Then your love is based on a lie.
Los Alamos: We Have Become Death
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Last: 10 yr ago by SapperAg
quote:quote:WTF??
We lost in Vietnam in part because of that cavalier attitude.
We lost because the Democrat Congress defunded the war and our aid to South Vietnam.
WTF was cavalier about that?
I would point you to the atrocities committed during our search and destroy raids. But you obviously aren't interested in that.
Many of the South Vietnamese didn't have a good reason to oppose the North given our conduct.
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Then your love is based on a lie.
What country has better virtue historically through out the existence of man?
7nine
For the sake of consistency (looking at you Beer Baron):
Who has Switzerland bombed lately?
quote:Yeah, you are right. The south would have gladly died rather than us send them military aid to help them protect their villages and cities. The South hated our horrible mean soldier so much that they would have refused weapons and technology to save their own lands.quote:quote:WTF??
We lost in Vietnam in part because of that cavalier attitude.
We lost because the Democrat Congress defunded the war and our aid to South Vietnam.
WTF was cavalier about that?
I would point you to the atrocities committed during our search and destroy raids. But you obviously aren't interested in that.
Many of the South Vietnamese didn't have a good reason to oppose the North given our conduct.
7nine
quote:Switzerland? Seriously? The ones that gladly hid nazi war criminals and their treasures stolen from jews?
Who has Switzerland bombed lately?
Are you that deranged of a human being?
7nine
None is righteous, no not one.
Behold 7th's god
7nine
Ok, it's clear we can't have an actual, honest discussion of what happened. I'll leave you to believe what you want.
quote:You must be a democrat if you think your government should be righteous. Government in all forms is evil. The trick is to have as little of it as possible.
None is righteous, no not one.
7nine
No. I'm waiting for you to explain how South Vietnam would have turned down our military aid to save them from the north.
I'm all ears..... really.
I'm all ears..... really.
7nine
What Sapper said.
What bleeding heart liberal links do you guys have? I'll start with my greedy conservative ones.
7nine
quote:quote:You must be a democrat if you think your government should be righteous. Government in all forms is evil. The trick is to have as little of it as possible.
None is righteous, no not one.
That's funny coming from someone who praises the largest government in the history of the world.
quote:Yeah, what Sapper said. You obviously love to call the US monsters and evil but when someone you point out as who you think is superior morally is shown to be monstrously immoral, your response is.
What Sapper said.
None among us are righteous. What a rube.
7nine
quote:I praise military actions. Sure. Our domestic policy is a socialist nightmare and the only reason we aren't still the dominate powerhouse that once reigned.quote:quote:You must be a democrat if you think your government should be righteous. Government in all forms is evil. The trick is to have as little of it as possible.
None is righteous, no not one.
That's funny coming from someone who praises the largest government in the history of the world.
7nine
Nuclear technology was inevitable, WWII just hastened its development. It has its benefits too. Unfortunately, you can't have one without the other.
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No. I'm waiting for you to explain how South Vietnam would have turned down our military aid to save them from the north.
I'm all ears..... really.
I was talking about the civilians who lived in the South. Not the leadership of the South.
Are you really denying things like My Lai?
Who called the U.S. monsters or evil?
quote:quote:I praise military actions. Sure. Our domestic policy is a socialist nightmare and the only reason we aren't still the dominate powerhouse that once reigned.quote:quote:You must be a democrat if you think your government should be righteous. Government in all forms is evil. The trick is to have as little of it as possible.
None is righteous, no not one.
That's funny coming from someone who praises the largest government in the history of the world.
...you praise military action because you don't know the things that make for peace. You support the ways of the Beast, not the ways of the Lamb.
quote:I'm denying your false premise that mishandled military travesties somehow are the reason we lost in Viet nam.
Are you really denying things like My Lai?
Horrible things have been done through the military that were abhorrent and deserving of retribution to all military commanders involved in all wars. That isn't the reason we lost Viet nam.
7nine
quote:Dude. The god of the bible is the most vicious, hateful brutal beast like image there is. Ordered entire races wiped out, sends those that do not love him to burn and feel pain for all of eternity.quote:quote:I praise military actions. Sure. Our domestic policy is a socialist nightmare and the only reason we aren't still the dominate powerhouse that once reigned.quote:quote:You must be a democrat if you think your government should be righteous. Government in all forms is evil. The trick is to have as little of it as possible.
None is righteous, no not one.
That's funny coming from someone who praises the largest government in the history of the world.
...you praise military action because you don't know the things that make for peace. You support the ways of the Beast, not the ways of the Lamb.
7nine
I said they contributed. And they certainly did. To win a war like Vietnam you have to win the populace. We didn't.
When the **** did I fall into hippie heaven?!
7nine
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I said they contributed. And they certainly did. To win a war like Vietnam you have to win the populace. We didn't.
First and foremost you have to provide the military ability to win. It doesn't matter what the populace thinks of you if they can't even defend themselves.
You want to throw the baby out with the bath water.
7nine
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When the **** did I fall into hippie heaven?!
Please tell me you aren't actually a Christian?
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Please tell me you aren't actually a Christian?
I actually stopped believing in the Bible after 25 years after finally admitting it was too hateful of a book.
7nine
Oh the irony!
Do you think Hitler deserves hell?
Because I don't believe a single human deserves hell. I love all humans and think they all are flawed and deserve ultimate grace.
But this little fart of an existence on this rock is nothing. If you start attacking your neighbors, you need to die, but then go to heaven.
I posit that you are far more hateful than I.
Because I don't believe a single human deserves hell. I love all humans and think they all are flawed and deserve ultimate grace.
But this little fart of an existence on this rock is nothing. If you start attacking your neighbors, you need to die, but then go to heaven.
I posit that you are far more hateful than I.
7nine
quote:
Do you think Hitler deserves hell?
Because I don't believe a single human deserves hell. I love all humans and think they all are flawed and deserve ultimate grace.
But this little fart of an existence on this rock is nothing. If you start attacking your neighbors, you need to die, but then go to heaven.
I posit that you are far more hateful than I.
This from the guy who thinks dropping nukes on innocent civilians is morally acceptable?
quote:Civilians in a country that attacked us directly and was attacking all it's neighbors leaving us not much other options but wasting US lives invading them? Sure.quote:
Do you think Hitler deserves hell?
Because I don't believe a single human deserves hell. I love all humans and think they all are flawed and deserve ultimate grace.
But this little fart of an existence on this rock is nothing. If you start attacking your neighbors, you need to die, but then go to heaven.
I posit that you are far more hateful than I.
This from the guy who thinks dropping nukes on innocent civilians is morally acceptable?
7nine
1) it wasn't necessary to invade,
2) defense doesn't justify killing innocent 3rd parties.
2) defense doesn't justify killing innocent 3rd parties.
Would an Iraqi be justified in bombing a daycare in the U.S.? He would by your logic.
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In his speech to the Japanese people presenting his reasons for surrender, the Emperor referred specifically to the atomic bombs, stating if they continued to fight it would result in "...an ultimate collapse and obliteration of the Japanese nation..."
7nine
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