Homeschooling

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PabloSerna
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" lack of fidelity to Church teaching have been rather common across the country."

Can you elaborate with some examples so I don't read into that more than intended.

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Dad of 8. All went to Catholic School (PreK - 8th grade). It goes without saying that these are the formative years in a child's life. That many on here are actively ensuring their kids and grandkids receive a solid academic education and some level of spiritual formation - we can all agree.

I have to agree with DermDoc that the socialization aspect is hit or miss. All 8 were offered the chance to continue Catholic HS, only one chose- our youngest Carlos who is the QB on his 6 man football team- they have a game in B-CS at 7pm. For the 7 that found themselves freshman in a public HS- they each stated it was a shock. We enrolled them in the early college, AP, Honor classes- and little by little they made the transition into what I say is a normal teenage life. They didn't lose their thirst for truth and knowledge that was a big part of their Catholic school years. They kept reading like always, but now they were joining the HS band, baseball, softball, student government, and other clubs. Almost everyone of them were part of the National Honor Society, which involved service projects. Only one of them kept doing Scouts, my daughter Cat, who was a youth staff leader at the Lost Pines Scout Reserve here in Bastrop TX.

I write this not so much to brag on them- but a little- but to say in my opinion that we as Americans need to put more effort into building up our public schools. Especially K-5th grade. We didn't live in Westlake or Lake Travis- it would have been Blackshear or Travis, schools that struggled. So, thank God, we sacrificed to send them all to the Cathedral School of Saint Mary, two blocks from the state capital. It was an inner city school, but became home to all the parents, staff, and clergy that made it go.

We stayed just as involved in public HS. That to me is one of the differences I saw. There are a lot of reasons mom or dad can't be involved- it takes a village.

Hope that helps in some way! All 8 went to college, well Carlos is on his way… to the evil empire if he gets his wish!

ETA: I meant to say something about their ongoing spiritual formation after Saint Mary's. It reminds me of the parable Jesus gave about the sower and the seeds. For some it fell on rocky ground, for others good soil. They are all still young adults, so this is an on going story, but- 7 of the 8 continued their faith formation with Sunday school, getting the sacrament of confirmation in their Junior year of HS. The one that didn't inherited her mom's stubbornness and refused to go and "kiss the ring". We pleaded, but it was a no-go. However, she is probably the one kiddo that asks the most deeply spiritual questions and has the strongest sense of her faith than the other 7. She got that from me!

A parent's job is never over. We pray daily for all and they agreed to go with mom and dad once a year to mass and receive communion. It was all I asked. We actually do that on Christmas and Easter at their church of choice - yup, the Cathedral of Saint Mary in downtown Austin!
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All kids and situations are different. I just pray that everyone finds the best path forward for their precious children.
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dermdoc said:

747Ag said:

dermdoc said:

Howdy, it is me! said:

dermdoc said:

I am still working at age 71 to pay for our grandkids to go to private Episcopal then Catholic schools. My daughter home schooled when they were younger but she and I agree they need more socialization than home schooling brings.

I'm sure you and her know best and I don't question your decisions for her children, but homeschooled children can have many means of socialization. I say this only so that readers don't take your comment as a blanket statement about homeschooling and believe the false stigmatization regarding socialization.

Fair enough. I stick by my statement. I have nothing against home schooling. Just don't think the socialization part can be the same without incredible effort. We will agree to disagree.

I guess it depends on what support groups/structure exist in a given area. My kids are not starved for social outlets. They have American Heritage Girls, Troops of St. George (previously did BSA and Trail Life), drama club, and martial arts. Not to mention all the time to hang out at special events or just after Holy Mass on Sundays. There was a time we participated in weekly or semi-weekly co-ops as well. I wouldn't call this incredible effort on our part, but perhaps this has been our norm for about 18 years, so... If I lived in a small town in Cooke County, TX, I imagine things might be a bit different.

Another thing to consider about socialization is that it cuts both ways. The kids might find great friends from families with similar values as yours. This is almost always excellent. However, there might kids in the classroom that might not be the best influence on your children. I know we ran into this issue with our time in the BSA. Opportunity for good conversations and teaching moments for sure. In our experience, our kids did learn how to interact more regularly with a wide range of age groups. Perhaps that's an oddity... if so, I'll take it.

My feeling is that they need to get exposed to bad stuff and recognize it for what it is. Because it is going to be there their entire life.


Perhaps we've all heard the age old tale of how a banker identifies counterfeit money? It's not by becoming familiar with the counterfeits but becoming intimately familiar with the real thing. This applied to truth and Jesus but I think it's applicable here as well. We don't need to expose children to the sinful and broken world to teach them how to interact and respond to it. We teach them truth, and light, and love. Then, when they do come across sin, they recognize it and know how to respond, not because they've been in that situation before, but because they see it for what it's not.

Every child and family is different and needs different things and I'd believe every one of us on this board with kids is doing the best we can. That said, I'm pretty passionate about combating homeschool stereotyping and stigmas.
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Howdy, it is me! said:

dermdoc said:

747Ag said:

dermdoc said:

Howdy, it is me! said:

dermdoc said:

I am still working at age 71 to pay for our grandkids to go to private Episcopal then Catholic schools. My daughter home schooled when they were younger but she and I agree they need more socialization than home schooling brings.

I'm sure you and her know best and I don't question your decisions for her children, but homeschooled children can have many means of socialization. I say this only so that readers don't take your comment as a blanket statement about homeschooling and believe the false stigmatization regarding socialization.

Fair enough. I stick by my statement. I have nothing against home schooling. Just don't think the socialization part can be the same without incredible effort. We will agree to disagree.

I guess it depends on what support groups/structure exist in a given area. My kids are not starved for social outlets. They have American Heritage Girls, Troops of St. George (previously did BSA and Trail Life), drama club, and martial arts. Not to mention all the time to hang out at special events or just after Holy Mass on Sundays. There was a time we participated in weekly or semi-weekly co-ops as well. I wouldn't call this incredible effort on our part, but perhaps this has been our norm for about 18 years, so... If I lived in a small town in Cooke County, TX, I imagine things might be a bit different.

Another thing to consider about socialization is that it cuts both ways. The kids might find great friends from families with similar values as yours. This is almost always excellent. However, there might kids in the classroom that might not be the best influence on your children. I know we ran into this issue with our time in the BSA. Opportunity for good conversations and teaching moments for sure. In our experience, our kids did learn how to interact more regularly with a wide range of age groups. Perhaps that's an oddity... if so, I'll take it.

My feeling is that they need to get exposed to bad stuff and recognize it for what it is. Because it is going to be there their entire life.


Perhaps we've all heard the age old tale of how a banker identifies counterfeit money? It's not by becoming familiar with the counterfeits but becoming intimately familiar with the real thing. This applied to truth and Jesus but I think it's applicable here as well. We don't need to expose children to the sinful and broken world to teach them how to interact and respond to it. We teach them truth, and light, and love. Then, when they do come across sin, they recognize it and know how to respond, not because they've been in that situation before, but because they see it for what it's not.

Every child and family is different and needs different things and I'd believe every one of us on this board with kids is doing the best we can. That said, I'm pretty passionate about combating homeschool stereotyping and stigmas.

I don't think our human nature works that way. Some of the wildest, most out of control teenagers and young adults I have been around were raised by preachers or holy rollers. We will agree to disagree. I am sure everyone in this thread is doing what is right for their kids.
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