PabloSerna said:
Serious. I just reread your sentence and you are actually claiming that the diocesan seminaries have a gay subculture, is that right?
FalconAg06 said:PabloSerna said:
Serious. I just reread your sentence and you are actually claiming that the diocesan seminaries have a gay subculture, is that right?
Is this even in question? Weren't you the one claiming the priesthood was 40% gay? How does that happen without a gay subculture? What % gay is the normal population?
Mark Fairchild said:
Bishop Strickland is in a class of his own, and I mean that in the most complimentary way. The Catholics of the Diocese of Tyler are indeed blessed.
SoulSlaveAG2005 said:Mark Fairchild said:
Bishop Strickland is in a class of his own, and I mean that in the most complimentary way. The Catholics of the Diocese of Tyler are indeed blessed.
That's my bishop. Love that man for all he has done for the faith.
File5 said:
Got a link? What was the dust up?
Not convinced. No sale! Except for Paul being a Roman citizen...the rest is unproven and 'a huge stretch' at best. Truth is "it's a dead language"...died like its original users, with the Roman Empire. Even the church has diminished its use.jrico2727 said:
A "dead" language can be useful for something like theology. As we currently see in the temporal world people often change words and their meanings to fit an agenda, a language such as Latin doesn't allow such liberties.
Considering that St. Paul was a Roman citizen and St. Peter started the See of Rome it is fair to say at the very least some of the Apostles spoke Latin. Since Our Lord has his famous dialogue with Pilate, and found great faith in a centurion it is plausible that he spoke some Latin, even if just a phrase or two. Ultimately, Latin is eternalized on the cross so the language is inseparable from Christ and his Church.
Since this a fairly old thread I did not go back and read the thread again but I don't recall anyone claiming it was a necessity.whatthehey78 said:
Isn't it a dead language? Did Jesus or the Apostles speak, preach, read or understand it? Don't see a necessity.
Get your "facts' from CNN? So, in your version of history Peter...the man who "denied" Jesus 3 times...the man Jesus told "get thee behind me, Satan", and asked 3 times "do you love me" is the first See of the church...and yet was crucified nearly 3 centuries before the church was officially (read historically) decreed??????????? And I suppose you think this common fisherman was fluent in Latin, Aramaic, Greek and Hebrew??????jrico2727 said:
It wasn't a sale it's historical fact. But God Bless you in your search for truth.
They are not schismatic. They are canonically irregular.wbt5845 said:
BTW - SSPX order is schismatic. Just sayin'
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The leaders of the traditionalist Society of St. Pius X (SSPX) are in schism, and remain suspended from the sacraments, says the prefect of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith.
In an interview with the Italian daily Corriere della Sera, Archbishop Gerhard Mller said that although Pope Benedict XVI lifted the canonical excommunication of SSPX prelates, they remain suspended from the sacraments because "by their schism they have broken away from communion with the Church."
Did you notice the date ?wbt5845 said:
https://www.catholicculture.org/news/headlines/index.cfm?storyid=20046Quote:
The leaders of the traditionalist Society of St. Pius X (SSPX) are in schism, and remain suspended from the sacraments, says the prefect of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith.
In an interview with the Italian daily Corriere della Sera, Archbishop Gerhard Mller said that although Pope Benedict XVI lifted the canonical excommunication of SSPX prelates, they remain suspended from the sacraments because "by their schism they have broken away from communion with the Church."
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For the Jubilee Year I had also granted that those faithful who, for various reasons, attend churches officiated by the priests of the Priestly Fraternity of Saint Pius X, can validly and licitly receive the sacramental absolution of their sins. For the pastoral benefit of these faithful, and trusting in the good will of their priests to strive with God's help for the recovery of full communion in the Catholic Church, I have personally decided to extend this faculty beyond the Jubilee Year, until further provisions are made, lest anyone ever be deprived of the sacramental sign of reconciliation through the Church's pardon.
whatthehey78 said:Not convinced. No sale! Except for Paul being a Roman citizen...the rest is unproven and 'a huge stretch' at best. Truth is "it's a dead language"...died like its original users, with the Roman Empire. Even the church has diminished its use.jrico2727 said:
A "dead" language can be useful for something like theology. As we currently see in the temporal world people often change words and their meanings to fit an agenda, a language such as Latin doesn't allow such liberties.
Considering that St. Paul was a Roman citizen and St. Peter started the See of Rome it is fair to say at the very least some of the Apostles spoke Latin. Since Our Lord has his famous dialogue with Pilate, and found great faith in a centurion it is plausible that he spoke some Latin, even if just a phrase or two. Ultimately, Latin is eternalized on the cross so the language is inseparable from Christ and his Church.
