Question on Mary

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Klaus Schwab
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It is funny that many neo Darwinians entertain the idea of alien sperm for life on earth.
TheGreatEscape
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Klaus Schwab said:

It is funny that many neo Darwinians entertain the idea of alien sperm for life on earth.


It is. I find that both funny and ironic.
Aztec1948
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Not a warning. Just another example of a project with some really interesting data involving remote viewing.

This project was probably more applicable to the topic.

Miracle at Fatima
"I have been told that we have recovered technology that did not originate on this".-Former Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense for Intelligence-Chris Mellon

“Behind the scenes, high-ranking Air Force officers are soberly concerned about UFOs. But through official secrecy and ridicule, many citizens are led to believe that unknown flying objects are nonsense.” Former CIA Director, Roscoe Hillenkoetter, public statement, 1960.
Klaus Schwab
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Aztec1948 said:

Not a warning. Just another example of a project with some really interesting data involving remote viewing.

This project was probably more applicable to the topic.

Miracle at Fatima
Are you into remote viewing or something? Be careful, that's a demonic gateway.
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Read the writings of Bl. Anne Catherine Emmerich regarding St. Anne (ie. Vol I of the Life of Jesus Christ from TAN Books) for a detailed overview of St. Mary.
Aztec1948
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Klaus Schwab said:

Aztec1948 said:

Not a warning. Just another example of a project with some really interesting data involving remote viewing.

This project was probably more applicable to the topic.

Miracle at Fatima
Are you into remote viewing or something? Be careful, that's a demonic gateway.
Yes, I've heard that. But when you come to realize that angels, demons, skygods, Elohim et. al. are simply extraterrestrials...the game changes. Reality changes. At least here. Trust the data. Thoughts on the data presented?
"I have been told that we have recovered technology that did not originate on this".-Former Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense for Intelligence-Chris Mellon

“Behind the scenes, high-ranking Air Force officers are soberly concerned about UFOs. But through official secrecy and ridicule, many citizens are led to believe that unknown flying objects are nonsense.” Former CIA Director, Roscoe Hillenkoetter, public statement, 1960.
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Aztec1948 said:

Klaus Schwab said:

Aztec1948 said:

Not a warning. Just another example of a project with some really interesting data involving remote viewing.

This project was probably more applicable to the topic.

Miracle at Fatima
Are you into remote viewing or something? Be careful, that's a demonic gateway.
Yes, I've heard that. But when you come to realize that angels, demons, skygods, Elohim et. al. are simply extraterrestrials...the game changes. Reality changes. At least here. Trust the data. Thoughts on the data presented?


I reject that based upon the numbers. No way are these from other planets traveling beyond the speed of light to get here.
Aztec1948
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TheGreatEscape said:

Aztec1948 said:

Klaus Schwab said:

Aztec1948 said:

Not a warning. Just another example of a project with some really interesting data involving remote viewing.

This project was probably more applicable to the topic.

Miracle at Fatima
Are you into remote viewing or something? Be careful, that's a demonic gateway.
Yes, I've heard that. But when you come to realize that angels, demons, skygods, Elohim et. al. are simply extraterrestrials...the game changes. Reality changes. At least here. Trust the data. Thoughts on the data presented?


I reject that based upon the numbers. No way are these from other planets traveling beyond the speed of light to get here.
Who told you that? What if they didn't have to exceed the SOL? What if you had the tech to bend spacetime? You could effectly exceed the SOL multiple times over...

Watch the Fatima video?
"I have been told that we have recovered technology that did not originate on this".-Former Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense for Intelligence-Chris Mellon

“Behind the scenes, high-ranking Air Force officers are soberly concerned about UFOs. But through official secrecy and ridicule, many citizens are led to believe that unknown flying objects are nonsense.” Former CIA Director, Roscoe Hillenkoetter, public statement, 1960.
Klaus Schwab
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Aztec1948 said:

Klaus Schwab said:

Aztec1948 said:

Not a warning. Just another example of a project with some really interesting data involving remote viewing.

This project was probably more applicable to the topic.

Miracle at Fatima
Are you into remote viewing or something? Be careful, that's a demonic gateway.
Yes, I've heard that. But when you come to realize that angels, demons, skygods, Elohim et. al. are simply extraterrestrials...the game changes. Reality changes. At least here. Trust the data. Thoughts on the data presented?
Why would we place any trust into beings that you have no relationship with other than gathering "data" through remote viewing?

Also by definition the Trinity is uncreated. It's impossible for the Trinity to be a created being and it's impossible for created beings to justify the use of logic and data unless there is a divine mind that holds all of these things together. Demons can manifest as ETs or whatever the current society sees as the margin.
Klaus Schwab
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Overall point being that you are an empiricist with a focus on aliens and that's actually worse than the average atheist empiricist. At least the atheist isn't actively searching for contact with something that could destroy them. The machine elves are not your friend.
Aztec1948
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Klaus Schwab said:

Overall point being that you are an empiricist with a focus on aliens and that's actually worse than the average atheist empiricist. At least the atheist isn't actively searching for contact with something that could destroy them. The machine elves are not your friend.
Focused on the truth.

hang in there...things will become much more clear..just trying to get out ahead of things to come regarding....just about everything we thought we knew

Perhaps this interview might be as good a spot as any...

"I have been told that we have recovered technology that did not originate on this".-Former Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense for Intelligence-Chris Mellon

“Behind the scenes, high-ranking Air Force officers are soberly concerned about UFOs. But through official secrecy and ridicule, many citizens are led to believe that unknown flying objects are nonsense.” Former CIA Director, Roscoe Hillenkoetter, public statement, 1960.
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TheGreatEscape said:

I'm currently reading "Mary" by Catholic answers.
I have no problem with saying that Mary was the Mother of God. But I do not pray to dead people, even Mary that is blessed among women and full of grace.
Neither do we.

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https://conexaoufo.com/en/the-encounter-of-a-native-american-elder-with-the-star-people/?fbclid=IwAR3cGLGKlAWKwi1Zvqv2HoxEfTMMnoaKPYGizs7AkGOWrlG6mE6VaJ19J8o
"I have been told that we have recovered technology that did not originate on this".-Former Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense for Intelligence-Chris Mellon

“Behind the scenes, high-ranking Air Force officers are soberly concerned about UFOs. But through official secrecy and ridicule, many citizens are led to believe that unknown flying objects are nonsense.” Former CIA Director, Roscoe Hillenkoetter, public statement, 1960.
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Aztec1948 said:

Not a warning. Just another example of a project with some really interesting data involving remote viewing.

This project was probably more applicable to the topic.

Miracle at Fatima
Listened to it and I gotta tell you it is full of errors just on the recap. If you know anything about the apparition you know that the children actually asked the woman, whom they were pretty sure was Mary, her name. She gave it in detail and this recap missed it. That was just one of several errors.

Why does accuracy matter? I guess for some it doesn't.
Aztec1948
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PabloSerna said:

Aztec1948 said:

Not a warning. Just another example of a project with some really interesting data involving remote viewing.

This project was probably more applicable to the topic.

Miracle at Fatima
Listened to it and I gotta tell you it is full of errors just on the recap. If you know anything about the apparition you know that the children actually asked the woman, whom they were pretty sure was Mary, her name. She gave it in detail and this recap missed it. That was just one of several errors.

Why does accuracy matter? I guess for some it doesn't.
Is was not the mother of Jesus. Nor are any of the multitude of events involving her down through the ages all over the planet. Thats the whole point of the project...to find out the true story, not what has been told. RV is not perfect. But the data presented here clearly suggests something else entirely took place. This "Mary" was an extraterrestrial. As was the "angel" Gabriel that had contact with Mohamed in the cave. Yes, I realize just how hard it is to question one's world view. You watched the vid...that's a good 1st step perhaps.

Wait until you see this month's project on The Secret Space Program. It's one thing to disclose the et reality. It's quite another to disclose just what all has resulted from the 75+ years of back-engineering recovered et materials..
"I have been told that we have recovered technology that did not originate on this".-Former Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense for Intelligence-Chris Mellon

“Behind the scenes, high-ranking Air Force officers are soberly concerned about UFOs. But through official secrecy and ridicule, many citizens are led to believe that unknown flying objects are nonsense.” Former CIA Director, Roscoe Hillenkoetter, public statement, 1960.
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PabloSerna said:

TheGreatEscape said:

I'm currently reading "Mary" by Catholic answers.
I have no problem with saying that Mary was the Mother of God. But I do not pray to dead people, even Mary that is blessed among women and full of grace.
Neither do we.




Or living saints in heaven…semantics
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Aztec1948 said:

PabloSerna said:

Aztec1948 said:

Not a warning. Just another example of a project with some really interesting data involving remote viewing.

This project was probably more applicable to the topic.

Miracle at Fatima
Listened to it and I gotta tell you it is full of errors just on the recap. If you know anything about the apparition you know that the children actually asked the woman, whom they were pretty sure was Mary, her name. She gave it in detail and this recap missed it. That was just one of several errors.

Why does accuracy matter? I guess for some it doesn't.
Is was not the mother of Jesus. Nor are any of the multitude of events involving her down through the ages all over the planet. Thats the whole point of the project...to find out the true story, not what has been told. RV is not perfect. But the data presented here clearly suggests something else entirely took place. This "Mary" was an extraterrestrial. As was the "angel" Gabriel that had contact with Mohamed in the cave. Yes, I realize just how hard it is to question one's world view. You watched the vid...that's a good 1st step perhaps.

Wait until you see this month's project on The Secret Space Program. It's one thing to disclose the et reality. It's quite another to disclose just what all has resulted from the 75+ years of back-engineering recovered et materials..


I have seen these things in the sky. I don't have any special thing about me. I know to not engage with them because I don't know who is who. Can't tell which ones are for the God team and which ones are on the Team Satan. Even the devil comes as an angel of light, per scripture.

These are angelic like inter-dimensional beings.
They are smarter than you. Bending time is silly.
Placing this all in technology is silly. There is a wall
between mankind and these beings for a reason.

And yes, they are limited in what they can and cannot do.
When Lucifer fell, there were 1/3 of all the angels fell with him. We have more on our side. It's a fight. But the battle belongs to the Lord.

Aztec1948
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Why did they disable our nuclear tipped ICBM's?
"I have been told that we have recovered technology that did not originate on this".-Former Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense for Intelligence-Chris Mellon

“Behind the scenes, high-ranking Air Force officers are soberly concerned about UFOs. But through official secrecy and ridicule, many citizens are led to believe that unknown flying objects are nonsense.” Former CIA Director, Roscoe Hillenkoetter, public statement, 1960.
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TheGreatEscape said:

PabloSerna said:

TheGreatEscape said:

I'm currently reading "Mary" by Catholic answers.
I have no problem with saying that Mary was the Mother of God. But I do not pray to dead people, even Mary that is blessed among women and full of grace.
Neither do we.




Or living saints in heaven…semantics
So asking living humans on earth is okay though? This is different than asking the living Mary to intercede? I'll take the mother of our Saviors prayers for me at least on par with Jim Bob and Sally's in my bible study. I used to be Protestant...in fact most of my life. But after really reading scripture I could not refute any longer why God tells us and what the disciples and their followers practiced.
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Aztec1948 said:

Why did they disable our nuclear tipped ICBM's?


Huh?
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AggieRain said:

Aztec1948 said:

Why did they disable our nuclear tipped ICBM's?


Huh?
The security guard called and said, "Sir, there's a glowing red object hovering right outside the front gate. I've got all the men out here with their weapons drawn." We lost between 16-18 ICBMs (nuclear tipped Inter Continental Ballistic Missiles) at the same time UFOs were in the area… (A high-ranking Air Force officer) said, "Stop the investigation; do no more on this and do not write a final report. I heard that many of the guards that reported the incident were sent off to Vietnam." Captain Robert Salas, USAF, during a videotaped interview for the Disclosure program.

Came across an interesting book..here is a very brief discussion on some of its contents:

UFOs AND THE POWER OF BELIEF by D.W. Pasulka | Features on White Crow Books
"I have been told that we have recovered technology that did not originate on this".-Former Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense for Intelligence-Chris Mellon

“Behind the scenes, high-ranking Air Force officers are soberly concerned about UFOs. But through official secrecy and ridicule, many citizens are led to believe that unknown flying objects are nonsense.” Former CIA Director, Roscoe Hillenkoetter, public statement, 1960.
Aztec1948
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Perhaps she is venerated because of the many reported apparitions of her? I contend that they are all false events, items etc.

I had forgotten about an episode of the Ancient Alien series on the History Channel talking about the Vatican and more specifically, this event in Fatima:

(1) Ancient Aliens: Secret Vatican Archives Contain Explosive Revelations (Season 5) | History - YouTube

I would just add that the data collected using a technique developed by our CIA and Stanford Research Institute via Farsight Institute in Atlanta...very closely fits with what they are suggesting here. When you combine what supposedly was conveyed to President Carter....the dots become long dashes.

"I have been told that we have recovered technology that did not originate on this".-Former Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense for Intelligence-Chris Mellon

“Behind the scenes, high-ranking Air Force officers are soberly concerned about UFOs. But through official secrecy and ridicule, many citizens are led to believe that unknown flying objects are nonsense.” Former CIA Director, Roscoe Hillenkoetter, public statement, 1960.
jkag89
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You do realize the Theotokos was venerated centuries before the apparitions I guess that does not rule out "aliens" using any of it for their own purposes..
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jkag89 said:

You do realize the Theotokos was venerated centuries before the apparitions I guess that does not rule out "aliens" using any of it for their own purposes..
Maryism has deep roots in the occult. I suspect Theotokos was just a trial run. But no data to support that. Worship of goddesses etc...and probably worse. But its all based on a lie. Several actually. Duped is the term I believe. Damn sad, but it was thought to be in our best interest. And to control us. The mother of Jesus was simply a pawn in a much bigger program.

The OP did ask....

Does the thought of aliens and the apparent involvement in humanity disturb you though?
"I have been told that we have recovered technology that did not originate on this".-Former Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense for Intelligence-Chris Mellon

“Behind the scenes, high-ranking Air Force officers are soberly concerned about UFOs. But through official secrecy and ridicule, many citizens are led to believe that unknown flying objects are nonsense.” Former CIA Director, Roscoe Hillenkoetter, public statement, 1960.
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Read Bl. Anne Catherine Emmerich (ie TAN Books, four volume Life of Jesus Christ) if you want to know about St. Mary in incredible detail, including detail verified by archeology.
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Once again, much assertion, little to any facts to build a case for that assertion.
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Perhaps. Simply adding to the conversation here as the OP had questions on Mary.
"I have been told that we have recovered technology that did not originate on this".-Former Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense for Intelligence-Chris Mellon

“Behind the scenes, high-ranking Air Force officers are soberly concerned about UFOs. But through official secrecy and ridicule, many citizens are led to believe that unknown flying objects are nonsense.” Former CIA Director, Roscoe Hillenkoetter, public statement, 1960.
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Aztec1948 said:

jkag89 said:

You do realize the Theotokos was venerated centuries before the apparitions I guess that does not rule out "aliens" using any of it for their own purposes..
Maryism has deep roots in the occult. I suspect Theotokos was just a trial run. But no data to support that. Worship of goddesses etc...and probably worse. But its all based on a lie. Several actually. Duped is the term I believe. Damn sad, but it was thought to be in our best interest. And to control us. The mother of Jesus was simply a pawn in a much bigger program.

The OP did ask....

Does the thought of aliens and the apparent involvement in humanity disturb you though?


Why did they decide declare Mary the Theotokos at the Council of Ephesus?
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This may come as a shock to you, but one of the children, Lucia, lived a very long time until 2005. She wrote about her experience and it has nothing to do with aliens. Sorry bud- you struck out.
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05AG said:

Aztec1948 said:

jkag89 said:

You do realize the Theotokos was venerated centuries before the apparitions I guess that does not rule out "aliens" using any of it for their own purposes..
Maryism has deep roots in the occult. I suspect Theotokos was just a trial run. But no data to support that. Worship of goddesses etc...and probably worse. But its all based on a lie. Several actually. Duped is the term I believe. Damn sad, but it was thought to be in our best interest. And to control us. The mother of Jesus was simply a pawn in a much bigger program.

The OP did ask....

Does the thought of aliens and the apparent involvement in humanity disturb you though?


Why did they decide declare Mary the Theotokos at the Council of Ephesus?
I'm not familiar with this person/thing, but I suspect it was to placate/encourage the native peoples into accepting the tenets of this sect perhaps? A PR move if you will. Christmas, Easter etc. also had their roots in pagan religions and were "touched up" and brought into the sects faith for the same reason. But Mary, the mother of Jesus, was just a mom. A very good one at that. But nothing more. Certainly nothing to worship, pray to whatever. The apparitions down thru the ages are false events, people etc. Civilizations that have been in place for millions, perhaps billions of years longer than ours, have the means and tech etc to pull this off. Which is exactly what happened at Fatima and I suspect many other places.

I understand many will not buy this, but it's what I think is the truth. Religion is a hard thing to shake, especially one as controlling/binding as this sect.

I think the account of how Jimmy Carter reacted to being told the truth about extraterrestrials involvement in religions, gives a great deal of validity to the notion that not only this sect, but Christianity and Islam both are pretty much inert. Which would mean Mary as well.

I didn't create the memo, just deliver it.
"I have been told that we have recovered technology that did not originate on this".-Former Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense for Intelligence-Chris Mellon

“Behind the scenes, high-ranking Air Force officers are soberly concerned about UFOs. But through official secrecy and ridicule, many citizens are led to believe that unknown flying objects are nonsense.” Former CIA Director, Roscoe Hillenkoetter, public statement, 1960.
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Once again, much assertion, little to any facts to build a case for that assertion.
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Aztec1948 said:

05AG said:

Aztec1948 said:

jkag89 said:

You do realize the Theotokos was venerated centuries before the apparitions I guess that does not rule out "aliens" using any of it for their own purposes..
Maryism has deep roots in the occult. I suspect Theotokos was just a trial run. But no data to support that. Worship of goddesses etc...and probably worse. But its all based on a lie. Several actually. Duped is the term I believe. Damn sad, but it was thought to be in our best interest. And to control us. The mother of Jesus was simply a pawn in a much bigger program.

The OP did ask....

Does the thought of aliens and the apparent involvement in humanity disturb you though?


Why did they decide declare Mary the Theotokos at the Council of Ephesus?
I'm not familiar with this person/thing, but I suspect it was to placate/encourage the native peoples into accepting the tenets of this sect perhaps? A PR move if you will. Christmas, Easter etc. also had their roots in pagan religions and were "touched up" and brought into the sects faith for the same reason. But Mary, the mother of Jesus, was just a mom. A very good one at that. But nothing more. Certainly nothing to worship, pray to whatever. The apparitions down thru the ages are false events, people etc. Civilizations that have been in place for millions, perhaps billions of years longer than ours, have the means and tech etc to pull this off. Which is exactly what happened at Fatima and I suspect many other places.

I understand many will not buy this, but it's what I think is the truth. Religion is a hard thing to shake, especially one as controlling/binding as this sect.

I think the account of how Jimmy Carter reacted to being told the truth about extraterrestrials involvement in religions, gives a great deal of validity to the notion that not only this sect, but Christianity and Islam both are pretty much inert. Which would mean Mary as well.

I didn't create the memo, just deliver it.


So you're just talking out your ass and are spreading false information not rooted in facts. Your first two sentences clearly demonstrate you have no historical or theological knowledge of this topic. Repent of your false witness.
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Aztec1948 said:

05AG said:

Aztec1948 said:

jkag89 said:

You do realize the Theotokos was venerated centuries before the apparitions I guess that does not rule out "aliens" using any of it for their own purposes..
Maryism has deep roots in the occult. I suspect Theotokos was just a trial run. But no data to support that. Worship of goddesses etc...and probably worse. But its all based on a lie. Several actually. Duped is the term I believe. Damn sad, but it was thought to be in our best interest. And to control us. The mother of Jesus was simply a pawn in a much bigger program.

The OP did ask....

Does the thought of aliens and the apparent involvement in humanity disturb you though?


Why did they decide declare Mary the Theotokos at the Council of Ephesus?
I'm not familiar with this person/thing, but I suspect it was to placate/encourage the native peoples into accepting the tenets of this sect perhaps? A PR move if you will. Christmas, Easter etc. also had their roots in pagan religions and were "touched up" and brought into the sects faith for the same reason. But Mary, the mother of Jesus, was just a mom. A very good one at that. But nothing more. Certainly nothing to worship, pray to whatever. The apparitions down thru the ages are false events, people etc. Civilizations that have been in place for millions, perhaps billions of years longer than ours, have the means and tech etc to pull this off. Which is exactly what happened at Fatima and I suspect many other places.

I understand many will not buy this, but it's what I think is the truth. Religion is a hard thing to shake, especially one as controlling/binding as this sect.

I think the account of how Jimmy Carter reacted to being told the truth about extraterrestrials involvement in religions, gives a great deal of validity to the notion that not only this sect, but Christianity and Islam both are pretty much inert. Which would mean Mary as well.

I didn't create the memo, just deliver it.
The council of ephesus was in the mid 5th century, in turkey. Just fyi.
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Aztec1948 said:

05AG said:

Aztec1948 said:

jkag89 said:

You do realize the Theotokos was venerated centuries before the apparitions I guess that does not rule out "aliens" using any of it for their own purposes..
Maryism has deep roots in the occult. I suspect Theotokos was just a trial run. But no data to support that. Worship of goddesses etc...and probably worse. But its all based on a lie. Several actually. Duped is the term I believe. Damn sad, but it was thought to be in our best interest. And to control us. The mother of Jesus was simply a pawn in a much bigger program.

The OP did ask....

Does the thought of aliens and the apparent involvement in humanity disturb you though?


Why did they decide declare Mary the Theotokos at the Council of Ephesus?
I'm not familiar with this person/thing, but I suspect it was to placate/encourage the native peoples into accepting the tenets of this sect perhaps? A PR move if you will. Christmas, Easter etc. also had their roots in pagan religions and were "touched up" and brought into the sects faith for the same reason. But Mary, the mother of Jesus, was just a mom. A very good one at that. But nothing more. Certainly nothing to worship, pray to whatever. The apparitions down thru the ages are false events, people etc. Civilizations that have been in place for millions, perhaps billions of years longer than ours, have the means and tech etc to pull this off. Which is exactly what happened at Fatima and I suspect many other places.

I understand many will not buy this, but it's what I think is the truth. Religion is a hard thing to shake, especially one as controlling/binding as this sect.

I think the account of how Jimmy Carter reacted to being told the truth about extraterrestrials involvement in religions, gives a great deal of validity to the notion that not only this sect, but Christianity and Islam both are pretty much inert. Which would mean Mary as well.

I didn't create the memo, just deliver it.

You should really look into Nestorianism and the claims of Christotokos vs Theotokos.

You're correct, Mary is the mother of Jesus. But what is Jesus?

Is he just a man or more?
Is he part man and part God such that there is some separation between them to make Mary just the mother of the human part?
Is he 100% man and 100% God? If this is the case, then it would be correct to say that Mary gave birth to God in his human form.

You can comfortably believe in the Theotokos without having to believe in the veneration aspects that were later accretions.
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https://www.patheos.com/blogs/wakeupcall/2021/05/the-miracle-of-fatima-a-visit-by-mary-or-something-stranger/
"I have been told that we have recovered technology that did not originate on this".-Former Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense for Intelligence-Chris Mellon

“Behind the scenes, high-ranking Air Force officers are soberly concerned about UFOs. But through official secrecy and ridicule, many citizens are led to believe that unknown flying objects are nonsense.” Former CIA Director, Roscoe Hillenkoetter, public statement, 1960.
 
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