Hickory High said:
chuckd said:
WCF 3.1
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God from all eternity, did, by the most wise and holy counsel of His own will, freely, and unchangeably ordain whatsoever comes to pass; yet so, as thereby neither is God the author of sin, nor is violence offered to the will of the creatures; nor is the liberty or contingency of second causes taken away, but rather established.
Doesn't seem like an either/or to me.
That's all semantics. Either God foreknew who would come to know Him or He did not.
He did, "yet so, as thereby neither is God the author of sin, nor is violence offered to the will of the creatures; nor is the liberty or contingency of second causes taken away, but rather established."
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Acts 2:22 Ye men of Israel, hear these words; Jesus of Nazareth, a man approved of God among you by miracles and wonders and signs, which God did by him in the midst of you, as ye yourselves also know: 23 Him, being delivered by the determinate counsel and foreknowledge of God, ye have taken, and by wicked hands have crucified and slain.
In this passage, we are taught God determined for Jesus to be crucified and the men of Israel carried it out by wicked hands. Predestination and free will are both at work.
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Phil. 2:12 Wherefore, my beloved, as ye have always obeyed, not as in my presence only, but now much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling. 13 For it is God which worketh in you both to will and to do of his good pleasure.
In this passage, we are taught God works in us according to his good pleasure, yet charged to work out our salvation. Predestination does not remove free will.