Genesis 3:15 and "seed"

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Thaddeus73
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The following verse, Genesis 3:15 (here in the RSV2CE translation), is known in Catholic theology as the "protoevangelium," the "first Gospel": I will put enmity between you and the woman, and between your seed and her seed; he shall bruise your head, and you shall bruise his heel. As we mentioned at the Feast of the Annunciation, to speak of the "seed of the woman" is unusual, if not unprecedented; the possession of "seed" was associated with men, and descent was typically reckoned through the male line. Nonetheless, Eve will later give thanks for righteous Seth as the "seed" God gave her to replace Abel slain by Cain (Gen 4:25). Seth, who produced a righteous line culminating in Noah, the savior of the world, is himself a type and foretaste of another "seed of the woman," Jesus Christ, who truly was "seed of the woman" in a more profound sense than any other human being, since no seed of a man was involved in his generation; he took his flesh solely from the woman.

Bergsma, John. The Word of the Lord: Reflections on the Mass Readings for Solemnities and Feasts (p. 436). Emmaus Road Publishing. Kindle Edition.
TheGreatEscape
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Yes. We of the Reformed Tradition speak of the protevangelium as well and sometimes on Sunday morning.

It's the only command that some of us have obeyed, save only the subdue part which is something we are back to working on…

Remember that St. Paul had to spread the gospel message first and establish the doctrine throughout the whole known world. But 300 years later these roots finally bore fruit into subduing the political sphere.

"Blessed are the meek. For they shall inherit the earth."
Pro Sandy
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Unprecedented is funny because Eve is the first woman. So yeah, literally unprecedented because they have had no children yet.

Genesis 24:60 uses the same Hebrew word, zera`, we just translate it as offspring.

And they blessed Rebekah and said to her,

"Our sister, may you increase
to thousands upon thousands;
may your offspring possess
the cities of their enemies."


Offspring is Rebekah's offspring, so no, Eve and Mary are not the only women to have offspring, sometimes translated as seed.
Thaddeus73
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In the Vulgate, the word "seed" is "semen."
Pro Sandy
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Thaddeus73 said:

In the Vulgate, the word "seed" is "semen."
Genesis was written in Hebrew, not Latin.
TheGreatEscape
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Agree with both..
AgLiving06
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Pro Sandy said:

Thaddeus73 said:

In the Vulgate, the word "seed" is "semen."
Genesis was written in Hebrew, not Latin.

If you're not first translating greek/hebrew into latin and then from latin to english are you even a christian? lol
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