10andBOUNCE said:
Interesting how two guys can switch sides like that. I know it happens all the time.
The host and my parents are very alike. They both went through Catholic school in Chicago and from their anecdotal experience, never once heard the gospel presented.
I have always been interested in the indulgences part of the reformation after reading about Tetzel, I but didn't come away with much more clarity after that.
Was worth the listen. Thanks for sharing.
Glad you enjoyed.
To give a brief rephrasing of indulgences without getting too deep: indulgences are basically making purgatory less "purging" by truly acknowledging our wrong doing while here on earth and repenting more fully. It's saying that we have less "purging" to do of our sinful proclivities after we die.
As jimmy eludes to, there are different opinions on what purgatory looks like. Because God is outside of time, our language of "how long" you are in purgatory or "how much" purging is needed is not perfectly defined, and the idea of indulgences being granted are eluding to the binding and loosing passages.
He also makes it clear that people can not "buy forgiveness". The fact that some priests used it that way (illicitly) was something Luther got right.
ETA: I grew up Catholic and left for over 10 years after hearing a Baptist pastor preach. No doubt most priests can do 1000X better. I had to come to grips with the fact that bad preaching =\= bad theology.
ETA: to be fair to father Jerry, I probably didn't do a very good job of paying attention to the times he did talk about Grace. As young boy and teenager I was much more focused on "tell me what not to do and I won't do it" then listening to how some guy named Jesus loved me. That was a personal weakness.