I love these guys... I wish I was that eloquent....
https://chnetwork.org/on-the-journey/on-the-journey-with-matt-ken-and-kenny-episode-109-three-protestants-go-to-mass-part-i/
https://chnetwork.org/on-the-journey/on-the-journey-with-matt-ken-and-kenny-episode-109-three-protestants-go-to-mass-part-i/