Here's Fr. Edward Dougherty (according to TIME) officiating the funeral at St. Patrick's Cathedral for trans activist and prostitute Cecilia Gentili, joking, "Except on Easter Sunday, we don't really have a crowd that is this well turned out," to which the crowd of trans… pic.twitter.com/3gYehwdxcq

— Mary Margaret Olohan (@MaryMargOlohan) February 16, 2024

Yesterday, St. Patrick's Cathedral hosted the funeral of Cecilia Gentili, a transgender, atheist prostitute. Funeral was attended by hundreds of trans activists in thongs/fishnet/halter tops/fur. They celebrated the dead prostitute by mocking St. Cecilia, saying: "This whore.… pic.twitter.com/qMeUA0rfhK

— Mary Margaret Olohan (@MaryMargOlohan) February 16, 2024

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Disgusting to allow that in such a beautiful house of worship. So much wrong with this I don't know where to begin. I'll pray for the Church tonight as we attend stations of the cross in our parish.

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Can. 1184 1. Unless they gave some signs of repentance before death, the following must be deprived of ecclesiastical funerals:
1/ notorious apostates, heretics, and schismatics;
2/ those who chose the cremation of their bodies for reasons contrary to Christian faith;
3/ other manifest sinners who cannot be granted ecclesiastical funerals without public scandal of the faithful.

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Is the potential denial of funeral rites unjust discrimination?

Persons with same-sex attraction, as human persons, have the same rights as all persons, including the right of not being treated in a manner which offends their personal dignity. Nevertheless, these rights are not absolute, and may be legitimately limited for objectively disordered external conduct (unlike the categories of race or ethnicity which are not connected with possible objectively disordered external conduct). This limitation of rights for such external conduct is sometimes not only licit but obligatory. The Church determined over the course of many centuries, in its pastoral wisdom for the care of living souls, that unrepentant manifest sinners should be denied funeral rites if it is impossible to avoid public scandal.

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PabloSerna said:

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"Who am I to judge?" - Pope Francis

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You will get plenty of reasons why someone should not merit a life with God in heaven. The strongest of these will no doubt be hurled by Satan (Hebrew for "accuser"). But stayed tuned, Lucifer may be out done yet!

Instead, I will tell you why you should rejoice for someone who was dead and is now alive with God. That funeral mass is no joke. You can read about the Prodigal Son (Lk 15:11-32) and see for yourself what God was thinking when Cecilia walked through those pearly gates. "Bring quickly the best robe, and put it on him, and put a ring on his hand, and shoes on his feet. And bring the fattened calf and kill it, and let us eat and celebrate."

Make no mistake, God is merciful.

ETA: No doubt some will say, but the son was remorse- to that I say, aren't we all when we stand in the light of truth?

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PabloSerna said:

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Do you think this person is in hell then?

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This blasphemy and desecration of a sacred place must be denounced by all who know Jesus Christ is Lord. The shepherds are feeding the sheep to the wolves, pray for this poor soul whose death was the occasion of such sacrilege. https://t.co/1EMOP1nG7Y

— Bishop J. Strickland (@BishStrickland) February 17, 2024

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I used to go with my grandmother to the Baptist church, and they didn't want me there. They made it very clear. I used to go to the Catholic church, too, and both were such traumatic experiences for me as a queer person. So I came to identify as an atheist, but I know that so many trans people have been able to find a relationship with faith in spaces that include them.

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The pews of St. Patrick's Cathedral were packed on Thursday for an event with no likely precedent in Catholic history: the funeral of Cecilia Gentili, a transgender activist and actress, former sex worker and self-professed atheist whose memorial functioned as both a celebration of her life and an exuberant piece of political theater.

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Ceyenne Doroshow, who organized the funeral, said friends of Ms. Gentili who died on Feb. 6 at 52 had wanted the service to be at St. Patrick's because "it is an icon, just like her." But she added that she had not mentioned that Gentili was transgender when planning with the church. "I kind of kept it under wraps," she said.

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At one point, a friend of Gentili's took the lectern to pray for access to gender-affirming health care. At another, a mourner upstaged a priest singing "Ave Maria," changing the lyrics to "Ave Cecilia." She then danced through the aisles, red scarves twirling around her.

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Can. 1184 1. Unless they gave some signs of repentance before death, the following must be deprived of ecclesiastical funerals:
1/ notorious apostates, heretics, and schismatics;
2/ those who chose the cremation of their bodies for reasons contrary to Christian faith;
3/ other manifest sinners who cannot be granted ecclesiastical funerals without public scandal of the faithful.

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jkag89 said:

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I have no problem with a funeral mass for Cecilia Gentili. I do have a huge problem that the mass itself was just a sideshow.

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DeProfundis said:

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jkag89 said:

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I have no problem with a funeral mass for Cecilia Gentili. I do have a huge problem that the mass itself was just a sideshow.

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Small private gravesite. Best I can do. Anything else they'll turn into a forum. Purchase mass intentions for a year for their soul, best thing you can do for them.

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craigernaught said:

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Can we leave F16 threads where they belong?

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DeProfundis said:

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craigernaught said:

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What?

It was moved here from the other forum. Keep the outrage posts over there. Discuss the religious issues here. Geez.

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??? I started this thread on here

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BrazosDog02 said:

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Instead of church people worrying about trans people in their church, perhaps the church and people should focus more on the commentary by the preacher about turnout on Easter?

Just a thought.

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BrazosDog02 said:

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Instead of church people worrying about trans people in their church, perhaps the church and people should focus more on the commentary by the preacher about turnout on Easter?

Just a thought.

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BrazosDog02 said:

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Bob Lee said:

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BrazosDog02 said:

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Instead of church people worrying about trans people in their church, perhaps the church and people should focus more on the commentary by the preacher about turnout on Easter?

Just a thought.

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That IS the point fool. These demoniacs aren't packing the pews on Sundays. Why? They did this to mock our Lord. No other reason.

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Fool? Come on, now. That's a little much, eh?

My entire comment is based on what I understand to be "they held a funeral in a Catholic church becuase they felt it was fine to do, and they intentionally left out anything negative that would cause the church to disallow it." If that is incorrect, then please correct me.

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BrazosDog02 said:

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Bob Lee said:

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BrazosDog02 said:

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Instead of church people worrying about trans people in their church, perhaps the church and people should focus more on the commentary by the preacher about turnout on Easter?

Just a thought.

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That IS the point fool. These demoniacs aren't packing the pews on Sundays. Why? They did this to mock our Lord. No other reason.

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Fool? Come on, now. That's a little much, eh?

My entire comment is based on what I understand to be "they held a funeral in a Catholic church becuase they felt it was fine to do, and they intentionally left out anything negative that would cause the church to disallow it." If that is incorrect, then please correct me.

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