***** OFFICIAL TRUMP IMPEACHMENT THREAD *****

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Anything outside the four corners of the actual transcript is meaningless political bullsheet.

Let them bring in 100 more whistle blowers. Unless they can show the transcript has been materially modified to conceal illegal acts, their individual and collective testimonies add nothing to the impeachment inquiry.
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SA68AG said:

Anything outside the four corners of the actual transcript is meaningless political bullsheet.

Let them bring in 100 more whistle blowers. Unless they can show the transcript has been materially modified to conceal illegal acts, their individual and collective testimonies add nothing to the impeachment inquiry.
Well said.

And assertion of Executive Privilege is not obstruction and no adverse inference can be drawn by that assertion. That's just a flat out lie that Schiff, Cummings and Pelosi are peddling.
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will25u said:


Depending on what kind of pressure was exerted, I'd think this was illegal
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captkirk said:

will25u said:


Depending on what kind of pressure was exerted, I'd think this was illegal
Just money. Steyer probably said he would bankroll a primary opponent if she didn't go along. Typical sleaze but not illegal.
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Doesn't she hold a seat held by her husband and before him, his father? Should she be scared of a primary?
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Rick Perry swinging back?

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Is he impeached yet?
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TruckGuy said:

Rick Perry swinging back?



HAHA please please let dems pounce on this, that it would be terrible for people related to the administration to take money from Ukrainian gas companies.

Biden is done.
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hbtheduce said:

TruckGuy said:

Rick Perry swinging back?



HAHA please please let dems pounce on this, that it would be terrible for people related to the administration to take money from Ukrainian gas companies.

Biden is done.

Watch the Glen Beck video... there's a lot more to Ukraine than what Joe Biden did.. like hiding and embezzlement of billions of dollars handed over to the Ukraine from the Obama administration... Glen says Soros is all over this too, Dems want Joe to take the fall and for this to go away... will Trump, Rudy, DOJ, NSA all let this go?
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I wonder how many elected officials are former CIA. Just in Congress it seems there are tons of folks who run as former CIA as if that makes them a hero.
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brownbrick said:

I wonder how many elected officials are former CIA. Just in Congress it seems there are tons of folks who run as former CIA as if that makes them a hero.
Most of them are Democrats.
"If you will not fight for right when you can easily win without blood shed; if you will not fight when your victory is sure and not too costly; you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance of survival. There may even be a worse case. You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves." - Sir Winston Churchill
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TruckGuy said:

Rick Perry swinging back?


The AP trying to create something that isn't there.

The President has no control if people who have supported him are doing business in Ukraine. Some of them have been doing business with Ukraine since before Trump announced he was running for President.
"If you will not fight for right when you can easily win without blood shed; if you will not fight when your victory is sure and not too costly; you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance of survival. There may even be a worse case. You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves." - Sir Winston Churchill
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https://thefederalist.com/2019/10/07/intel-community-ig-stonewalling-congress-on-backdated-whistleblower-rule-changes/

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In tense testimony before the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence (HPSCI) on Friday, the inspector general for federal spy agencies refused to disclose why his office backdated secret changes to key whistleblower forms and rules in the wake of an anti-Trump whistleblower complaint filed in August, sources told The Federalist.

As The Federalist reported and the Intelligence Community Inspector General (ICIG) confirmed, the spy watchdog secretly changed its whistleblower forms and internal rules in September to eliminate a requirement that whistleblowers provide first-hand evidence to support any allegations of wrongdoing. In a press release last week, the ICIG confessed that it changed its rules in response to an anti-Trump complaint filed on August 12. That complaint, which was declassified and released by President Donald Trump in September, was based entirely on second-hand information, much of which was shown to be false following the declassification and release of a telephone conversation between Trump and Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky.

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It's 9:09 AM on October 7, 2019 and Donald J. Trump is STILL the POTUS.
Covidians, Communists, CNN, FOX, and all other MSM are enemies of the state and should be treated as such.
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It's 11:35 AM on October 8, 2019 and Donald J. Trump is STILL the POTUS.
Covidians, Communists, CNN, FOX, and all other MSM are enemies of the state and should be treated as such.
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https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/10/07/democrats-in-red-states-having-a-rough-time-defending-impeachment-back-home/

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House Democrats in red states who have come out in support of impeachment are having a rough time defending their decision back home.

Democrats who are back home for two weeks in districts that supported President Trump in 2016 are having to answer questions on impeachment whether they like it or not.

At one town hall, Illinois, Rep. Sean Casten (D-IL) was confronted by a woman who "tore into" House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) and House Intelligence Committee Chairman Adam Schiff (D-CA), accusing them of "lying their little butts off," according to a report by Politico.

She said the whistleblower complaint "looks like a bunch of 13-year-old girls gossiping."
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It's 11:36 AM on October 8, 2019 and Donald J. Trump is STILL the POTUS.
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Which is why they won't put a vote on paper.
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All because of 2016.....good grief.
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nu awlins ag said:

All because of 2016.....good grief.
......and because they can. Since so few are interested in political punishment for malfeasance, it will continue, and maybe even accelerate.
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mazzag said:

Doesn't she hold a seat held by her husband and before him, his father? Should she be scared of a primary?
Yeah a Dingell has held that seat for 86 years. But if a billionaire wants to back a primary opponent unless she toes the line, ignore it at her peril. She's only been there since the 2014 mid-terms.
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Rep. Zeldin Slams Dems On Impeachment: "This Entire Thing Is A Political Charade"

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Debunked by transcript, extreme, made up hyperbole.
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will25u said:


"visibly shaken" Dem party hack confirmed.
My pronouns are AFUERA/AHORA!
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If true, this is rather disturbing.

https://buffalochronicle.com/2019/09/26/bolton-contacted-whistleblower-prior-to-filing-complaint-suggesting-an-attempted-coup/

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In the hours after National Security Advisor John Bolton was fired by President Donald Trump on September 10th, he immediately began calling longtime political operatives in Washington, DC, sources tell The Chronicle. Many of those calls were made to Democrats and many of them in the national security establishment.

One of those contacts was the intelligence agency whistleblower who filed the now-famous complaint pertaining to the President's call with President Volodymyr Zelensky of Ukraine, that is now the subject of intense congressional scrutiny. That complaint was filed only weeks before, on August 12th. The source alleges that the whistleblower was given the information that comprises the contents of his complaint from Bolton himself, which if true would constitute an extraordinary breach of national security and an indictable offense punishable by imprisonment.

"It's go time," he began those conversations, multiple sources tell The Chronicle, as if to suggest that Bolton's patience with the President had worn thin, and even implying later in more than one conversation that a faction of neo-conservatives at the Central Intelligence Agency was ready to remove the President from office.
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Proc92 said:

Debunked by transcript, extreme, made up hyperbole.
No kidding. How could any objective person use the terms "crazy" and "frightening" and be "visibly shaken." by the conversation transcribed in the transcript ?

More Fake News headline hyperbole.
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will25u said:


Will Drudge highlight this finally? Hmm...
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will25u said:

If true, this is rather disturbing.

https://buffalochronicle.com/2019/09/26/bolton-contacted-whistleblower-prior-to-filing-complaint-suggesting-an-attempted-coup/

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In the hours after National Security Advisor John Bolton was fired by President Donald Trump on September 10th, he immediately began calling longtime political operatives in Washington, DC, sources tell The Chronicle. Many of those calls were made to Democrats and many of them in the national security establishment.

One of those contacts was the intelligence agency whistleblower who filed the now-famous complaint pertaining to the President's call with President Volodymyr Zelensky of Ukraine, that is now the subject of intense congressional scrutiny. That complaint was filed only weeks before, on August 12th. The source alleges that the whistleblower was given the information that comprises the contents of his complaint from Bolton himself, which if true would constitute an extraordinary breach of national security and an indictable offense punishable by imprisonment.

"It's go time," he began those conversations, multiple sources tell The Chronicle, as if to suggest that Bolton's patience with the President had worn thin, and even implying later in more than one conversation that a faction of neo-conservatives at the Central Intelligence Agency was ready to remove the President from office.

This is LITERALLY the definition of a coup...
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will25u said:

If true, this is rather disturbing.

https://buffalochronicle.com/2019/09/26/bolton-contacted-whistleblower-prior-to-filing-complaint-suggesting-an-attempted-coup/

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In the hours after National Security Advisor John Bolton was fired by President Donald Trump on September 10th, he immediately began calling longtime political operatives in Washington, DC, sources tell The Chronicle. Many of those calls were made to Democrats and many of them in the national security establishment.

One of those contacts was the intelligence agency whistleblower who filed the now-famous complaint pertaining to the President's call with President Volodymyr Zelensky of Ukraine, that is now the subject of intense congressional scrutiny. That complaint was filed only weeks before, on August 12th. The source alleges that the whistleblower was given the information that comprises the contents of his complaint from Bolton himself, which if true would constitute an extraordinary breach of national security and an indictable offense punishable by imprisonment.

"It's go time," he began those conversations, multiple sources tell The Chronicle, as if to suggest that Bolton's patience with the President had worn thin, and even implying later in more than one conversation that a faction of neo-conservatives at the Central Intelligence Agency was ready to remove the President from office.

The Buffalo Chronicle isn't exactly the most reliable news source.
"If you will not fight for right when you can easily win without blood shed; if you will not fight when your victory is sure and not too costly; you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance of survival. There may even be a worse case. You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves." - Sir Winston Churchill
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I have run out of words to use to describe the media, but the fact that they are just ignoring the fact that the transcript has been released is... Well, something.

It's like if there was video of a murder and the judge refused to watch it and just focused on witness accounts instead.

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