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Bobcat06
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The Army Of Black Flags

The Mahdi’s ascendancy to power is said to be preceded by an army from the east who will be carrying black flags or banners of war. Sheikh Kabbani states:


Hadith indicate that black flags coming from the area of Khorasan will signify the appearance of the Mahdi is nigh. Khorasan is in todays Iran, and some scholars have said that this hadith means when the black flags appear from Central Asia, i.e. in the direction of Khorasan, then the appearance of the Mahdi is imminent.


Another tradition states that:


The Messenger of Allah said: The black banners will come from the East and their hearts will be as firm as iron. Whoever hears of them should join them and give allegiance, even if it means crawling across snow.


In Islam there are two flags. One is white and one is black. Written across both flags in Arabic are the words, “There is no God but Allah and Muhammad is his Messenger”. The white flag is called Al-Liwaa and serves as the sign for the leader of the Muslim army and is the flag of the Islamic State. The black flag is called Ar-Raya and is used by the Muslim army. It is also called the flag of jihad, and is carried into battle. One flag is governmental and the other is a military flag. When Muhammad returned to his home city of Mecca after being exiled for eight years, he returned as a conqueror. With him were ten thousand Muslim soldiers. They carried with them black flags. On the flags was one word written in Arabic: punishment.


I was once talking to a group of young Muslim men and asking them some questions. I asked them if the obvious superior militaries of America and Israel compared to the militaries of any Islamic nations were a source of difficulty for many Muslims. One of these men then became very angry at my question and snapped out, “You Americans and Zionists better get ready, because the black flags are coming!” At the time, I had no idea what he was talking about. Later I learned the meaning.

http://answering-islam.org/Authors/JR/Future/ch04_the_mahdi.htm
primrose
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Syncretism?
Notafraid
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So the end of the Arab Spring is an American Fall.

Notafraid
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We are in Lybia trying to empower these same dbags! We are in the process of trying to negotiate a deal that will give Egypt a 4.8 billion dollar bail out! Obama won't even meet with Netanyahu.
Bobcat06
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Syncretism?


If you compare Islam's Madhi, Jesus and Dajjal with Judeochristianity's Gog, Dragon dressed as the Lamb and Jesus, you will find they have the same relationship except the good guy in one is the bad guy in the other. You can call that syncretism if you wish. I attribute it more to the fact that the scribes who recorded the Koran (since Mohammad was illiterate) were Christian Jews.

Regardless, the significance is that Muslims believe in what the black flags stand for. This isn't merely opposition to America or protests about the improper use of Mohammad. In their mind, the black flags represent the impending advent of Madhi and conquest of Dar Al-Harb.

[This message has been edited by Bobcat06 (edited 9/12/2012 8:54a).]
yesno
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I kinda liked Black Flag.
Notafraid
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In their mind, the black flags represent the impending advent of Madhi and conquest of Dar Al-Harb.


AKA: The end of the world.
Notafraid
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I see Obama is "voting present" on all of this...


(note: For all of you who don't get your news from a decent news source and don't know what the reference to Obama voting present. Obama simply voted present an unusually large number of times while he was in the senate, leading some to conclude that he could not make decisions, or was not up to the task in many ways. If you did not know about this, then you probably should not vote.)
jkag89
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I kinda liked Black Flag.

For some reason I really like their version of Louie Louie
Frok
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This isn't merely opposition to America or protests about the improper use of Mohammad


I agree. They were just looking for an incident that they can use to fire up their people.
yesno
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I see Obama is "voting present" on all of this...
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you left out he was black.
Mrs. Lovelight
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prof,

You liberals are the ones who see color as a factor. Dems are the ones who play to demographic profiles. Conservatives look at the values one holds, not outward color, race, etc.

But you already knew that didn't you?
yesno
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For some reason I really like their version of Louie Louie
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A coworker of mine has 4 live versions of this song from Black Flag.
yesno
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prof,

You liberals are the ones who see color as a factor. Dems are the ones who play to demographic profiles. Conservatives look at the values one holds, not outward color, race, etc.

But you already knew that didn't you?
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All I know is your sense of humor is well grounded in the concrete and literal...kinda like your view of life and the Bible.
Mrs. Lovelight
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prof,

You are so right we should all have a good laugh at the state Libya is in! HA HA HA!!! We don't really support our ally Israel, we just give them lip service!!! Sooooo funny!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Let me add-you are an idiot of the highest order.
Davism98
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But you already knew that didn't you?



Underrated post snipet
schmendeler
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We don't really support our ally Israel, we just give them lip service!!! Sooooo funny!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!




is $3+ billion a year lip service? i'd like some if so.
yesno
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Let me add-you are an idiot of the highest order.
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What order, exactly are you referring to, miss concrete?
gordo97
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is $3+ billion a year lip service?
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nuclear weapons as well perhaps?
Bobcat06
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The nukes came from Frane
boxerLXII
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TV party tonight!
We've got...nothin' better to do
Than watch TV and have a couple of brews
yesno
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yesno
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speaking of Black Flag
boxerLXII
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That was his best movie
primrose
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is $3+ billion a year lip service? i'd like some if so.


I believe the deal is that they have to give 70% of that back to us by buying stuff from us.

schmendeler
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Ok, so $2.1bln in gift cards.
primrose
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LOLOL, Schmendeler

edit: two words and I misspelled one of them.

[This message has been edited by primrose (edited 9/12/2012 9:50p).]
Mrs. Lovelight
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Gordo,

When I say support I don't mean just monetary/military support. I am speaking of a moral support for Israel as well. If you think this admin has given Israel the moral support it needs then let me direct your attention to the fact that Obama isn't meeting with Netanyahu but is making time for a meeting with Morsi. That sends a message, the wrong one IMO, not only to Israel but the rest of the Midddle East.
schmendeler
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israel's a big boy. they don't need us to hold their hands. and if they do, then they shouldn't be giving us veiled ultimatums.
Bobcat06
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israel's a big boy. they don't need us to hold their hands. and if they do, then they shouldn't be giving us veiled ultimatums.


This isn't operation Opera. Iran is further than Iraq. They need to use one of our carrier to land and refuel unless we want to give Iran stealth bomber technology.
Notafraid
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[This message has been edited by Notafraid (edited 9/13/2012 10:06a).]
Notafraid
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Schemendler,

Refusing to meet with your ally and meeting with the leader of the country that is in the middle of attacking our embassy sends the wrong message. Now if Obama informs Morsi that they better protect our people and property or else then I am less inclined to think that it was the wrong thomg to do. Either way make time for Netanyahu to show that you will continue to support them.

Edit-this is Lovelight

[This message has been edited by Notafraid (edited 9/13/2012 10:05a).]
schmendeler
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i'd say that meeting with the leader of the country that is experiencing riots and attacks on your consulate is definitely more important than meeting with somebody that wants a favor from us.
Mrs. Lovelight
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I'd say they're both pretty important...
schmendeler
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perhaps he has nothing to say?
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