Whether you are a fan of the society or not, this article is by far the best and most thorough "easy" read of the need for and reasoning behind both the Econe consecrations, and the increasingly like future consecrations of additional bishops for the SSPX.

Please do yourself a favor and read

https://sspx.org/en/news/future-consecrations-approaching-deadline-50846?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=fedica-SSPX-org

Quo Vadis? said:

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Whether you are a fan of the society or not, this article is by far the best and most thorough "easy" read of the need for and reasoning behind both the Econe consecrations, and the increasingly like future consecrations of additional bishops for the SSPX.

Please do yourself a favor and read

https://sspx.org/en/news/future-consecrations-approaching-deadline-50846?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=fedica-SSPX-org

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Will I go into schism if I click that link?

747Ag said:

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Quo Vadis? said:

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Whether you are a fan of the society or not, this article is by far the best and most thorough "easy" read of the need for and reasoning behind both the Econe consecrations, and the increasingly like future consecrations of additional bishops for the SSPX.

Please do yourself a favor and read

https://sspx.org/en/news/future-consecrations-approaching-deadline-50846?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=fedica-SSPX-org

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Will I go into schism if I click that link?

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I'll tell you after you click

Quo Vadis? said:

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747Ag said:

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Quo Vadis? said:

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Whether you are a fan of the society or not, this article is by far the best and most thorough "easy" read of the need for and reasoning behind both the Econe consecrations, and the increasingly like future consecrations of additional bishops for the SSPX.

Please do yourself a favor and read

https://sspx.org/en/news/future-consecrations-approaching-deadline-50846?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=fedica-SSPX-org

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Will I go into schism if I click that link?

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I'll tell you after you click

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Ok. After I finish listening to episode 26 (The Canon and Communion's Symbolic Meaning) in their series "The Catholic Mass."

Quo Vadis? said:

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Whether you are a fan of the society or not, this article is by far the best and most thorough "easy" read of the need for and reasoning behind both the Econe consecrations, and the increasingly like future consecrations of additional bishops for the SSPX.

Please do yourself a favor and read

https://sspx.org/en/news/future-consecrations-approaching-deadline-50846?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=fedica-SSPX-org

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Seems self serving to me

#8 Necessity - basically, yeah Rome doesn't like it but we do it anyway because, well, we just have to and it's "necessary". SSPX defining what is necessary, I guess

The bishops are dying off so what the hell let's just consecrate a bunch of new ones that the Pope doesn't approve of

Rome hasn't declared them schismatic, but I don't know why. Seems like both camps would be happier. Then again, the Pope hasn't declared the Germans schismatic either. He puts up with their crap. He puts up with a lot of crap, I guess. Unless you are a mouthy Bishop in Tyler, Texas simply trying to keep the faith.

Anyway, isn't the SSPX the new home of those wacky nuns in Fort Worth?

continuing down the road to schism.

Check out...

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Now, it is clear that since the Second Vatican Council, the faithful of the Catholic Church have found themselves confronted with such a situation. Since 1965, the Church authorities have imposed on them a new Credo in three forms: religious liberty, ecumenism, and collegiality. And since 1969, they have also imposed on them a reformed liturgy, with a new Mass in a Protestant spirit and sacraments redeveloped in an ecumenical direction. In this way, these Popes impose on the faithful the serious errors of neo-Modernism, already condemned by their predecessors. In the face of this widespread Protestantism, every faithful Catholic in the Church must react. This point corresponds to what is commonly called "the crisis in the Church" and "the state of necessity." This justifies resistance: it is this resistance that explains the work of Archbishop Lefebvre and the Society of Saint Pius X.

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Seriously, just leave.

Well, you already have - you just don't realize it.

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The Novus Ordo mass was designed as an olive branch to Protestants in order to foster a new wave of ecumenism. Pope Paul VI's said so himself, the doxology was added to the end of the Lord's Prayer, the pax became a back slapping, hugging free for all, and the priest or deacon was free to riff on the homily and make it cool, funny and relatable.

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Link?

Hmmmmm

https://www.vatican.va/archive/hist_councils/ii_vatican_council/documents/vat-ii_const_19631204_sacrosanctum-concilium_en.html

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INTRODUCTION
1. This sacred Council has several aims in view: it desires to impart an ever increasing vigor to the Christian life of the faithful; to adapt more suitably to the needs of our own times those institutions which are subject to change; to foster whatever can promote union among all who believe in Christ; to strengthen whatever can help to call the whole of mankind into the household of the Church. The Council therefore sees particularly cogent reasons for undertaking the reform and promotion of the liturgy.

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I don't see the word Protestant in there at all. And if you want to project that into his words, he's speaking about the council not the Mass.

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Hmmmmm

https://www.vatican.va/archive/hist_councils/ii_vatican_council/documents/vat-ii_const_19631204_sacrosanctum-concilium_en.html

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INTRODUCTION
1. This sacred Council has several aims in view: it desires to impart an ever increasing vigor to the Christian life of the faithful; to adapt more suitably to the needs of our own times those institutions which are subject to change; to foster whatever can promote union among all who believe in Christ; to strengthen whatever can help to call the whole of mankind into the household of the Church. The Council therefore sees particularly cogent reasons for undertaking the reform and promotion of the liturgy.

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I don't see the word Protestant in there at all. And if you want to project that into his words, he's speaking about the council not the Mass.

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Who are they fostering union with? Fellow Catholics?

Perhaps. But you walked right past the fact that sentence is about the council, not the new mass as you asserted.