross.Rapier108 said:So he's bringing back the same people again, will block any Republican questions that disrupt his narrative, and will then claim they have all the "proof" they need because of the "witnesses'" opinions.will25u said:
The rules they voted on say Schiff can block any question the Republicans ask, and no doubt he will.aggiehawg said:These will be open hearings so Republicans get equal time. Taylor will likely implicate Schiff and his staffer, Eager, under cross.Rapier108 said:So he's bringing back the same people again, will block any Republican questions that disrupt his narrative, and will then claim they have all the "proof" they need because of the "witnesses'" opinions.will25u said:
That's the way I think it will play out. He's going to try to shut down lines of questioning that go to these witnesses motives and potential loyalties and backgrounds which to me is highly relevant.Rapier108 said:So he's bringing back the same people again, will block any Republican questions that disrupt his narrative, and will then claim they have all the "proof" they need because of the "witnesses'" opinions.will25u said:
A majority of the American people don't see this impeachment investigation as pointless, Bo.Bo Darville said:MetoliusAg said:Keep clinging to that theory, Bo.Quote:Ya, that's kinda the whole point of impeachment. If the high crime or misdemeanor is that apparent there should be some reasonable chance he's removed. In this case it's 0% so it's completely pointless and just a dog and pony show.Quote:
Bo continues to cling to the Republican theory that: "Since the Senate R's won't convict, therefore the impeachment investigation isn't important to the American people."
It's a fact. Impeachment is meant to remove a president. That's not a theory. It's fact. Theres 0.0% chance this happens. So what's the point? If any DA in the country knows there's zero chance he's getting a conviction he doesn't bring a case because he knows it's pointless.
FIFYMetoliusAg said:A majority ofBo Darville said:MetoliusAg said:Keep clinging to that theory, Bo.Quote:Ya, that's kinda the whole point of impeachment. If the high crime or misdemeanor is that apparent there should be some reasonable chance he's removed. In this case it's 0% so it's completely pointless and just a dog and pony show.Quote:
Bo continues to cling to the Republican theory that: "Since the Senate R's won't convict, therefore the impeachment investigation isn't important to the American people."
It's a fact. Impeachment is meant to remove a president. That's not a theory. It's fact. Theres 0.0% chance this happens. So what's the point? If any DA in the country knows there's zero chance he's getting a conviction he doesn't bring a case because he knows it's pointless.the American peopleDemocrats don't see this impeachment investigation as pointless, Bo.