Are Hurricanes divine retribution for sin?

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Guadaloop474
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"Prayers" ask hurricanes to avoid Central Florida


A Catholic bishop holds a special Mass on the first day of storm season to pray for public safety.


By Mark I. Pinsky | Sentinel Staff Writer
Posted June 2, 2005


Bishop Thomas Wenski lost no time preparing for hurricane season, which began Wednesday. He led a special Roman Catholic Mass to protect Central Florida from devastating storms.

The number of worshipers at the noon service in St. James Cathedral was slightly higher than normal for a weekday -- and included Orlando Mayor Buddy Dyer, who is not Catholic.

"We're making all the necessary preparations . . . and I certainly believe in the power of prayer," Dyer said.

Weather, natural disasters and faith were threads woven through the service, sometimes lightheartedly. Rain was falling, and Wenski suggested that an appropriate hymn might be "Singin' in the Rain."

As he began the service, Wenski prayed, "Today, as we begin a new hurricane season, we unite in prayer asking God to avert any storms from inflicting harm on us or our loved ones. . . . We ask the Lord to keep those hurricanes as far away from us as possible, and that he keep us as close as possible to him."

The Scripture reading was from the Gospel of Mark, 4:35-41, in which Jesus is awakened by a violent squall while sailing with the Apostles on the Sea of Galilee. He rebukes the wind and orders the sea to be still.

In another biblical reference, Wenski cited the death of innocents when the tower of Siloam collapsed, and compared it with the damage done by hurricanes and tsunamis.

"Jesus warns us not to see these events as somehow the wrath of an angry God," Wenski said.

Not all religious leaders agree.

In 1985, televangelist Pat Robertson asked his supporters to pray for God to steer Hurricane Gloria away from the Virginia coast, home to his Christian Broadcasting Network. The storm veered harmlessly out to sea, and Robertson credited the prayers of his viewers.

When the Orlando City Council voted in 1998 to allow gay organizations to hang rainbow banners from municipal flagpoles to coincide with Gay Days, Robertson warned that the city was risking not only hurricanes, but also earthquakes and terrorist bombs.

Wenski distanced himself from the notion of weather as heavenly retribution.

"We don't have the same theology as Pat Robertson," Wenski said before the Mass. "Hurricanes are not a divine punishment."

In fact, sometimes the storms provide opportunities, he said. One of the good things that came out of last year's hurricanes, Wenski said, was a greater sense of community and generosity to others, including tsunami victims.

Before the hurricane Mass, Wenski presented a check for $792,480.32 for tsunami relief to a representative of Catholic Relief Services.

The check was the latest installment of nearly $1.5 million donated by Central Florida Catholics.

Wenski was unwilling to predict the exact outcome of the hurricane Mass.

Last year, the bishop also prayed publicly to spare Central Florida from more hurricanes -- just before another one hit.
Windy City Ag
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I always thought they were a byproduct of low pressure areas forming over the ocean.
Guadaloop474
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Coming from someone named Windy City, I would tend to agree with you....

However, there are numerous accounts in the Bible about God and weather - droughts, floods, etc. The question here is whether or not God is sending disasters on Florida because of sin...

My answer is I don't know, but I found the discussion to be interesting..
Orphan
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Nah...a natural occurrence. There are a lot of them in this world. No sense making a Theological crisis out of a hurricane.

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Bad_Putter
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Muslims believes the Tsunami was punishment from wayward Islam. Catholics believe hurricans are punishment from wayward Christians.

Tell me again, what is the difference between your invisible dieties?
Sink Maggots
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This is just plain ridiculous...
Cyprian
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Tell me again, what is the difference between your invisible dieties?

Doctrines of God are quite different. Muslims have traditionlly argued that trinitarianism leads to polytheism, and have huge hang-ups with the idea of God being able to take on human nature, while Christians typically counter the Muslim doctrine of God for being One to such extremes that it entails that God can't even know any particulars, which would be absurd. A good (& brief) discussion can be found in Jaroslav Pelikan's 2nd volume on the history of the development of christian doctrine.
Guadaloop474
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Catholics believe hurricans are punishment from wayward Christians.


Badputter - Where do you get that from? The article says otherwise - The Catholic Bishop says no, while Pat Robertson said yes...Pat Robertson is certainly not Catholic, and I know of no Catholic who believes that.
The Lone Stranger
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We are fallen creatures living in a fallen universe. Nature is no longer a perfect reflection of God's intention or nature, like us, it's flawed.

Do you thing Adam and Eve had to build a storm cellar in case of tornados?

After the fall, even his gardening efforts were effected.

It, literally, rains on the just and the unjust. To know if it's His judgment, I would have to recieve a specific Word from Him.
Ishmael-Ag
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The universe has always been a violent place with stars exploding and wiping out planets 24 hours a day. It's just made that way so why blame any natural phenomenon on devine retribution? Heck-we're all made from the stardust of exploded stars. All the heavy elements were manufactured by supernovae before they exploded.
Guadaloop474
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Jerry Falwell said that 9/11 was divine retribution for America's homosexuality, and I believe some preacher once said that AIDS was God's divine retribution for homosexuals...I don't believe any of that, but that is what some people really think....
BrazosBendHorn
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OK, by this line of reasoning, Oklahoma must be Sin Central in the continental United States, if not the world, by being in the heart of Tornado Alley and having a greater frequency of tornadoes per square mile than any other place on earth (although Dallas/Ft. Worth appears to run a close second!) Even more sinful than Las Vegas or New York! Imagine that!




yes, I know, we were talking about hurricanes, not tornadoes. But they are both cyclonic windstorms, and either one of them will ruin your day if you get caught by one of them ...

[This message has been edited by BrazosBendHorn (edited 6/3/2005 12:49p).]
Ishmael-Ag
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Well the sooners sure deserve it as well as all those transferred Yankees in D-FT.W.

Opps-I forgot. I'm married to a Yankee.
PurdueAg01
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I'd think that the Panhandle would be far darker than D/FW, but that's just because Baptists rule that part of the world.
Yahoodie
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As we have seen in recent years and everyday now in Iraq, terrorists kill indiscriminately in the name of their "cause". It matters not who dies, as long as they are members of a much larger targeted group. Someone as innocent as a newborn child could be one of their victims and they don't care.

To attribute the same methods to God whereby innocents are killed so that a point can be made is in my opinion nothing short of moronic. It never ceases to astonish me how otherwise intelligent people can forfeit their intelligence because of misguided teachings from misguided others.

I'm hopeful that they will someday begin to challenge their own beliefs and see the light.
Guadaloop474
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I vote for OU being the #1 hit site, with Lubbock a close #2...
Guadaloop474
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Has anyone taken into account that these hurricanes/storms/droughts/floods/earthquakes/name your favorite natural disaster could be from satan, rather than from a loving Father in Heaven?
BMX Bandit
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Everyone knows God hates the long lines and overpriced water at Disney World so he attempts, in vain, to destroy Florida every year.

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