revvie said:

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I have never believed this and never will. Does anyone still want this. I never thought this to be an issue, but I keep hearing variations of this today.

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Sapper Redux said:

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DeProfundis said:

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I would rather be ruled by a King who believes his eternal destination is judged by how he treated his subjects rather than by politicians who have to sell their soul every 2-6 years in order to get enough money to win campaigns.

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Because as we know, absolute power in one person is totally safe and does no damage at all.

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DeProfundis said:

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Sapper Redux said:

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DeProfundis said:

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I would rather be ruled by a King who believes his eternal destination is judged by how he treated his subjects rather than by politicians who have to sell their soul every 2-6 years in order to get enough money to win campaigns.

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Because as we know, absolute power in one person is totally safe and does no damage at all.

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Helluva lot easier to kill a king than it is to kill a legislative, judicial and executive

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DeProfundis said:

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I would rather be ruled by a King who believes his eternal destination is judged by how he treated his subjects rather than by politicians who have to sell their soul every 2-6 years in order to get enough money to win campaigns.

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DeProfundis said:

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Aggrad08 said:

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DeProfundis said:

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I would rather be ruled by a King who believes his eternal destination is judged by how he treated his subjects rather than by politicians who have to sell their soul every 2-6 years in order to get enough money to win campaigns.

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In a totally unintentional way you have just made a great case against a universal suffrage democracy

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In the words of George Carlin, imagine how stupid the average American is; and realize half of the population is dumber than them

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craigernaught said:

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DeProfundis said:

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Aggrad08 said:

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DeProfundis said:

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I would rather be ruled by a King who believes his eternal destination is judged by how he treated his subjects rather than by politicians who have to sell their soul every 2-6 years in order to get enough money to win campaigns.

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In a totally unintentional way you have just made a great case against a universal suffrage democracy

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In the words of George Carlin, imagine how stupid the average American is; and realize half of the population is dumber than them

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Which half are the dorks who are anti-democracy?

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craigernaught said:

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Bustup, who is the owner of the government and how should that be decided?

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DeProfundis said:

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craigernaught said:

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DeProfundis said:

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Aggrad08 said:

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DeProfundis said:

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I would rather be ruled by a King who believes his eternal destination is judged by how he treated his subjects rather than by politicians who have to sell their soul every 2-6 years in order to get enough money to win campaigns.

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In a totally unintentional way you have just made a great case against a universal suffrage democracy

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In the words of George Carlin, imagine how stupid the average American is; and realize half of the population is dumber than them

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Which half are the dorks who are anti-democracy?

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Those are called "adults". If you think the best way to run a body is to allow everyone to have an equal say; Godspeed; but I can tell you as a business owner, if I let everyone vote for what their compensation should be we would be out of business quite soon.

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craigernaught said:

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I want you to answer Bustup. Which you didn't.

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Serotonin said:

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Again, you are making the mistake of measuring people in two different domains.

Yes, most Americans can't balance a personal budget, but that is because they are tempted by fun treats and can't resist. A little retail therapy is good for the soul!

But when it comes to voting, Americans put on their responsible citizen caps and don the virtues of patience, careful listening, and restraint. A thorough investigation of the candidates, their platforms, and potential long-term effects of any policy proposals and complex trade agreements: this is the order of the day for the responsible voter.

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Sapper Redux said:

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The fun thing about elected representatives is that they are part of a larger body and in the case of the president, responsible to the people and term limited. Monarchs are not, no matter how inbred and ignorant they may be.

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You have to be dreaming if you feel that our elected are responsible to the people. Look at the expense accounts of our elected officials and you'll find lavish spending that would color the face of a Borgia.

The greatest societies this world has ever known have had their roots in under authoritarian forms of government. Feudal Japan, Imperial China, The Catholic Kingdoms of Europe and Caliphates of North Africa and the Arabian peninsula all great engines of scientific,artistic and cultural innovation.

In the more modern period the 'Strong Man' has been a great protector when faced by marauding hordes of godless marxists. Ioannis Metaxas, Generalissimo Franco, Augosto Pinochet, Lee Kuan Yew, and even Pope St.John Paul II all authoritarian all great victors over the scourge of marxism.

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craigernaught said:

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craigernaught said:

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I want you to answer Bustup. Which you didn't.

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I just don't think you like my answer. It depends on the type of government and who you ask. You act like "Who decides" isn't the quintessential answer to every form of government and can be answered with quick throwaway response.

Go back and read my first response on this thread. I would rather have a King then a uniparty talking head who is nothing more than a lever pulling robot for competing special interests. If I have to spell it out for you; the King would be the government, and he would govern by the consent of his subjects in that if he wasn't a good King, they would kill him as has been done numerous times throughout history.

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Obviously I don't like your answer. It's really stupid. You've been spouting this type of nonsense for years. Eventually you break forum rules one way or the other, get banned again, and then make a new username and pretend you're someone else.

You didn't answer. Because you can't or because you think answering it will make your position look even worse than it is. Pretending that "consent of the king's subjects" is just who gets murdered is moronic. Good rulers have been murdered. Bad ones have ruled for a long time.

This place has become an absolute dumpster fire.

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I'm going to need you to go ahead and unload both barrels on your ideological conjoined twin Sapper Redux, who unless I'm mistaken might have broken a forum rule or two himself, without the class to at least pretend to be another poster.

It's very easy to call someone else stupid, you'll actually note that it's thrown around the playgrounds of elementary schools quite often; which is where your retort belongs.

Every single society on Earth has some form of limited suffrage; our government was created with an extreme form of limited suffrage, and for some reason it was mistaken as a bug rather than a feature of good government.

Democracy released Barabbas, Constantine, warts and all, empowered Christianity to spread across Europe.

Again, going back to business, me making decisions for our business is better both for myself and for the employee themselves even thought they have no say. Increasing their salaries 4-fold would be fantastic for them in the short term, but would be very bad for them in the long term as I would have to close the company. Keeping the decision making in my hands ensures that this does not happen.

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