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Didn't we prove Jesus was gay in the thread that was deleted? Graven images are a much bigger problem to God as evidenced by the second commandment.

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That would certainly put funkymonkey in a peculiar position of launching to the defense of Jesus.

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How capricious that straight people can marry and sinlessly act on the desires they were born with but not gays.

You know what your saying isnt equivalent but you push on anyway.

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They can't sinlessly act on the desires they were born with outside of the bounds of marriage. Within the bounds of marriage they can have sexual relations with one person sinlessly, their spouse. You can keep feigning outrage and using a plethora of emoticons, but your desire to rend your garments over the supposed unfair treatment of gays by God has out kicked it's logical relevance

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But having 100 wives and concubines spreading untold diseases is totally cool.

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The capricious bounds of marriage that your God your God limits to men and women while creating people with homosexual attraction rendering it impossible for them to act on their God given attraction. Truly capricious.

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How is it rendered impossible? Do you know what that word means?

Then we have hazoos possibly caught in a homosexual act.

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A young man, wearing nothing but a linen garment, was following Jesus. When they [the Temple guards] seized him, he fled naked, leaving his garment behind."

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Show me where this is allowed in the catechism

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Does the catechism trump the bible?

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It really does in their mind. One of the funnier posts I saw bustup make was saying that the NT can't be used to establish the beliefs of the early church, he required something from catechism stating that.


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http://texags.com/forums/15/topics/2663114/4

"No, I need extra biblical sources, something from the Catechism, or possibly apocryphal, you can't use the bible"

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I don't think you understood the purpose of either of those comments my good skeptic. It really helps an argument if you selectively edit the texts your conversant is able to reference.

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How capricious that straight people can marry and sinlessly act on the desires they were born with but not gays.

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They can't sinlessly act on the desires they were born with outside of the bounds of marriage. Within the bounds of marriage they can have sexual relations with one person sinlessly, their spouse. You can keep feigning outrage and using a plethora of emoticons, but your desire to rend your garments over the supposed unfair treatment of gays by God has out kicked it's logical relevance

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But having 100 wives and concubines spreading untold diseases is totally cool.

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Show me where this is allowed in the catechism

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Does the catechism trump the bible?

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Whenever convenient.

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HAHAHAHAHAHHA winky face

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How capricious that straight people can marry and sinlessly act on the desires they were born with but not gays.

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They can't sinlessly act on the desires they were born with outside of the bounds of marriage. Within the bounds of marriage they can have sexual relations with one person sinlessly, their spouse. You can keep feigning outrage and using a plethora of emoticons, but your desire to rend your garments over the supposed unfair treatment of gays by God has out kicked it's logical relevance

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But having 100 wives and concubines spreading untold diseases is totally cool.

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Show me where this is allowed in the catechism

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Whenever convenient.

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HAHAHAHAHAHHA winky face

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If that's the best you can do, that's the best you can do.

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Show me where this is allowed in the catechism

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http://texags.com/forums/15/topics/2663114/4

"No, I need extra biblical sources, something from the Catechism, or possibly apocryphal, you can't use the bible"

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http://texags.com/forums/15/topics/2663114/4

"No, I need extra biblical sources, something from the Catechism, or possibly apocryphal, you can't use the bible"

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I don't think any of you actually understood that my comments were in light of atheists disallowing the bible when discussing God, and Protestants disallowing the Catechism when discussing Christianity. I'm hoping Maplethorpe and Aggrad will make their arguments under my guidelines this time, but was actually tickled aggrad took a few moments a time from his "silent smug musing break" to peruse my comments

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How capricious that straight people can marry and sinlessly act on the desires they were born with but not gays.

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They can't sinlessly act on the desires they were born with outside of the bounds of marriage. Within the bounds of marriage they can have sexual relations with one person sinlessly, their spouse. You can keep feigning outrage and using a plethora of emoticons, but your desire to rend your garments over the supposed unfair treatment of gays by God has out kicked it's logical relevance

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But having 100 wives and concubines spreading untold diseases is totally cool.

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Show me where this is allowed in the catechism

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Whenever convenient.

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HAHAHAHAHAHHA winky face

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If that's the best you can do, that's the best you can do.

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I just wanted to add to the pyramid here.

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Around half of all heterosexual men and women potentially carry so-called homosexuality genes that are passed on from one generation to the next.

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What an unscientific statement.

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Agree here. This is pseudo-science at best.

Again, luckily we have breakthroughs in technology that will bring some more rigor into these types of studies in the future.

still haven't figured out what capricious means, but it must not be very good.

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still haven't figured out what capricious means, but it must not be very good.

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It's a pouched artificial fruit juice beverage...and it's very good; especially after soccer games with orange slices handed out by the team mom.

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still haven't figured out what capricious means, but it must not be very good.

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It's a pouched artificial fruit juice beverage...and it's very good; especially after soccer games with orange slices handed out by the team mom.

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Except for the moldy ones....

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Of course, if the new technologies bring confirmation that homosexuality is genetic, then they can be dismissed based on being built on 'only theory'.

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I don't quite get this reference.

The data will tell the tale, or it won't.

Here is a short quip on how genes can predict eye color:

http://www.gbhealthwatch.com/Trait-Eye-Color.php

We will soon have the data and computing power to predict things like this with very good certainty.

I think he is saying that those who wish to believe it is a choice will dismiss it as a theory much like those who believe in a young earth dismiss evolution as a theory.

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Is that a reference to an amino acid sequence???? I never realized that!

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Nucleic acids, but carry on.

It would translate as an aspartic acid and a tyrosine with that last "a" left over. /themoreyouknow

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No idea, but it sure seems like there has to be some kind of genetic component considering it just won't go away no matter how hard people have tried to make it.

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Not to mention that kids can show tendencies far before they have any understanding of sexuality. When I was growing up, my best friends little brother was always in his mother's closet.

We were only a few years older and just thought he was a little strange. As we grew older, it was more of a WTF is wrong with your brother.

He came out in high school, in the 80's. Hardly anyone was that open about it in high school back then. Looking back, he really didn't have a choice. The kid was way too feminine to hide it.

I know society likes to link them, but I think identifying with the feminine and homosexuality are completely different things.

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No idea, but it sure seems like there has to be some kind of genetic component considering it just won't go away no matter how hard people have tried to make it.

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Not to mention that kids can show tendencies far before they have any understanding of sexuality. When I was growing up, my best friends little brother was always in his mother's closet.

We were only a few years older and just thought he was a little strange. As we grew older, it was more of a WTF is wrong with your brother.

He came out in high school, in the 80's. Hardly anyone was that open about it in high school back then. Looking back, he really didn't have a choice. The kid was way too feminine to hide it.

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the gay gene somehow manifests itself through hanging in momma's closet? That's what I don't understand, we're told that gender is a social construct; however, this gay gene supposedly influences the person to be feminine. Which arrangement forces them to be the leather biker type?

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Being gay doesn't make you feminine.

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Being gay doesn't make you feminine.

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But your point misses the mark. You don't have to be feminine but you can be and the poster was articulating an example where they knew there was something different about a person long before the person identified one way or another. When people say the effiminate gay is a stereotype that doesn't mean no homosexual fits that stereotype.

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Is the stereotype of the feminine gay an affectation or predisposition towards feminine behavior? How many kids that grow up to be straight are always in their mother's closet? The pro-gay crowd is continuously begging for some kind of scientific research that shows that there is a genetic predisposition towards homosexual attraction as if it absolves any sort of personal responsibility. In a hypothetical situation where being gay was morally wrong; we wouldn't absolve people from their actions if there was a genetic predisposition to do them; just as we don't nowadays with behavior that is immoral.

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Being gay doesn't make you feminine.

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But your point misses the mark. You don't have to be feminine but you can be and the poster was articulating an example where they knew there was something different about a person long before the person identified one way or another. When people say the effiminate gay is a stereotype that doesn't mean no homosexual fits that stereotype.

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Is the stereotype of the feminine gay an affectation or predisposition towards feminine behavior? How many kids that grow up to be straight are always in their mother's closet? The pro-gay crowd is continuously begging for some kind of scientific research that shows that there is a genetic predisposition towards homosexual attraction as if it absolves any sort of personal responsibility. In a hypothetical situation where being gay was morally wrong; we wouldn't absolve people from their actions if there was a genetic predisposition to do them; just as we don't nowadays with behavior that is immoral.

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I have no idea what point you think you are making. We see homosexuality in humans and in many many other parts of nature. Nothing in science indicates it is purely a choice just as you or I never chose to be attracted to women. We have a non hypothetical situation where people are born with a predilection towards children and we do not absolve them for their behavior. Their preference is no less natural than heterosexual or homosexual behavior. The similarity between homosexual and heterosexual behavior is that it involves consenting adults.