I do encourage yall to talk to Jensen, Cheese (the founders) Keebs, or Reekan (other executives) of OC Homeless if you want to hear it from their mouths, but having cut with them for two years, the real reason they are seperate is because they want to be. To be quite abrupt, they're lazy... and damn proud of it. In speaking directly about this with Jensen this past weekend, he says they just enjoy being lazy, leaving when they want and hanging out whenever the opportunity provides. It really is all about having a good time, sometimes at the cost of productivity. And as to the ill-will perspective (against OC Hogs or anyone for that matter), I have never heard any of the such. The only thing he did say about OC Hogs was that some of the Hogs tried to convince them to join so that yall can get centerpole... while that is cool and an ultimate goal for most crews, Jensen and his boys (and girls) aren't all that interested generally, especially at the cost of being their light-hearted, lazy a$$ selfs. They are Bums for Christ-sake, hence the homeless. (Not because they couldn't find a home.) But like I said, come talk to them in the woods or whatnot (they cut with Lechner in FHK's woods) and you will surely get the full scoop.