while pondering the prospect of working on another temporary ban for a certain somebody on here...

I found that this sounds better:

seeing as how my mutt was impregnated while I was not at home...there is a better chance that []1 impregnated my dog...which explains why they were so damn ugly.

[This message has been edited by TexasRebel (edited 12/18/2007 10:17p).]

ahhhh hahahaha you really zinged me there bud, you really really got me! You are so clever! DAMN! That was brilliant, telling me I got your dogs pregnant. You're just an endless fount of wit, you know that funny man? Endless.

And you must have failed to notice the "false accusations" disclaimer I put in my post. So, referring to a few posts ago...what out there makes you believe a serious conversation about bonfire or ASB will be had by the administration?

[This message has been edited by SquareOne07 (edited 12/18/2007 10:36p).]

Is it possible for either of you to have a real discussion without arguing over semantics and nit-picky details? For crying out loud, that's all that every seems to be discussed on here. It's damn near impossible to express rational thought on here without everything turning into a square vs. rebel thread. You just make both of yourselves look petty and stupid.

Sorry, this has been bothering me for a while.

Rebel's idiocy is glaring and hard for me to avoid or overlook, I apologize.

And Pred, in all honesty and fairness, I have tried to have serious discussions, but others' opinion of me personally and dissent from a general perspective prevent that from happening.

I could give 2 hot bowls of schiit for what people on here think of me, but if it's serious discussion you're talking about, and a dissenting viewpoint comes from anybody, but especially me...well then that's a discussion that will spin off.

To continue my rant and try and defend the bonfire people for a moment:

The serious discussions about bonfire here are quite pointless in my not so humble opinion. Yes, upper leadership reads the boards, but more as bathroom reading material or for a really good chuckle now and then.

Any 'good ideas' such as burn date, diverse participation, future relations with the University, what will be done when the litigation is done etc. brought up on here have usually been thought through and discussed amongst the reds, greens & browns, and to a lesser extent each dorm. This place, as a forum for discussion of what direction should bonfire take, is falling not on deaf ears per say, but ears who have already heard most if not all of these arguments.


It is at this point at which most bonfire people take issue with you. Instead of a being a unique perspective, you appear to act as.....for a lack of a better term from the football board, a pot-banger. Always on the negative aspects of bonfire, unlikely or unwilling to consider the good. I don't know what you're true intentions are for posting here, but most bonfire people, if not all, find it as pure trolling & antagonistic schoolyard smack better suited for the rivalries board.


I'm a run-of-the mill non-leadership senior out in the woods, but from my own observations, some of the points you bring up as 'supportive objections/suggestions' aren't entirely unique or new. And in thinking that you are the only one brining up these points, bonfire underlings and those who lack a certain tact will attack you instead of the points you bring up.

I'm sorry if your participation in bonfire was less than memorable, we as a whole should work a bit harder on being more inclusive to everyone and less of a closed off minority segment of the student body.


In closing, please stop hijacking threads with your not so playful banter. Both of you.

Ok, so why don't you tell me what kind of things I'm allowed to say and what sort of opinions I should have that would be more suiting. No dissenting opinions, gotcha. No opinion that other people have, ok. Nothing that stirs up the ire of other individuals, alrighty. Nothing but positive about the creation that is off campus bonfire. Seriously, what a joke. I don't give a damn if other people have the same opinion as I do, I still have them. I also don't give a damn if you don't like my opinion, I'm not interested in you liking my opinion. I'm interested in sharing my opinion, and believe it or not, other people are saying the same things...just not on here. So maybe instead of when reading that SquareOne07 posted something, you look at it objectively.

Nevermind, go back to the original plan and just tell me what to think and what to post. Oh, and Chunks, once pred has told me what to think, why don't you tell me how to think and how to post. Thanks! All apologies for not fitting into your "bonfire mold" and jumpin outside the box. Oh, and if you think my time with bonfire was "less than memorable" and that I felt "not included", then you don't know me. Ramble on though, it makes ya feel better.

sorry Pred, and others...

I just can't/won't sit idle while an uninformed nobody ([]1 to be specific) posts lies and misinformation, then goes on to twist everything that is legitimately posted into a KBTX story.

After attacking his points, the only thing left is to prove his lack of credibility...

the character bashing was just long overdue...I hadn't done that in a while and a "dog ugly" post seemed in order.

One day he may figure out that just about every one of his posts/thoughts/concerns is nothing more than a "vibs bombing" (GB term).

Square....If that's how you construe my post, wow...just wow.

I was trying to help you understand why bonfire people are so antagonistic and you take it as how you should think? WOW. I didn't think it was possible to miss my point by so much. I'm sorry, I'm gonna be a little antagonistic all the time if that's how you're going to take my point of view.


[This message has been edited by Predmid (edited 12/20/2007 12:13a).]

Here we go again, TR, you've made several similar claims in the past few days. Please tell me what lies and misinformation I have given. You always go to that, but then when I ask you to provide these lies and misinformation, you never have anything. Talk about credibility. You guys really let me get to you, and really make yourself out to look like whiny sniffly crybabies, way to go.

I don't mean to make a mockery of you or this forum, but geez, you seem really intent on it sometimes.

I guess instead of coming up with some genuine counter opinions of your own or finding something incriminating on me, you just say that your ******* pups you had to get rid of are ugly like me. Right, way to go, spot on.

The more you all disagree with me, the more personal the attacks get, and all that shows me and others that read this, is that you're stretching, really really stretching.

As to bonfire, all we can do is sit and wait now. The bricks have been laid and the best ASB can do now is wait to see how the situations play out. Don't give me this "we've been doing it GREAT for 5 years," give me long term sustained success without problems like law breaking and then you'll begin to convince the masses of an air of legitimacy. Wait and see how ASB responds to changes on campus, and how campus continues to respond to ASB. Also, wait to see how a new administration responds to ASB, and the ghost of Bonfire.

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give me long term sustained success without problems

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Wouldn't this take time?

I doubt any organization is 'perfect' when they are started.

SB is working at fixing the problems that come up, as they come up. Some of the problems that have been fixed before they became pressing, others have popped up and were dealt with at that time.

Give me an example of a better way to effectively do it and I will suggest it to the leadership.


<sarcasm>
We all appreciate your dedicated scrutiny that keeps us on our toes. Otherwise we all know that things would totally go to schiit and the organization would fail and take hundreds of hard working students down with it.
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Please tell me what lies and misinformation I have given.

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See every post by user SquareOne07 since the 29th of September in the 6th year of the 1st century of the 3rd millennium A.D.

[This message has been edited by TexasRebel (edited 12/20/2007 1:21p).]

Rebel, only one will suffice. Are you able to point to one, or no? I didn't think so. Keep on with your blanket false statements though, they will take you far. Nice try though champ.

Slim, you're right about that, and that's exactly my point. ASB is not Bonfire. ASB is not ready to step toe to toe with the administration or the president. ASB is not ready to face to county or the community. It will take TIME, MUCH TIME before that could even be thought of. Years like 2005 can't happen. Injuries can't happen. Stupid ass schiit like what happened in 2006 can't happen. Minimize, nay, eliminate those things for an EXTENDED period of time and you'll rid yourself of the critics. Until then people will still say "ASB? Weren't they the guys who lit the fire during the burn ban and got all those tickets or something?" or "I was there in 06 and some dumbasses were throwing stuff on it while it was burning" most importantly and most challenging "Bonfire killed 12 of our own less than a decade ago, why would we bring it back?"

You answer it through what you do, not through your words or anybody else's. It doesn't seem, to me at least, that one of ASB's priorities is to avoid making enemies. I won't offer my opinion, because I'm sure you share the same belief...

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Rebel, only one will suffice. Are you able to point to one, or no?

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I present to you, one of your first posts on the Bonfire Board.

A post about the mythical 45-day deadline for a permit that was not applicable to SB.

I ask you for a blatant, malicious lie I told and all you can provide us with is a post from well over a year ago. I read about the 45 day deadline through KBTX or the Batt, dunno which one, maybe it was even on here. But if you're alleging that I cooked up some mythical 45 day deadline just to be difficult, then you're really reallllly reaching.

I think it's hilarious that you say EVERY one of my posts I've EVER made has been a lie, and that's all you could get. Some year old post where I was inquiring about information I read. Typical.

double post

[This message has been edited by SquareOne07 (edited 12/20/2007 6:03p).]

http://texags.com/main/forum.reply.asp?forum_id=14&topic_id=712014

Ah ha...I found it. It appears I didn't make up this 45 day deadline, and it was actually DualAg who posed the question about it in the first place. I'll fill you in, in case you don't exactly remember or care to click on the link.

Dual asked about the deadline, as it had arrived. You responded 19 hours later. Funny enough though, you didn't call him a liar because he brought it up, and now you're calling me a liar because I asked about it too. For your information, discussion about the deadline took place for 3 pages, and never once did you come out and attack anybody for being a "liar" (as you did me some 14 months later). So, what is it, is he a liar and making this stuff up, or are you pulling at straws here trying to attack my credibility and character - which seems of paramount importance to you.

Rebel, face it, just because you personally don't like me and take umbrance with my views doesn't make me a liar. People on here have their thoughts on me, and most are negative, but most also aren't willing to go to the same lengths as you are to attack somebody's character and attempt to take shots at their credibility. I wouldn't give you, or anybody over the internet for that matter, the ability to attack me or my credibility, yet still you press on. After all, if you can't confront an issue head on with discussion, attack your opponent when that's all you've got left to do. And clearly, that's all you have left to do.

Short story - your efforts are pathetic, and they make you look weak in the process. Carry on.

DualAg asked about the deadline and got an answer...you posted another thread about it later and then brought it up a year later with the same story that had already been atributed (a year prior) to the media (KBTX) taking liberty in fabricating their own story.

You then spent 2 Falls arguing that the chosen burn date was not convienient for many people (unsubstatiated), and refused to believe or accept that people had spent time deciding on the best date to burn.

You've also contradicted yourself by claiming one year that burning the Saturday before the game would be the best date to burn, then following yourself by attacking the choice for an early burn simply because it fell on the night of the 17th of November. The claim you made was that it was disrespectful to the families of the 12 and the injured, however, some of the families of the 12 stated that they had no problem with it.

Including this thread we're at 4.

Now, would you like to get back on topic and try to explain why a tradition that is important to 90+ years of former students is not important to the soon-to-be president of the university...or are you content in just saying that other issues negate the necessity to address the Bonfire issue?

No, Dual didn't get an answer, hence the 3 pages of discussion that followed about ASB's shady communication practices and several others sharing my opinion. As to the date of burn, you were the one griping about it being a bad date this year, I was fully in favor of it. Oh look, and here's the link proving that very point http://texags.com/main/forum.reply.asp?forum_id=14&topic_id=897908. A blatant lie...by you though.

It was 2 years ago that I expressed my opinion on the matter, and several others shared similar opinions too - but wait, they must be liars too, because they don't agree with you. So now you're simply making things up to try and make me out to be a liar - I can't make this stuff up, it's quality.

TR, just because my opinions don't equal your's doesn't make me a liar, get the point. You're still making pathetic attempts to attack my character, and believe me, I laugh every time I read one of your posts - they're just that ridiculous. You're a funny guy, but not in that "laugh with you" way, rather, in that "laugh at you" way.

To address your last point, I didn't say Bonfire wasn't important, I just said it wasn't the most important, or important enough to merit a discussion being had any time soon. Why you ask? Because the assumption of the discussion would be "When will it be back?" It won't be back. Ever. Why? Because of ALL the problems tied to it when it was on campus. Because 12 students were killed when it was on campus, and dozens of others were injured. Because Bonfire, unfortunately doesn't seem to have the same romantic mystique it once had - most likely because of its absence on campus, but probably because the university itself is different than it was then - merely speculation though. So there ya go bud, ya happy? I answered your question with my opinion, and I know you're going to disagree, not because you have much of an opinion of your own, because I don't think you do, but because it's my opinion. Keep squackin though bud, maybe someday you'll be right, maybe someday somebody'll agree with you, and maybe someday, just like OJ, if you call me a liar enough, I'll become one. But you know what, he still murdered those folks, and you're still wrong about me as you'll ever be.

Simply - you lie in an effort to discredit me and to attack my character (my e-character hahaha). Way to go. Merry Christmas, and I mean that. This is dumb, don't make schiit personal and have the discussion and see where it goes. A good one can be had - I'd be really interested in making a sock and having the same opinions I do under Square as I did with the sock, just to see what kind of real discussion could be had. But alas, it can't. Merry Christmas to you all though.

[This message has been edited by SquareOne07 (edited 12/20/2007 6:56p).]

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yep, I claimed that it was a bad day for me, and that it caused some folks (anybody that didn't live in B/CS) to come into town two weekends in a row...both valid claims that are proven by...well...common sense.

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However, in this current situation legal counsel has been obtained and they are essentially donating their time and services to help. So, when they that are providing this service ask that all involved stay quiet on the issue, the last thing anyone wants to do is offend them by blatantly ignoring their advice.
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If you are truly following the advice of your lawyer, I withdraw any criticism I expressed about the lack of information.

Following sound legal advice is the hallmark of a mature organization. Maturity in this area indicates a grown-up attitude about other aspects of the operation, including the all-important safety considerations.

Understand that, in the end, the lawyer works for you--even if he is donating his services. Any attorney worth his salt understands that business people sometimes have to make decisions that run counter to advice of counsel. However, at this stage of the game, you're quite wise to follow his advice to the letter.



SquareOne07
posted 7:39p, 10/23/06



As certain as that is, I highly doubt an attorney would advise you against making it known that the organization has the proper documents that allow it to move forward with operations.

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the answer was on the third page of DualAg's thread. It also shows you blatantly disregarding the answer (given by 1 Board member, 1 Brown pot, and 1 soon-to-be JRP).

Twist this as you will, bring any other threads you wish, I'm done with it, and a few points ahead.

BTW, the claim of Bonfire being the most important issue was brought out by Texags user 74494. Better luck next time.

now,
stfu
ead
die
hth

It looks like I picked the wrong day to quit sniffing glue...

[This message has been edited by TexasRebel (edited 12/21/2007 12:31a).]

ahhhhhhahahahaha

Square needs to get laid... seriously.

ahhhhahahahaha, take that up with Rebel, see if one of those fake numbers of his ever panned out

You're a man Square! You ain't 40. But, you're a Man!

You're a confusing individual...get some sleep.

Do you remember the time we went fishing together? On the banks of the ColorAdo, ole buddy?

[This message has been edited by BRP (edited 12/26/2007 8:28p).]

This.... Does NOT make sense.

<-------- Hasn't gotten a fake number since 2001...


Square will now dig up a thread in the GB about a girl putting her number in my phone at the Chicken one night and then closing the lid before pressing "save" (which on my phone erases the RAM and deletes anything not saved).

Intentional? Who knows...since most phones save whatever was being done even though the lid was closed for the user to continue what they are doing once they open the phone again.

Fake? There is no evidence that says the number that she did put in was not real...it just never got saved.

More slander posted by SquareOne07?
...it looks that way.

Ha let the story speak for itself.

As to slander, just like your alleged lies that I told, which turns out you actually told (as proved), I challenge you to provide any instances of that.

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...instead of typing a number and then closing the phone before saving any information you entered.

It is very VERY obvious when one of your friends does the EXACT SAME THING.

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-TexasRebel 9/23/2007 2:18am

Oh goodness, looks like this happened to you twice on the same night! And the funny thing...you KNEW it was an obvious job not to give you their number. Yet in the very post above this, you claim not to know whether it was intentional or not...where 3 months ago you know you got jobbed and ended up jobbing yourself yet again that very night.

Funny guy you, funny guy. I can't make this stuff up, it's that good.

When your schiitty game is broken, blame it on the phone - always a safe bet.