Whatever happenend to him? I sitting here listening to his Greatest Hits...so influential even today (Beastie Boys and Lenny K. worship this guy), and I'm thinking, every band who had any kind of success in the 70's gets back together in some fashion and tries to bank. But not Sly? I'm pretty sure he's still alive, but I can't remember hearing about him in over 25 years. I know drugs killed his career, but not him. Any clues?

I don't know the full story, but he became a recluse and basically went into hiding. What a shame, he is a musical genius and very underrated by the general public.

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Sly and the Family Stone managed to turn the music business of their time into a new direction. Eventhough younger people will not remember the band, their influence can still be heard in today's music. Due to the fact that Sly Stone dissapeared from the scene at the beginning of the 80s, something like a Sly Stone mythos surrounds his band. Subsequently it is very difficult to tell what really happened and depending on who you ask you will get your answers. Here are some basics:

Sly Stone was born Sylvester Steward on March 15, 1941 in Denton, Texas, but grew up in Vallejo, California. Early in his life he showed great interest in music - first singing with his family in the Steward Four in 1952 (gospel music). While studying music at Vallejo Junior College Sly began playing in several groups on the Bay Area scene - recording several singles. For Bobby Freeman he produced the hit single "C'mon and Swim" in 1964. This enabled Sly to move his family to San Francisco. Sly also worked as a disc jockey for the local R&B radio stations KSOL and later KDIA.

In addition to his radio job Sly worked for Autumn Records and produced several Bay Area bands of that time like the Great Society, the Beau Brummels and the Mojo Man.

While working both of these jobs the already well know disc jockey Sly began to look for a way to express his new musical ideas. In 1967 he founded - one could also say created - Sly and the Family Stone. This band had members from several racial backgrounds, featuring male and female members. Right from the start it was clear that this band was totally different to all the other Bay Area Bands at that time - not only because they attracted mostly a white audience.
The Family Stone consisted of Sly's brother Freddy (guitar), Larry Graham (bass), Cynthia Robinson (trumpet), Sly's sister Rose (piano), Jerry Martini (saxophone) and Greg Errico (drums). With this line-up Sly produced the first single "I Ain't Got Nobody" for the local label Loadstone which became a local hit and led to a contract with Epic Records.

At the end of 1967 Sly and the Family Stone released their first album "A Whole New Thing". Althought this album wasn't successful the next album "Dance To The Music" gave them a Top Ten hit with its title track early in 1968. This enabled the band to not only to play the colleges but also turn to the bigger ballroms. Sharing the bill with well known acts like the Jimmy Hendrix Experience. As a matter of fact it was Sly's band driving the people insane and their live reputation grew. The third album "Life" didn't produce any hits which in retrospect is hard to believe because it delivered the same irresistible dance-funk tracks.

The next album "Stand!" would stay over 100 weeks in the charts though - climbing to number 13 (4/12/69). The album delivered such great tracks as "Everyday People" (chart peak #1 2/13/69), "Stand", "Sing A Simple Song", "I Want To Take You Higher" and "Don't Call Me ******, Whitey". The latter song introduced Sly's political songwriting to the people. Another thing introduced was the bands preference for drugs. Their British tour was called off because Larry Graham got busted for possession of cannabis when they reached London Airport. It wasn't cannabis though that would - a few albums later - destroy Sly's creativeness and lead to the demise of the band ...

One of the bands best live appearances took place at the Woodstock festival in 1969. Although their appearance was in the middle of the night they could make the people wake up, get up and start dancing. Something the other bands that night hardly achieved. The band also released two non-album hit singles, "Hot Fun In the Summertime" (chart peak #2, 1969) and "Thank You (Falettinme Be Mice Elf Agin)" (chart peak #1, 2/9/70). Unfortunately, on the height of their success, Sly Stone's drug addiction became worse and he got famous for arriving late for his concerts or not appearing at all.

Nevertheless the fifth album "There's A Riot Going On" reached number one in 1971. The album also included the hit single "Family Affair" (chart peak #1, 11/30/71). Growing tension within the band led to the replacement of Larry Graham and Greg Errico. From now on every follwing album would see several line-up changes and diminishing success. "Fresh" was released in the middle of 1973 and featured new members Rusty Allen and Andy Newmark. The album reached the Top Ten (chart peak #7, 8/17/73) and produced one Top Ten single - "If You Want Me To Stay" (chart peak #12, 9/12/73). The following album "Small Talk" managed to reach chart number 15 (11/8/74) but didn't generate any single hits. Earlier in 1974 Sly married Kathleen Silva, who is pictured with Sly and their son on the cover of "Small Talk". The marriage itself took place in Madison Square Garden before 21000 guests. All this happiness didn't last very long though and they separated less than a year later. In addition the Family Stone lost it's magic and Sly who was happily into heavy drugs didn't seem to care anymore.

All of this didn't mean that no more albums were released. In 1976 Sly released "High On You" which was attributed to himself and not to Sly and the Family Stone. Although it is a good funk album, it didn't reach a high chart position. "High On You" is probably Sly's most underrated album and despite all of his drug problems one can still hear Sly's talent. The next album "Heard Ya Missed Me, Well I'm Back" (1976) is a rather simple album compared to his predecessor. It should be mentioned that it was attributed to Sly and the Family Stone again, including several new members - one of them being Sound Hole's Johnny Colla who would team up with Huey Lewis and the News a few years later.

Sly would release two more albums "Back On The Right Track" (1979) and "Ain't But The One Way" (1982) - both of them received almost no attention. Not because the music on these albums is bad, it's just that Sly kept repeating himself and people expected something else. Once being able to change musical trends he no longer was able to re-invent himself. What else can be said - between those last two albums Sly did a little bit of touring on his own and with George Clinton's P-Funk All Stars. He appeared on Jesse Johnson's 1986 R&B hit "Crazay" and on the "Soul Man" soundtrack singing a duet with Martha Davis. In 1987 he was once again imprisoned for drug possession. His last public appearance was in 1993 for his induction to the Rock&Roll Hall of Fame.

All of this is quite depressing for those who truly love Sly's music. Nevertheless, people who don't know Sly and the Family Stone should check out their music, especially the early works. The music is full of creativeness and influenced a whole generation.

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Another thing I think you could say about Sly is he invented the black dance music that prevailed up till rap music came along. Janet Jackson totally ripped Sly off on one of her hits off Control. Also, think Cameo, Gap Band, Kool and the Gang, and of course... P-Funk, and it all started with Sly.

I'd love to see that guy get honored at a big award ceremony, but it'll probably never happen. Hell, Zeppelin only got a couple of camera shots at the Grammys, and Janis Joplin got Josh S. and Mellisa E. covering one of her tunes. What, Velvet Revolver wouldn't want to do a cover of Heartbreaker? Doubt it...TV exectutives don't want to scare off the soccer moms. But I digress.

Two songs that Sly Stone produced for The Beau Brummels were "Laugh, Laugh" and "Cry Just A Little."

Those are great tracks, two of my favorites from back then.

I thought Melissa Ethridge's cover of "Piece Of My Heart" at the Grammys was wonderful.

She had done it before with only her on acoustic guitar, but this time the authentic Janis Joplin arrangement was used by the backing musicians.

It wailed.

Joss Stone was good too, but Melissa was channeling Janis that night.



Gig 'em, FAST FRED '65.

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[This message has been edited by FAST FRED (edited 2/27/2005 4:37p).]

One key thing about Sly was that he put the "funk" in R&B. No other artist prior to that intertwined funky base rhythms with traditional R&B.

FYI, original Family Stone bassist Larry Graham (considered one of the best of that era) is most famous for his late 70s classic love ballad "One in a Million."

Happy 61st birthday to Mr. Stone.

No doubt Sly deserves enormous credit for bringing the funk into R&B and shaping dance music of the future.

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Definitely ranks up there with Earth, Wind & Fire, Parliament, Kool & the Gang, and the Brothers Johnson as R&B/Funk faves of mine.

Tim...I second the BDay sentiments to Sly, but I think it's #64. I cannot believe he is that old...I gained instant "coolness" as a young teenager by knowing all The Family Stones' songs.

that "Contender" show is awesome!

pilgrim- You may be right. I just think I saw 61 either in the paper or on TV somewhere. Either way, the music community would be better off if he were still making music.