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I think (hope) we can all agree that vaccinations are good.

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People can do what they want, just don't let unvaccinated kids into public school.

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People can do what they want, just don't let unvaccinated kids into public school.

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Or public universities. You can home school, you can't home college. I think this would take the hold-outs down to a manageable number.

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I was bothered more by the use of "exponential" than I was by the insinuation that vaccines cause autism.

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The Dangers Of Vaccines and Vaccination
Vaccination is a medical treatment administered to an otherwise healthy individual. Virtually all other invasive medical interventions occur only once someone has fallen ill. Vaccination, like most medical treatments, can involve some risk. And therefore it should be undertaken only after careful consideration of its risks versus its benefits.
The dangers of vaccines are real, can be substantial and life-long, and for some, life ending. Additionally vaccines:

• have not been subject to toxicity studies for many of the ingredients such as aluminum and mercury, which are known neurotoxins
• have not been studied for adverse effects in the combinations in which they're given (multiple shots in a single day for infants and children)
• cannot be guaranteed to provide the benefit of immunity for which they are given
• are used to "prevent" benign childhood diseases, diseases which actually "teach" the immune system how to work properly

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Vaccines Are Unavoidably Unsafe
According to the US Food and Drug Administration, safety assessments for vaccines have not often included toxicity studies because vaccines have not been viewed as inherently toxic. Yet vaccines are legally defined as unavoidably unsafe.
It is not just childhood vaccines that come with substantial risk. Influenza vaccines, vaccines for sexually transmitted diseases, and others contain similar risks for adverse events. Also troubling is that vaccination is recommended now for pregnant women, even though vaccine package inserts clearly state they have not been tested on pregnant women, so the effects on the fetus can't be known.
In the 1960s only a handful of childhood vaccines were given. The current CDC recommended vaccine schedule for children now has over 30 vaccines by the time a child turns 6 and an additional potential for up to 30 more by the time they reach 18. Could this increase be linked to our declining health? For example, currently:

• One in six children in the US has a learning disability
• Over 50% suffer from some type of chronic illness.
• Cancer is the leading cause of death in our children
• Autism rates have soared from 1 in 10,000 in 1990 to 1 in 68 today

Since genetic mutations change slowly over generations, we must look to environmental causes for these changes. While other environmental toxins certainly are at play in these statistics, disregarding the potential role to the amounts of toxin injected into children through vaccines is not only bad public policy, it is bad science. By disregarding the role of vaccines in our statistics for infant mortality and chronic diseases, we could be doing more harm than good in mandating, or even advising, them.

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If you didn't already think Nicolas Cage sucks,

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Woody2006 said:

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I think (hope) we can all agree that vaccinations are good.

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Sure, if you want to exponentially increase the incidence of autism.

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You will not find a more expert person on the subject of childhood vaccines than your ordinary pediatrician, because they spend so much time every week arguing with parents who think vaccines are bad.

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Just because a pediatrician doesn't want to waste their valuable time (and the time of other patients) trying to explain the rationale, show the evidence, and debunk all the nonsense when the people asking have already made up their minds, doesn't mean they don't know an insane amount about this subject.

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if sufficient evidence could be shown that banning guns significantly reduced the overall homicide rate would you guys also be okay with the government taking control on this point?

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if sufficient evidence could be shown that banning guns significantly reduced the overall homicide rate would you guys also be okay with the government taking control on this point?

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I would think that everyone would agree that if guns never existed at all, our homocide rates would be lower.

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Vaccines don't cause autism, or really anything else at a population signficant level. But even if they did, it's still a better option than blindness (measles), deafness (measles), infertility (mumps and rubella), birth defects (rubella and varicella), paralysis (tetanus and polio), and death (tetanus, diptheria, pertussis, varicella, pneumococcus, rotavirus, hemophilus, meningococcal meningitis, hepatitis A, influenza)

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