Whos the bigger fraud. Ed Young or Joel Osteen?

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ason
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i have to go with EY.
Whistling For Flies
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Sam Harris

[This message has been edited by Whistling For Flies (edited 4/26/2011 4:45p).]
trouble
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Who is Ed Young?
yesno
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biggest pos?
senorchipotle
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ed the younger. from what i've seen and heard, osteen seems to be a pretty stand up guy. you can critique his theology or the way he preaches, but that doesn't make him a bad person. he makes people happy, and that's fine with me.
senorchipotle
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ed the younger. from what i've seen and heard, osteen seems to be a pretty stand up guy. you can critique his theology or the way he preaches, but that doesn't make him a bad person. he makes people happy, and that's fine with me.
brownbrick
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I don't know who Ed Young is.

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but that doesn't make him a bad person.
No that would be his sin.
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he makes people happy, and that's fine with me.
If a con-artist made you happy, you'd still be fine with that right?
fahraint
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off topic....herewego, I sent you a couple of emails!
Steve McQueen
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ed young here in houston is off the heezy fo sheezy
trouble
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I read some of Ed Young's website. While he irks me, I dislike Joel more.

I'll try to watch some of Ed's stuff so I can give a more educated opinion.

My opinion of Joel is not very nice.
senorchipotle
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btw... there are 2 ed youngs, i think it pertinent to distinguish between them. if we are talking about ed the elder, i don't know much about him. ed the younger on the other hand, keeps a private jet and isn't bashful about using it. he also pays himself a salary of 1.5 million a year.

regarding osteen, i'm not sure how he's a con artist. another thing about osteen i like is, he doesn't take a salary from the church, but lives off his own book earnings. that doesn't sound like con artistry to me.
trouble
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Um, I think Joel's message is the con so I definitely consider his books to be part of that.
Win At Life
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Not counting disagreements with Messianic teachings, I generally find very little from Ed the senior that I disagree with from a theological point. However, his way of speaking grates on me. Not so much what he says, but the way he sais it.

GOOOOOD LOVES YOU!

Ok, I get it, but why are you yelling at me?

However, I am generally uncomfortable with most of the people I have met who attend his services. Maybe I've just had a bad run, but the ones I have met all seem very phony.
Skubalon
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Ed the Younger looks like Skeletor, but is less biblically based.
Samsill98
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Joseph Smith.

Oh wait, was he not one of the choices?
Guitarsoup
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Ed Sr has the creepiest billboards ever. Big picture of him dressed up as Mr Rogers with Seconds [hearts] Kids. I keep waiting for the pedobear to show up.
Texaggie7nine
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Never heard or watched Ed Young.

I have always supported Joel. I was a member of his father's Lakewood.

The only thing that bugs me with Joel is that is gets a bit over emotional. Believe me it is no con. The man's heart will cry when talking about anyone suffering.



[This message has been edited by Texaggie7nine (edited 4/26/2011 11:32p).]
brownbrick
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off topic....herewego, I sent you a couple of emails!


Got 'em, sent you a reply.
gordo97
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Ed Sr has the creepiest billboards ever
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it's those capped teeth isn't it
TopHat
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Why do people pick on Joel Osteen? Jealousy? Or is there something sinister that I am missing?

He seems to be happy with himself and I haven't heard any scandals. I don't think he is on welfare and probably pays some taxes on his book deals. He probably brings his trash cans in off the curb in a timely manner and never picks boogers while driving.

Go figure?
Texaggie7nine
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See here Top Hat.

http://texags.com/main/forum.reply.asp?topic_id=1829317&forum_id=15



Losman
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John Hagee
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