I was her biggest fan growing up, The Outsiders and Tex still rank as some of my favorite books in my life.
I found this today, and it shocked me. I didn't know ANY of this! I knew that some of the characters carried over, but not to this degree!
Wow.
From wikopedia
I found this today, and it shocked me. I didn't know ANY of this! I knew that some of the characters carried over, but not to this degree!
Wow.
From wikopedia
quote:
Originating in Outsiders
Ponyboy Curtis - The protagonist of her first novel, The Outsiders , Ponyboy, under his surname, Curtis, makes a Cameo appearance in the second novel, That Was Then, This Is Now. In addition, he is frequently referred to throughout the book, both for his status as a local hero, and because Byron's, the protagonist, former girlfriend left him to make a play for Ponyboy.
Tim Shepard - A gang leader in The Outsiders and friend of Dallas, it is revealed in The Outsiders that he has a younger brother, Curly, who is briefly referenced as being "in the cooler." Tim and Curly both re-occur in That Was Then, This Is Now along with their sister Angela. Curly makes several appearances as a local thug while Tim is referred to several times but only makes one brief Cameo appearance.
Randy Adderson - He is Marcia's boyfriend in The Outsiders, and you see him later in That Was Then, This Is Now, the hippy giving Mark and Bryon a ride to the hospital.
Originating in That Was Then, This Is Now
Mark - The protagonist's best friend and step-brother in That Was Then, This Is Now, Mark returns as the hitchhiker in Tex. In his dialog he refers to getting revenge on Bryon for his supposed betrayal in That Was Then, This Is Now, by shooting him: though fortunately, a cop later states that he is expected to live. Ironically, while fleeing from his revenge on his step-brother, Mark meets his real brother Tex while holding him hostage, without either of them realising the connection.
The Golden-eyed Cowboy - The biological father of both Mark and Tex, he makes no appearances but is referred to in both That Was Then, This Is Now and Tex. A rodeo circuit rider and a womanizer, it is implied in That Was Then, This Is Now that he had golden colored eyes, which he shares with both of his sons, though Texs' aren't as vivid as Mark's. It is later explicitly stated in Tex that this was in fact his real eye color. Though neither Mark nor Tex ever realise their connection, Tex, after Mark's death, states that the hitchhiker, Mark, reminded him of himself, strengthening the argument that they are brothers. It is implied that Mason, Texs' older (half-)brother, may have realised the possibility that they were related.
Cathy Carlson- Bryon's girlfriend in That Was Then, This Is Now, she goes on to date Ponyboy of The Outsiders after their breakup at the end of the book. She eventually goes on to become a school teacher in the suburb of Garyville and teaches English to Tex in Tex.
Originating in Tex
The Kencaide Family- the father, only referred to as Mr. Kencaide, makes an appearance at the very end of Tex as Tex's new employer. His daughter, Casey, is a main character in Taming The Star Runner where his wife also makes a brief appearance.
[edit] Common Locations
Tulsa, Oklahoma Every novel at some point takes the characters into Tulsa, if only to be picked up at the airport. In addition, Tulsa is the setting of the first three novels; The Outsiders, That Was Then, This Is Now and Rumble Fish, while the remaining two take place in the suburbs. Many locations within Tulsa are also referred to, especially in the first two books, as they are set in the exact same area of town.
The Ribbon A street in Tulsa, known for Drag racing and a number of restaurants and other hangouts. It is referred to in That Was Then, This Is Now and Rumble Fish and even Tex makes a brief trip there.
Jay's and The Dingo two drive-ins, known as Greaser hangouts (the Socs hang out at Rusty's and The Way Out). Jay's is on the Ribbon. After The Dingo got bombed in between The Outsiders and That Was Then, This Is Now, both sides would hang out at Jay's.
[edit] Order of Events
Internal clues point to the novels taking place in the same order in which they were written, typically two or three years prior to the publishing of the book.
The Outsiders comes first as it is clearly set before hippies and the Vietnam war. The movie states that it is about 1966 and S.E. Hinton likely set it in 1965 or 1966. It was published in 1967, so must be set before that time.
That Was Then, This Is Now is explicitly stated to follow the events in The Outsiders by over a year (as Bryon states that the greaser/soc conflicted ended 'about a year ago' after some kids were killed). It is also stated that Hippies are now common and that social class feuds have all but disappeared since the events of The Outsiders. An internal reference puts this book in 1969.
Rumble Fish is hardest to place, as it does not reference any other book within its pages. However the upsurge of drugs and the reference to gangs going out of style about three or four years previously implies that it is at least that many years after The Outsiders. Also, Tim Shepard of Outsiders is noticeably absent and is not even mentioned, despite being from a downtown gang, implying a gap of a number of years. This and other details imply that this book is most likely set in the mid-seventies. This keeps with the observed tendency for the books to be set in the same order they are written.
Tex comes next as several That Was Then, This Is Now characters re-occur. Enough time has passed that Cathy has become a middle-school teacher (at least six or seven years, since she was fifteen or sixteen in her last appearance) and Mark has had several additional convictions after the one he got in That Was Then, This Is Now. The subtle reference to Star Wars (Jaime states that the guy who plays the smuggler, an indirect reference to Harrison Ford as Han Solo, in the movie she just saw is a doll) places this book in 1977, the same year Star Wars played in theaters.
The last is Taming The Star Runner. Travis' father died in the Vietnam War, placing him in the same age group as the The Outsiders. This and the reference to the Star Trek movies places this book in the mid to late '80s, well after even the events of Tex.