Major update on life

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So, I know I'm rarely here, but wanted to give an update given how important this community has been since my undergrad days:

On Pentecost Sunday in 2024, I first visited an Orthodox Church. The day prior, I was at the local Pride festival. I was a prominent person in the LGBT community here in my city, so I had to go. It felt hollow to me that day. The next day, I visited an Antiochian Orthodox Church, and encountered God in a way I never had. That sent me down a path of exploration. But to properly explore, I had to do so with all things on the table.

I couldn't cling to parts of life if I truly wanted to be open to God transforming me. Then I went through my first Great Lent. Including the Canon of St Andrew of Crete / Life of St Mary of Egypt service. I left in tears. I then went to a Wednesday class and learned about the Orthodox view on the sanctity of the physical body.

The entire time, from Oct 2024 - today, I've been meeting with my priest. I was very open about the trans issue. They never once told me to detransition. They just encouraged me to participate in the life of the Church, and to be patient. To be silent. To listen for God. So I did. I had even approached my priest last September and said I was ready to detransition. He advised that I not make that decision yet.

See, he knows the enormity of the decision, and he knew that why I make the decision is important as well. He didn't want me to make that decision in order to become Orthodox. So I waited. I prayed for patience. I sought the intercession of the Theotokos, St. Mary of Egypt, and St Moses the Black. The more I didn't fixate on the trans issue, the more I felt like God was revealing something to me about it.

Well, that brings us to now. We are halfway through the Dormition Fast, as we commemorate the repose of the Mother of God. My wife and I (she is not in this journey into Orthodoxy with me, but still at her church) met with my priest near the end of July. Near the end, the conversation seemed to shift. I believe he was satisfied that my reason isn't simply to become Orthodox. The conversation shifted to "how" this will work. I told him my plan is to really try to use this Fast to silence the noise of life and to seek clarity. I believe I've reached that point.

So, my plan, as of right now, is to officially detransition on Aug 28. The Feast day of St Moses the Black, who one day will be my patron saint.

I know it won't be easy. I know the depression and dysphoria will be crouching at my door at all times. I don't dread that darkness anymore, though. In fact, the attacks actually have me excited because they are an opportunity and reminder to turn to God. Walking through life with that daily reminder to turn to Life...man, what a blessing. To find Life in the struggle.
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PacifistAg said:

So, I know I'm rarely here, but wanted to give an update given how important this community has been since my undergrad days:

On Pentecost Sunday in 2024, I first visited an Orthodox Church. The day prior, I was at the local Pride festival. I was a prominent person in the LGBT community here in my city, so I had to go. It felt hollow to me that day. The next day, I visited an Antiochian Orthodox Church, and encountered God in a way I never had. That sent me down a path of exploration. But to properly explore, I had to do so with all things on the table.

I couldn't cling to parts of life if I truly wanted to be open to God transforming me. Then I went through my first Great Lent. Including the Canon of St Andrew of Crete / Life of St Mary of Egypt service. I left in tears. I then went to a Wednesday class and learned about the Orthodox view on the sanctity of the physical body.

The entire time, from Oct 2024 - today, I've been meeting with my priest. I was very open about the trans issue. They never once told me to detransition. They just encouraged me to participate in the life of the Church, and to be patient. To be silent. To listen for God. So I did. I had even approached my priest last September and said I was ready to detransition. He advised that I not make that decision yet.

See, he knows the enormity of the decision, and he knew that why I make the decision is important as well. He didn't want me to make that decision in order to become Orthodox. So I waited. I prayed for patience. I sought the intercession of the Theotokos, St. Mary of Egypt, and St Moses the Black. The more I didn't fixate on the trans issue, the more I felt like God was revealing something to me about it.

Well, that brings us to now. We are halfway through the Dormition Fast, as we commemorate the repose of the Mother of God. My wife and I (she is not in this journey into Orthodoxy with me, but still at her church) met with my priest near the end of July. Near the end, the conversation seemed to shift. I believe he was satisfied that my reason isn't simply to become Orthodox. The conversation shifted to "how" this will work. I told him my plan is to really try to use this Fast to silence the noise of life and to seek clarity. I believe I've reached that point.

So, my plan, as of right now, is to officially detransition on Aug 28. The Feast day of St Moses the Black, who one day will be my patron saint.

I know it won't be easy. I know the depression and dysphoria will be crouching at my door at all times. I don't dread that darkness anymore, though. In fact, the attacks actually have me excited because they are an opportunity and reminder to turn to God. Walking through life with that daily reminder to turn to Life...man, what a blessing. To find Life in the struggle.

Love you my brother.
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Glory to God!
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You have an amazing testimony. And I appreciate you sharing it with us here.
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Yours is one of the most remarkable conversions I've ever read about. Your wife must be an amazing person. Deo gratias.
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Bob Lee said:

Yours is one of the most remarkable conversions I've ever read about. Your wife must be an amazing person. Deo gratias.

She really is. I wish she were coming into the Church with me, but she's a Deacon at her Reformed Church and our daughter is thriving there. But she's been amazing, and was actually the one most hesitant with detransition. That's because she remembers the depths of my pain before I transitioned. But she now sees the way He has changed me and how the Church is healing me.
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dermdoc said:

PacifistAg said:

So, I know I'm rarely here, but wanted to give an update given how important this community has been since my undergrad days:

On Pentecost Sunday in 2024, I first visited an Orthodox Church. The day prior, I was at the local Pride festival. I was a prominent person in the LGBT community here in my city, so I had to go. It felt hollow to me that day. The next day, I visited an Antiochian Orthodox Church, and encountered God in a way I never had. That sent me down a path of exploration. But to properly explore, I had to do so with all things on the table.

I couldn't cling to parts of life if I truly wanted to be open to God transforming me. Then I went through my first Great Lent. Including the Canon of St Andrew of Crete / Life of St Mary of Egypt service. I left in tears. I then went to a Wednesday class and learned about the Orthodox view on the sanctity of the physical body.

The entire time, from Oct 2024 - today, I've been meeting with my priest. I was very open about the trans issue. They never once told me to detransition. They just encouraged me to participate in the life of the Church, and to be patient. To be silent. To listen for God. So I did. I had even approached my priest last September and said I was ready to detransition. He advised that I not make that decision yet.

See, he knows the enormity of the decision, and he knew that why I make the decision is important as well. He didn't want me to make that decision in order to become Orthodox. So I waited. I prayed for patience. I sought the intercession of the Theotokos, St. Mary of Egypt, and St Moses the Black. The more I didn't fixate on the trans issue, the more I felt like God was revealing something to me about it.

Well, that brings us to now. We are halfway through the Dormition Fast, as we commemorate the repose of the Mother of God. My wife and I (she is not in this journey into Orthodoxy with me, but still at her church) met with my priest near the end of July. Near the end, the conversation seemed to shift. I believe he was satisfied that my reason isn't simply to become Orthodox. The conversation shifted to "how" this will work. I told him my plan is to really try to use this Fast to silence the noise of life and to seek clarity. I believe I've reached that point.

So, my plan, as of right now, is to officially detransition on Aug 28. The Feast day of St Moses the Black, who one day will be my patron saint.

I know it won't be easy. I know the depression and dysphoria will be crouching at my door at all times. I don't dread that darkness anymore, though. In fact, the attacks actually have me excited because they are an opportunity and reminder to turn to God. Walking through life with that daily reminder to turn to Life...man, what a blessing. To find Life in the struggle.

Love you my brother.

Same to you, brother. It's been a long path for me, but man,God is so good.
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I will add that I am sincerely sorry to all on here with whom I was abrasive, insulting, obscene, and hateful with over the years. MQB, redcrayon, Bustup, and any other I may have fallen short with. Whether you forgive me or not is up to you. But regardless, I am truly sorry.
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PacifistAg said:

I will add that I am sincerely sorry to all on here with whom I was abrasive, insulting, obscene, and hateful with over the years. MQB, redcrayon, Bustup, and any other I may have fallen short with. Whether you forgive me or not is up to you. But regardless, I am truly sorry.


Stay in the word, and stay in prayer. You apparently have people praying for you that you don't even realize. Keep Romans one in your heart. It's helped me many times, and I'm a straight white guy. But I would give Paul a run for his money as to who is the greatest sinner.
Acts 2:38
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Congrats on your decision, which sounds like you have fully explored. Hopefully the deep mysteries of Orthodoxy will continue to focus you and bring you the peace you deserve. Best of luck, and always enjoy reading your posts.
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What a wild journey. You've been graced with the truth and allowed it to work on you rather than redefine the truth for yourself. That is a grace. May God continue to protect you and your family.
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Truly amazing! I will keep you in my prayers! God is great and you are a powerful witness to his greatness! So happy for you and your family!
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PacifistAg said:


I know it won't be easy. I know the depression and dysphoria will be crouching at my door at all times. I don't dread that darkness anymore, though. In fact, the attacks actually have me excited because they are an opportunity and reminder to turn to God. Walking through life with that daily reminder to turn to Life...man, what a blessing. To find Life in the struggle.




"With God all things are possible" -Matt 19:26

Thank you for sharing your testimony. I am happy that God has led to a Christian community that can guide and support you in a journey towards glory to God and away from the pride of man. I am certain there will be dark days ahead and days in which you feel you have failed. That is a flaw we all share as humans. Know that in addition to your church community, you have a Aggie community praying for you in that "upward call of God".

"12 Not that I have already grasped it all or have already become perfect, but I press on if I may also take hold of that for which I was even taken hold of by Christ Jesus. 13 Brothers and sisters, I do not regard myself as having taken hold of it yet; but one thing I do: forgetting what lies behind and reaching forward to what lies ahead, 14 I press on toward the goal for the prize of the upward call of God in Christ Jesus." -Phil 3:12-14
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PacifistAg said:

Bob Lee said:

Yours is one of the most remarkable conversions I've ever read about. Your wife must be an amazing person. Deo gratias.

She really is. I wish she were coming into the Church with me, but she's a Deacon at her Reformed Church and our daughter is thriving there. But she's been amazing, and was actually the one most hesitant with detransition. That's because she remembers the depths of my pain before I transitioned. But she now sees the way He has changed me and how the Church is healing me.

What a saint! A female deacon at a Reformed church? Wow. Miracles do happen.
Love you man. So, so happy for you.
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PacifistAg said:

So, I know I'm rarely here, but wanted to give an update given how important this community has been since my undergrad days:

On Pentecost Sunday in 2024, I first visited an Orthodox Church. The day prior, I was at the local Pride festival. I was a prominent person in the LGBT community here in my city, so I had to go. It felt hollow to me that day. The next day, I visited an Antiochian Orthodox Church, and encountered God in a way I never had. That sent me down a path of exploration. But to properly explore, I had to do so with all things on the table.

I couldn't cling to parts of life if I truly wanted to be open to God transforming me. Then I went through my first Great Lent. Including the Canon of St Andrew of Crete / Life of St Mary of Egypt service. I left in tears. I then went to a Wednesday class and learned about the Orthodox view on the sanctity of the physical body.

The entire time, from Oct 2024 - today, I've been meeting with my priest. I was very open about the trans issue. They never once told me to detransition. They just encouraged me to participate in the life of the Church, and to be patient. To be silent. To listen for God. So I did. I had even approached my priest last September and said I was ready to detransition. He advised that I not make that decision yet.

See, he knows the enormity of the decision, and he knew that why I make the decision is important as well. He didn't want me to make that decision in order to become Orthodox. So I waited. I prayed for patience. I sought the intercession of the Theotokos, St. Mary of Egypt, and St Moses the Black. The more I didn't fixate on the trans issue, the more I felt like God was revealing something to me about it.

Well, that brings us to now. We are halfway through the Dormition Fast, as we commemorate the repose of the Mother of God. My wife and I (she is not in this journey into Orthodoxy with me, but still at her church) met with my priest near the end of July. Near the end, the conversation seemed to shift. I believe he was satisfied that my reason isn't simply to become Orthodox. The conversation shifted to "how" this will work. I told him my plan is to really try to use this Fast to silence the noise of life and to seek clarity. I believe I've reached that point.

So, my plan, as of right now, is to officially detransition on Aug 28. The Feast day of St Moses the Black, who one day will be my patron saint.

I know it won't be easy. I know the depression and dysphoria will be crouching at my door at all times. I don't dread that darkness anymore, though. In fact, the attacks actually have me excited because they are an opportunity and reminder to turn to God. Walking through life with that daily reminder to turn to Life...man, what a blessing. To find Life in the struggle.

In TexAgs speak, Blue Parachute!

As we Latins often say, Laudetur Jesus Christus!
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Will pray for your continued journey and a life of faith together for your family, wherever that may be.
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Glory to God!

Lord have mercy on PacifistAg, his family and all who are suffering.
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PacifistAg said:

I will add that I am sincerely sorry to all on here with whom I was abrasive, insulting, obscene, and hateful with over the years. MQB, redcrayon, Bustup, and any other I may have fallen short with. Whether you forgive me or not is up to you. But regardless, I am truly sorry.


No need to apologize to me! I've also fallen short while posting here. No hard feelings as far as I'm concerned.

I pray your journey continues to be guided by the Holy Spirit and that you and your family adjust well to your new life. Praise God that His mercies are new every morning. I need them more than anyone!
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I see this tragedy all around me, where people get more judgmental as they age. This hardness of heart dismays me. It is THE message of John 8.

I am here to listen and learn.
94chem,
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PacifistAg said:

I will add that I am sincerely sorry to all on here with whom I was abrasive, insulting, obscene, and hateful with over the years. MQB, redcrayon, Bustup, and any other I may have fallen short with. Whether you forgive me or not is up to you. But regardless, I am truly sorry.


Don't beat yourself up. Move forward. This board forgives and we ask for forgiveness.

Love your story and thanks for the update

Please be careful on the detransition. I hope you have professional therapeutic help along the way

All the best to you and yours
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Thank you. And yeah, I'm meeting regularly with my priest, therapist (my priest strongly encouraged that the entire family be in therapy), and medical doctor.
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Praying for you and where the Lord leads you.
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I hope you find the peace you've spent so much of your life searching for.
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Wonderful news! What journey indeed. God bless… brother.
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PacifistAg said:

So, I know I'm rarely here, but wanted to give an update given how important this community has been since my undergrad days:

On Pentecost Sunday in 2024, I first visited an Orthodox Church. The day prior, I was at the local Pride festival. I was a prominent person in the LGBT community here in my city, so I had to go. It felt hollow to me that day. The next day, I visited an Antiochian Orthodox Church, and encountered God in a way I never had. That sent me down a path of exploration. But to properly explore, I had to do so with all things on the table.

I couldn't cling to parts of life if I truly wanted to be open to God transforming me. Then I went through my first Great Lent. Including the Canon of St Andrew of Crete / Life of St Mary of Egypt service. I left in tears. I then went to a Wednesday class and learned about the Orthodox view on the sanctity of the physical body.

The entire time, from Oct 2024 - today, I've been meeting with my priest. I was very open about the trans issue. They never once told me to detransition. They just encouraged me to participate in the life of the Church, and to be patient. To be silent. To listen for God. So I did. I had even approached my priest last September and said I was ready to detransition. He advised that I not make that decision yet.

See, he knows the enormity of the decision, and he knew that why I make the decision is important as well. He didn't want me to make that decision in order to become Orthodox. So I waited. I prayed for patience. I sought the intercession of the Theotokos, St. Mary of Egypt, and St Moses the Black. The more I didn't fixate on the trans issue, the more I felt like God was revealing something to me about it.

Well, that brings us to now. We are halfway through the Dormition Fast, as we commemorate the repose of the Mother of God. My wife and I (she is not in this journey into Orthodoxy with me, but still at her church) met with my priest near the end of July. Near the end, the conversation seemed to shift. I believe he was satisfied that my reason isn't simply to become Orthodox. The conversation shifted to "how" this will work. I told him my plan is to really try to use this Fast to silence the noise of life and to seek clarity. I believe I've reached that point.

So, my plan, as of right now, is to officially detransition on Aug 28. The Feast day of St Moses the Black, who one day will be my patron saint.

I know it won't be easy. I know the depression and dysphoria will be crouching at my door at all times. I don't dread that darkness anymore, though. In fact, the attacks actually have me excited because they are an opportunity and reminder to turn to God. Walking through life with that daily reminder to turn to Life...man, what a blessing. To find Life in the struggle.


Wow. I'm very humbled by your honesty and your trust in God. I am praying for God's will in your life.
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I wish the very best God has to offer you on this remarkable journey. Praying the Psalms always helps when at life's crossroads.

PS: I hope you have found a career alternative to HR.
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UTExan said:

I wish the very best God has to offer you on this remarkable journey. Praying the Psalms always helps when at life's crossroads.

PS: I hope you have found a career alternative to HR.

Lol nope, I'm still in HR, but my last 2 stops have not gone well. Both were union environments. I learned that I'm too much of a hardliner for a union environment. In a much better place now. No union. But I wouldn't mind getting out of HR management.
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PacifistAg said:

UTExan said:

I wish the very best God has to offer you on this remarkable journey. Praying the Psalms always helps when at life's crossroads.

PS: I hope you have found a career alternative to HR.

Lol nope, I'm still in HR, but my last 2 stops have not gone well. Both were union environments. I learned that I'm too much of a hardliner for a union environment. In a much better place now. No union. But I wouldn't mind getting out of HR management.

Praying that God opens the right doors and closes the wrong ones. Trust Him.
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You have been on my mind since I read your message above. Please understand that I don't mean this to take away from anything you've written here, but there is something I hope you'll consider.

What has always struck me is how completely you commit yourself to a framework once it seems to make sense of the complexity, contradictions, and occasional absurdities of life.

There was the aggressive Christian soldier in the War on Terror. Then a form of Christian pacifism so absolute that, at least from where I sat, it required substantially reworking how you understood large portions of the Old Testament, among other practical considerations. Later came the LGBTQ+ identity and advocacy, which you seem to have embraced with much the same intensity. Eventually cracks appeared in each framework, and you moved somewhere else.

Looking at you from far outside, there seems to be a recurring pattern:

Previous me was deeply mistaken > now I understand why > this new framework explains both my suffering and my previous errors > eventually, this framework itself becomes part of the problem.

I'm not asking you to defend any of that here, or to publically sort through twenty years of your life for my benefit. I'm saying it as a brother in Christ and a fellow Aggie who remembers arguing with you on this board a long time ago.

I genuinely hope Orthodoxy brings you peace. I just hope that peace includes learning to live with some uncertainty, that you don't feel compelled to find a framework that finally reconciles everything, only to discover five or ten years from now that you need to tear that one down too.

We see in part, and we know in part. Maybe sometimes that has to be enough.
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Absolutely incredible. Your testimony is powerful.

I can't even begin to imagine your world and what you have gone through etc…

I'm so happy for you and I will pray for you.

I'm Antiochian Orthodox and would love to know where you attend to send prayers for your Priest as well. They sound very wise and I'm so glad they were there to assist you.

Thanks!



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Thanks. I'll shoot you a text in a bit. Got the number.
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Honestly, I think one of the things I love about Orthodoxy is the embrace of mystery. It is so unlike western thinking which is so rooted in reason and certainty. But heard about the throwing myself into things. This was honestly an initial concern of my wife. I have a history of going 100 mph with everything. Even my wife sees this is different. It's why I've so deeply appreciated the patience my priest has repeatedly encouraged.
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I scratching my head to think of anyone who may be applying this scripture better than you right now.

Romans 12;1 Therefore I urge you, brethren, by the mercies of God, to present your bodies a living and holy sacrifice, acceptable to God, which is your spiritual service of worship. 2 And do not be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind, so that you may prove what the will of God is, that which is good and acceptable and perfect.
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Praying for you on this journey. Habbakuk 3:16-19 is my favorite passage for when times get tough. Might be worth a look for you with what you are embracing.
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"I think one of the things I love about Orthodoxy is the embrace of mystery."

Only because you bring it up- is there still a "mystery" you are living with?

You may recall my biological daughter has come to terms with gender dysphoria by the grace of God and is leading a healthy productive life, active in our local parish. In this "walk" as I call it, since 2012, we have seen what a gift this has been for the whole family. I know at first I did not see it as such, but now, I cannot imagine any other way. For us, there is no mystery, in the sense that there is some confusion about whether or not gender dysphoria is real or not- it's very real. It is not a phase or fad or choice. Not unlike homosexual orientation, this is the way it is and will be for the rest of Rolin's life.

I share this, because there is nothing to hide and Rolin's testimony is about the love of God and grace shown for his creation in the face of a lot of misunderstanding. Learning to love yourself so that you can love others the way Christ command us has been the greatest hill to climb. That has been, for me, the part I have seen the greatest improvement in Rolin's young life. Not saying this is over, but that there is no more hiding from it.

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