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opk
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The philosopher Franz Kafka wrote that there are many paths that lead to the castle. His idea is an important one, especially in our diverse and multicultural world.


I grew up in a culture where questioning was important and encouraged. And I grew up at a time when many people encouraged us to question and challenge authority. I still believe that questioning is critical and that there are many acceptable paths and beliefs.

I certainly do not believe in truth with a capital "T."

Physics teaches us that everything is relative. It is not for me to tell anyone that there is only one Truth. In fact, whenever I hear a person say that, I know that he is weak in his thinking and simply wrong.

That person's strength comes from negating others rather than seeing the intrinsic truth in various paths and beliefs. Weak people fail to see the bigger picture and think that they are the only ones who are right and everyone else is wrong.

Judaism is not an exclusionist religion. We accept that there are other paths and beliefs. We do not proselytize. We hope that Jews will remain Jewish and find meaning and holiness in our way of living.

We also hope that others will find the same satisfaction in their way of life and in their belief system.

Judaism does believe in a life after death or in a heaven and we believe that all people go to heaven if they have lived a good life, not if they believe in a particular truth.

Jesus was a Jew and he died like a Jew. He was crucified on a cross by the Romans, as were many Jewish dissidents at the time. Christianity is a religion with its roots in Judaism and with its roots in Jesus, a Jewish man. The Christian Bible includes the Jewish Bible, what Christians call the Old Testament. Jews do not have a New Testament so we do not have an Old Testament. We have our Bible. The traditions and beliefs of Judaism are independent of Christianity. However, Christianity is rooted in Judaism.

The Catholic Church under Pope John Paul II has made remarkable progress in acknowledging Judaism as an ancient and contemporary religion and people, deserving of recognition and understanding for all that Judaism is historically, religiously and theologically.

Our unique beliefs and way of life have made for a very special history for ourselves as Jews and have also parented the two other major monotheistic religions, Christianity and Islam.

Not every religion can be right for everyone. Judaism is right for me. We all hope in life that we will find our "way," our "tao," our path. There is a marketplace of ideas and paths and ways out there, all competing and often fighting with each other.

If only we could accept that finding our own way leads to personal satisfaction and peace and that accepting others for who they are leads to world peace and understanding. Not all of us insist that we are right. Many affirm that there are many truths, that personal truths are relative and that there are many ways people find to a life of meaning and holiness.

The great Rabbi Hillel, who lived just before the time of Jesus and was very likely an important influence on Jesus' thinking, wrote, "If I am not for myself, who will be for me; if I am only for myself, what am I, and, if not now, when?" Hillel understood and taught how important it is to be the person who we are intrinsically and to grow into and live a fulfilling life.

Yet that alone is not enough, for we must also be a part of something larger than ourselves. We must also have a positive influence on others, our significant others, our family, our children, our community, our world. And, yes, the time to act is now.

Our world is a fragile place, and unfortunately it is filled with a minority of people who believe that their way is the only way.

We must remain vigilant in our struggle to maintain minority rights, to affirm the value of each individual, and to understand the beauty and meaning in not only how we live our lives, but also in how others live their lives.

There are many paths that lead to the castle. And, in that castle, many very different people sit in peace.

If only we could make our world that castle of peace.


Rabbi Barry Krieger is the rabbinic facilitator for the Hillel organization at the University of Maine in Orono.
Football&Finance
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Physics teaches us that everything is relative


physis also teaches that there will eventually be one Grand Unified Theory that will be able to explain and predict everything.
Notafraid
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quote:

It is not for me to tell anyone that there is only one Truth. In fact, whenever I hear a person say that, I know that he is weak in his thinking and simply wrong.



Ok, so he tries to tell us that there are no absolute truths, but then he declares that if someone appeals to an absolute truth, then he absolutely knows that they are wrong. Thus appealing to an absolute truth himself. Here he displays an absolutly absurd worldview. It is presented in such a profound manor, and “I know best” snobbery. There is no doubt that this is the typical intellectual elite liberal class, or at least a wanna-be. Us dumb ol' Texas hicks jus' can't keep up wif em'!
opk
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Our world is a fragile place, and unfortunately it is filled with a minority of people who believe that their way is the only way.

We must affirm the value of each individual and understand the beauty and meaning in not only how we live our lives, but also in how others live their lives.

There are many paths that lead to the castle. And, in that castle, many very different people sit in peace



Notafraid
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You aren't going to break into "We are the World" are you?
opk
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Not unless you break out "Tomorrow the world belongs to us".
Notafraid
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What, a jovial touché? I love it!

OSAg01
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opk,

You mentioned that the Jews believe in only the Old Testament or "Old Covenant". What is the Jewish take on Jeremiah 31:30-34 and Ezekial 11:18-21 when God speaks of a New Covenant? Has that happened yet? If so, when did it occur? If not, are you still anticipating that?
Orphan
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God's House truly has many rooms. Have we invented the problem of arguing over who's room is the cleanest? (Greatheart...this is a rhetorical question)

Sonny, is the writer implyin that the meek shall truly inherit the Earth? Or is my connection of weak with meek erroneous?

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opk
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OsAg:

Jeremiah's use of the term (brit hadashah), a new covenant, does not involve the replacement of the Torah, which is eternal. Rather, it signals a renewal of the original Sinai covenant, which was declared to be everlasting, through its placement within us along with the (sefer ha'brit), the Book of the Covenant, to make them an inseparable part of the Jewish way of life. The term (brit hadashah), a new covenant, would be meaningless in any context other than one that describes the revitalized original Sinai covenant, along with the Torah, which cannot be replaced, superseded, or rescinded.

A correct reading and understanding of the Hebrew text shows unequivocally that Jeremiah 31:30-36 is not a prophecy that was fulfilled during the first century C.E., or at any other time in the past. Rather, it is a prophecy that is yet to be fulfilled, one that will be fulfilled in the messianic era. This passage contains two significant messianic agenda items, i.e., messianic prophecies, which are yet to be fulfilled: the ingathering and restoration of the Jewish People to the Land of Israel, and the existence of a state of the universal knowledge of G-d.

[C/P from messiahtruth.com]

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Sonny, is the writer implying that the meek shall truly inherit the Earth? Or is my connection of weak with meek erroneous?

David, I went back and re-read the article and I didn't find that. Can you point me to the portion to which you refer?




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opk
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OsAG01,

In re: references to Old Testament/New Testament
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Christianity is a religion with its roots in Judaism and with its roots in Jesus, a Jewish man. The Christian Bible includes the Jewish Bible, what Christians call the Old Testament. Jews do not have a New Testament so we do not have an Old Testament. We have our Bible. The traditions and beliefs of Judaism are independent of Christianity. However, Christianity is rooted in Judaism.



The common use of OT has become an easy way of distinguishing between the two, however we refer to it as Torah, or the all inclusive acronym, Tanach, which includes Torah, Prophets, and "the writings", or simply the Hebrew Bible.
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Rather, it is a prophecy that is yet to be fulfilled, one that will be fulfilled in the messianic era.


opk, We are in the messianic era as Christ was the perfect sacrificial lamb, the true High Priest, his flesh was torn as was the veil, and we can therefore enter into the Holy of Holies and stand confidently before God. He is the living bread represented in the tabernacle as the showbread, he is the light of the world represented in the tabernacle as the candles, he is our intercessor represented in the tabernacle as the altar of incense, he is the door and the gate into the tabernacle itself. He is the Messiah that the prophets spoke about. He was a Jew in the lineage of David, born in Bethlehem. He was pierced for our transgressions as Isaiah foretold and bruised for our iniquities, like a lamb led to the slaughter. He died because you and I cannot fulfill the laws of the Old Covenant. When the covenant was given by Moses to the people they all said "We will do everything the Lord has commanded". God gave this covenant KNOWING that it could not be upheld by Israel. Therefore, he promised a new covenant (foretold by your prophets) to write His words on their hearts and replace their hearts of stone with hearts of flesh to ensure that they would remain faithful. The purpose of the Law was to CONVICT, to show our need for a saviour.

You will NEVER be able to keep the requirements of the Torah. Thus, the need for the New Covenant. It was God's plan all along. Abraham had FAITH and it was credited to him as righteousness. Righteousness cannot be obtained thru the law. It merely points out our UNrighteousness.
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a new covenant, does not involve the replacement of the Torah, which is eternal.


If I might add, Jesus never replaced the Law, if that is what you are saying, but He fulfilled it.

Also, the Promise was to Abraham and His seed. That is the Old Covenant. The law was added later, and did not invalidate that… Here is an expert in Judaic Hebrew, Paul, explaining it.

Galatians 3:1 O foolish Galatians! Who has bewitched you? It was before your eyes that Jesus Christ was publicly portrayed as crucified. 2Let me ask you only this: Did you receive the Spirit by works of the law or by hearing with faith? 3Are you so foolish? Having begun by the Spirit, are you now being perfected by the flesh? 4Did you suffer so many things in vain--if indeed it was in vain? 5Does he who supplies the Spirit to you and works miracles among you do so by works of the law, or by hearing with faith-- 6just as Abraham "believed God, and it was counted to him as righteousness"?


7Know then that it is those of faith who are the sons of Abraham. 8And the Scripture, foreseeing that God would justify the Gentiles by faith, preached the gospel beforehand to Abraham, saying, "In you shall all the nations be blessed." 9So then, those who are of faith are blessed along with Abraham, the man of faith.



The Righteous Shall Live by Faith
10For all who rely on works of the law are under a curse; for it is written, "Cursed be everyone who does not abide by all things written in the Book of the Law, and do them." 11Now it is evident that no one is justified before God by the law, for "The righteous shall live by faith." 12But the law is not of faith, rather "The one who does them shall live by them." 13Christ redeemed us from the curse of the law by becoming a curse for us--for it is written, "Cursed is everyone who is hanged on a tree"-- 14so that in Christ Jesus the blessing of Abraham might come to the Gentiles, so that we might receive the promised Spirit through faith.


The Law and the Promise
15To give a human example, brothers: even with a man-made covenant, no one annuls it or adds to it once it has been ratified. 16Now the promises were made to Abraham and to his offspring. It does not say, "And to offsprings," referring to many, but referring to one, "And to your offspring," who is Christ. 17This is what I mean: the law, which came 430 years afterward, does not annul a covenant previously ratified by God, so as to make the promise void. 18For if the inheritance comes by the law, it no longer comes by promise; but God gave it to Abraham by a promise.


19Why then the law? It was added because of transgressions, until the offspring should come to whom the promise had been made, and it was put in place through angels by an intermediary. 20Now an intermediary implies more than one, but God is one.



21Is the law then contrary to the promises of God? Certainly not! For if a law had been given that could give life, then righteousness would indeed be by the law. 22But the Scripture imprisoned everything under sin, so that the promise by faith in Jesus Christ might be given to those who believe.



23Now before faith came, we were held captive under the law, imprisoned until the coming faith would be revealed. 24So then, the law was our guardian until Christ came, in order that we might be justified by faith. 25But now that faith has come, we are no longer under a guardian, 26for in Christ Jesus you are all sons of God, through faith. 27For as many of you as were baptized into Christ have put on Christ. 28There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free, there is neither male nor female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus. 29And if you are Christ's, then you are Abraham's offspring, heirs according to promise.



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opk
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OsAg01:
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opk, We are in the messianic era
Well, obviously this is where we diverge. You, (i.e. Christians) are, according to your belief system, in the messianic era. We, i.e. those of the Jewish faith, are not in the messianic era. Yet.

You are certainly entitled to believe as you believe, and I respect that. However, I do not share those beliefs. Pretty simple.

fahraint
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opk...I for one am glad you post here! I appreciate your insight, and your faithfulness to Judaism. I am a Christian, and understand my roots are in Judaism. Today I was thinking...faithful Jews are looking forward, faithful Christians are looking back.....but, the same goal is in sight!
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opk...I for one am glad you post here!

Same here. I only wish that you would post more often.
Guadaloop474
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opk - Do you consider Abraham's task of sacrificing Isaac, his only son, a forerunner or biblical type of God sacrificing His only Son in the NT? Both Isaac and Jesus carried wood on their back while trudging up a hill, and both were only sons.

opk
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fahraint, jkag89: Aw....shucks. I appreciate the kind words.

Stay tuned.

Texasag73: In a word: No.

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