Rock has been relegated to an underground scene with the only big bands being over 20 years old. The only new rock album I listened to, in 2025, was Coheed and Cambria's newest album. But, again, that's a band that is over 30 years old.

I don't necessarily hold the Grammys accountable for that, though. It's still a business and they will push whatever makes them the most money. There's just something about Zoomers and not liking Rock music, as a popular genre. Literally the first generation since the 50's to basically reject Rock music. It's got to be something psychological about that generation. Perhaps a lack of true rebelliousness? I have no idea.

I did not watch the Grammys because I was watching the NBA on NBC doubleheader: Lakers vs Knicks and then Thunder vs Nuggets, but I heard about numerous celebrities making anti-ICE statements. For example, Billie Eilish has a very misguided idea that no one is illegal on stolen land. This is another example of the modern Democrats' phony "virtue signaling."

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I think it's telling of the current state of the music industry that we didn't even get a thread discussing nominations and winners on this board. The Grammys seem to have become irrelevant compared to the past.

And I think that's because most of mainstream music has melded into hip hop / pop. Zero rock involved so I personally have zero interest in caring or watching.

I also saw something somewhere showing an analysis of the variability of the music being produced and what's popular. The standard deviation in actual (I'm going to get this wrong) octaves / sound / etc in songs has basically flat-lined over the last several years. There is very little actual musical range in songs now.

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10-15 years ago this board's topics were like 50% music related. Last few years, usually only 2-3 on page 1 music related. Tells you alot.

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It also says that average age of active texags posters has gone up 10-15 years. I'm finally old enough to be a man (40) and i bet i'm below the median age of the responses here.

I'm usually heavy invested in the Best Alt Album, and this year it's just nonsense. Tyler the Creator in Best Alt? Wet Leg is good, but shouldn't have won. Bon Iver should have won easily, but the Grammy's do what they do best by trying to play make up giving it to The Cure for an album that came out in 2024.

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Rock has been relegated to an underground scene with the only big bands being over 20 years old. The only new rock album I listened to, in 2025, was Coheed and Cambria's newest album. But, again, that's a band that is over 30 years old.

I don't necessarily hold the Grammys accountable for that, though. It's still a business and they will push whatever makes them the most money. There's just something about Zoomers and not liking Rock music, as a popular genre. Literally the first generation since the 50's to basically reject Rock music. It's got to be something psychological about that generation. Perhaps a lack of true rebelliousness? I have no idea.

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I don't think its a lack of rebelliousness as many of the hip hop acts that have made it big in recent years are rebels within that genre. Plus if you think about it, rock is now a genre of music only consumed by people old enough to be parents. There are always exceptions but kids aren't going to want to listen to dad rock until they are old enough to get out of their rebellious phase. You factor that in plus the cost to find and produce music for a 4-piece band versus a person with a PC and a sound board that mixed their entire song at home and the economics pushed music labels to steering clear of chasing and pushing rock. You also can factor in the main way people discover music now is TikTok. If a song doesn't have a hook in the first 3 seconds, its not going to stay on a screen long enough for a listen.

It's not really about production costs now. The tools are cheaper and better than ever. Marketing costs would be the prohibitive input because CAC (wearing my software hat here) is through the roof since most people that can be monetized don't easily want rock. I think it's a lack of perceived diversity in the American rock genre.

I can make beats on the screen in my car. Probably has something to do with it.

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I think it's telling of the current state of the music industry that we didn't even get a thread discussing nominations and winners on this board. The Grammys seem to have become irrelevant compared to the past.

And I think that's because most of mainstream music has melded into hip hop / pop. Zero rock involved so I personally have zero interest in caring or watching.

I also saw something somewhere showing an analysis of the variability of the music being produced and what's popular. The standard deviation in actual (I'm going to get this wrong) octaves / sound / etc in songs has basically flat-lined over the last several years. There is very little actual musical range in songs now.

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Actual music question here, no sarcasm. Who is the best rock band on the planet right now? What was the best rock album of 2025? I love all genres, but I couldn't answer this for myself off the top of my head just now, so before I go to Google...

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The Pretty Reckless, Halestorm, Dorothy, Dirty Honey are some good new classic rock if you need a start to a streaming network or youtube. TPR is easy on the eyes as well.

I also really like Eclipse from Sweden for a hard rock, high energy young band.

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Chappell Roan had an ***interesting*** red carpet gown that I can't actually post here or I'd catch a ban.

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looked it up….gross

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Lathspell said:

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Rock has been relegated to an underground scene with the only big bands being over 20 years old. The only new rock album I listened to, in 2025, was Coheed and Cambria's newest album. But, again, that's a band that is over 30 years old.

I don't necessarily hold the Grammys accountable for that, though. It's still a business and they will push whatever makes them the most money. There's just something about Zoomers and not liking Rock music, as a popular genre. Literally the first generation since the 50's to basically reject Rock music. It's got to be something psychological about that generation. Perhaps a lack of true rebelliousness? I have no idea.

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I don't think its a lack of rebelliousness as many of the hip hop acts that have made it big in recent years are rebels within that genre. Plus if you think about it, rock is now a genre of music only consumed by people old enough to be parents. There are always exceptions but kids aren't going to want to listen to dad rock until they are old enough to get out of their rebellious phase. You factor that in plus the cost to find and produce music for a 4-piece band versus a person with a PC and a sound board that mixed their entire song at home and the economics pushed music labels to steering clear of chasing and pushing rock. You also can factor in the main way people discover music now is TikTok. If a song doesn't have a hook in the first 3 seconds, its not going to stay on a screen long enough for a listen.

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But every generation's youth consumed rock music until Gen Z. This is the generation that seems to shy away from the standard Rock attitude. My dad listened to the Rock of the 70's but didn't appreciate my rock in the 90's and early 00's. It was MY generation's Rock, though it was still Rock music.

I'm 38 and was in high school during the alt-rock, pop-punk, and nu-metal main years. Each of those styles had a certain attitude around them that Zoomers seem to reject. Zoomers, and young millennials, have this issue with wanting to look virtuous around their peer group. That wasn't a thing in the 90's and 00's, imo. It was a time you could say "******" or something was "gay". The music had that same abrasive attitude. I truly think today's youth shares less in common with our generation than we did with our parents' generation.

I didnt even know Amyl and the Sniffers were up for a grammy. That's awesome they won!

Lathspell said:

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Rock has been relegated to an underground scene with the only big bands being over 20 years old. The only new rock album I listened to, in 2025, was Coheed and Cambria's newest album. But, again, that's a band that is over 30 years old.

I don't necessarily hold the Grammys accountable for that, though. It's still a business and they will push whatever makes them the most money. There's just something about Zoomers and not liking Rock music, as a popular genre. Literally the first generation since the 50's to basically reject Rock music. It's got to be something psychological about that generation. Perhaps a lack of true rebelliousness? I have no idea.

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There's some good people in the rock space under the age of 30 right now, I think it's nearing comeback status. Geese and their lead singer, Cameron Winter, have put out music pretty consistently throughout the 2020s and they're moderately popular. I like their album, 3D country, as well as Cameron Winter's solo album, Heavy Metal (don't be fooled by the name it's not heavy metal). I like their music a lot but it's def not for everyone due to Cameron Winter's voice, it's a little strange. Honestly, to me, sounds kind of like Hootie Darius sometimes lol.

There's also a weird grunge revival going on in the south, mostly by people like MJ Lenderman (who I listen to extremely consistently) and the band that he plays guitar for, Wednesday. It's weird because you can listen to a Wednesday album and they'll have one song that's almost shoegaze and the next one has a pedal steel on it. Some of it is bordering on alternative country.

As for this year's Grammys go, not THAT surprised by any of it besides AOTY. Honestly thought Kendrick was finally going to get it, even tho this is absolutely not his best work. I'm personally cool with Bad Bunny winning AOTY, I really like what he put out last year.

But it's always important to note that this is essentially meaningless as far as enjoyment of music goes but I'm really happy that they're not just handing out AOTY to the most streamed pop album every year anymore, makes it more fun to watch.

Edit: Wet Leg is also pretty good.

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Lathspell said:

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Rock has been relegated to an underground scene with the only big bands being over 20 years old. The only new rock album I listened to, in 2025, was Coheed and Cambria's newest album. But, again, that's a band that is over 30 years old.

I don't necessarily hold the Grammys accountable for that, though. It's still a business and they will push whatever makes them the most money. There's just something about Zoomers and not liking Rock music, as a popular genre. Literally the first generation since the 50's to basically reject Rock music. It's got to be something psychological about that generation. Perhaps a lack of true rebelliousness? I have no idea.

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I don't think its a lack of rebelliousness as many of the hip hop acts that have made it big in recent years are rebels within that genre. Plus if you think about it, rock is now a genre of music only consumed by people old enough to be parents. There are always exceptions but kids aren't going to want to listen to dad rock until they are old enough to get out of their rebellious phase. You factor that in plus the cost to find and produce music for a 4-piece band versus a person with a PC and a sound board that mixed their entire song at home and the economics pushed music labels to steering clear of chasing and pushing rock. You also can factor in the main way people discover music now is TikTok. If a song doesn't have a hook in the first 3 seconds, its not going to stay on a screen long enough for a listen.

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I have been trying to put my finger on it for quite sometime, but I feel like Rock and Roll has been just about as close to fully explored as you can get. Hell, Hip Hop too I guess to some degree...to the point they had to resort to mumbling and sounding like special ed kids bc that's about the only thing that was "edgy" and had never been done (I make fun, but I actually like a lot of this modern rap music tbh).

I get the sense that a lot of Gen Z kids like classic rock though...as in Deftones, Pearl Jam, Soundgarden, Alice in Chains, Nirvana, STP etc etc. We were spoiled in the 90's by really really great music in ALL genres. Even 90's country is leaps and bounds better than today's country...and I feel like a lot of artists are starting to turn back to that sound.

It's just so hard to come up with a new sound in Rock music imo.

I could be WAY off base, just my honest opinion.

leftlane4passing said:

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Lathspell said:

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Rock has been relegated to an underground scene with the only big bands being over 20 years old. The only new rock album I listened to, in 2025, was Coheed and Cambria's newest album. But, again, that's a band that is over 30 years old.

I don't necessarily hold the Grammys accountable for that, though. It's still a business and they will push whatever makes them the most money. There's just something about Zoomers and not liking Rock music, as a popular genre. Literally the first generation since the 50's to basically reject Rock music. It's got to be something psychological about that generation. Perhaps a lack of true rebelliousness? I have no idea.

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There's some good people in the rock space under the age of 30 right now, I think it's nearing comeback status. Geese and their lead singer, Cameron Winter, have put out music pretty consistently throughout the 2020s and they're moderately popular. I like their album, 3D country, as well as Cameron Winter's solo album, Heavy Metal (don't be fooled by the name it's not heavy metal). I like their music a lot but it's def not for everyone due to Cameron Winter's voice, it's a little strange. Honestly, to me, sounds kind of like Hootie Darius sometimes lol.

There's also a weird grunge revival going on in the south, mostly by people like MJ Lenderman (who I listen to extremely consistently) and the band that he plays guitar for, Wednesday. It's weird because you can listen to a Wednesday album and they'll have one song that's almost shoegaze and the next one has a pedal steel on it. Some of it is bordering on alternative country.

As for this year's Grammys go, not THAT surprised by any of it besides AOTY. Honestly thought Kendrick was finally going to get it, even tho this is absolutely not his best work. I'm personally cool with Bad Bunny winning AOTY, I really like what he put out last year.

But it's always important to note that this is essentially meaningless as far as enjoyment of music goes but I'm really happy that they're not just handing out AOTY to the most streamed pop album every year anymore, makes it more fun to watch.

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Geese was on SNL the other day and they were absolutely terrible.

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cajunaggie08 said:

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Lathspell said:

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Rock has been relegated to an underground scene with the only big bands being over 20 years old. The only new rock album I listened to, in 2025, was Coheed and Cambria's newest album. But, again, that's a band that is over 30 years old.

I don't necessarily hold the Grammys accountable for that, though. It's still a business and they will push whatever makes them the most money. There's just something about Zoomers and not liking Rock music, as a popular genre. Literally the first generation since the 50's to basically reject Rock music. It's got to be something psychological about that generation. Perhaps a lack of true rebelliousness? I have no idea.

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I don't think its a lack of rebelliousness as many of the hip hop acts that have made it big in recent years are rebels within that genre. Plus if you think about it, rock is now a genre of music only consumed by people old enough to be parents. There are always exceptions but kids aren't going to want to listen to dad rock until they are old enough to get out of their rebellious phase. You factor that in plus the cost to find and produce music for a 4-piece band versus a person with a PC and a sound board that mixed their entire song at home and the economics pushed music labels to steering clear of chasing and pushing rock. You also can factor in the main way people discover music now is TikTok. If a song doesn't have a hook in the first 3 seconds, its not going to stay on a screen long enough for a listen.

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I have been trying to put my finger on it for quite sometime, but I feel like Rock and Roll has been just about as close to fully explored as you can get. Hell, Hip Hop too I guess to some degree...to the point they had to resort to mumbling and sounding like special ed kids bc that's about the only thing that was "edgy" and had never been done (I make fun, but I actually like a lot of this modern rap music tbh).

I get the sense that a lot of Gen Z kids like classic rock though...as in Deftones, Pearl Jam, Soundgarden, Alice in Chains, Nirvana, STP etc etc. We were spoiled in the 90's by really really great music in ALL genres. Even 90's country is leaps and bounds better than today's country...and I feel like a lot of artists are starting to turn back to that sound.

It's just so hard to come up with a new sound in Rock music imo.

I could be WAY off base, just my honest opinion.

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I'm 27, so I'm a little on the older side of Gen Z. My dad is in his late fifties so I grew up listening to a lot of bands that were around when he was a kid but my dad kind of kept up with music for longer than I think a lot of people do, at least people I know. So a lot of the 90s groups are the 'older' music that I prefer and I think that is the case for a lot of people in my generation. I think you can see that with some of the below 30yr rock groups right now, really attaching to the grunge/slacker aesthetic that was around in the 90s.

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leftlane4passing said:

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Lathspell said:

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Rock has been relegated to an underground scene with the only big bands being over 20 years old. The only new rock album I listened to, in 2025, was Coheed and Cambria's newest album. But, again, that's a band that is over 30 years old.

I don't necessarily hold the Grammys accountable for that, though. It's still a business and they will push whatever makes them the most money. There's just something about Zoomers and not liking Rock music, as a popular genre. Literally the first generation since the 50's to basically reject Rock music. It's got to be something psychological about that generation. Perhaps a lack of true rebelliousness? I have no idea.

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There's some good people in the rock space under the age of 30 right now, I think it's nearing comeback status. Geese and their lead singer, Cameron Winter, have put out music pretty consistently throughout the 2020s and they're moderately popular. I like their album, 3D country, as well as Cameron Winter's solo album, Heavy Metal (don't be fooled by the name it's not heavy metal). I like their music a lot but it's def not for everyone due to Cameron Winter's voice, it's a little strange. Honestly, to me, sounds kind of like Hootie Darius sometimes lol.

There's also a weird grunge revival going on in the south, mostly by people like MJ Lenderman (who I listen to extremely consistently) and the band that he plays guitar for, Wednesday. It's weird because you can listen to a Wednesday album and they'll have one song that's almost shoegaze and the next one has a pedal steel on it. Some of it is bordering on alternative country.

As for this year's Grammys go, not THAT surprised by any of it besides AOTY. Honestly thought Kendrick was finally going to get it, even tho this is absolutely not his best work. I'm personally cool with Bad Bunny winning AOTY, I really like what he put out last year.

But it's always important to note that this is essentially meaningless as far as enjoyment of music goes but I'm really happy that they're not just handing out AOTY to the most streamed pop album every year anymore, makes it more fun to watch.

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Geese was on SNL the other day and they were absolutely terrible.

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Wasn't a great performance but it's still rock music even if people don't like it (I think no one should ever go on SNL to play music, almost always goes poorly lol). They're gaining a considerable following.

leftlane4passing said:

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1981 Monte Carlo said:

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cajunaggie08 said:

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Lathspell said:

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Rock has been relegated to an underground scene with the only big bands being over 20 years old. The only new rock album I listened to, in 2025, was Coheed and Cambria's newest album. But, again, that's a band that is over 30 years old.

I don't necessarily hold the Grammys accountable for that, though. It's still a business and they will push whatever makes them the most money. There's just something about Zoomers and not liking Rock music, as a popular genre. Literally the first generation since the 50's to basically reject Rock music. It's got to be something psychological about that generation. Perhaps a lack of true rebelliousness? I have no idea.

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I don't think its a lack of rebelliousness as many of the hip hop acts that have made it big in recent years are rebels within that genre. Plus if you think about it, rock is now a genre of music only consumed by people old enough to be parents. There are always exceptions but kids aren't going to want to listen to dad rock until they are old enough to get out of their rebellious phase. You factor that in plus the cost to find and produce music for a 4-piece band versus a person with a PC and a sound board that mixed their entire song at home and the economics pushed music labels to steering clear of chasing and pushing rock. You also can factor in the main way people discover music now is TikTok. If a song doesn't have a hook in the first 3 seconds, its not going to stay on a screen long enough for a listen.

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I have been trying to put my finger on it for quite sometime, but I feel like Rock and Roll has been just about as close to fully explored as you can get. Hell, Hip Hop too I guess to some degree...to the point they had to resort to mumbling and sounding like special ed kids bc that's about the only thing that was "edgy" and had never been done (I make fun, but I actually like a lot of this modern rap music tbh).

I get the sense that a lot of Gen Z kids like classic rock though...as in Deftones, Pearl Jam, Soundgarden, Alice in Chains, Nirvana, STP etc etc. We were spoiled in the 90's by really really great music in ALL genres. Even 90's country is leaps and bounds better than today's country...and I feel like a lot of artists are starting to turn back to that sound.

It's just so hard to come up with a new sound in Rock music imo.

I could be WAY off base, just my honest opinion.

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I'm 27, so I'm a little on the older side of Gen Z. My dad is in his late fifties so I grew up listening to a lot of bands that were around when he was a kid but my dad kind of kept up with music for longer than I think a lot of people do, at least people I know. So a lot of the 90s groups are the 'older' music that I prefer and I think that is the case for a lot of people in my generation. I think you can see that with some of the below 30yr rock groups right now, really attaching to the grunge/slacker aesthetic that was around in the 90s.

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Nice...I went to HS in the mid-late 90's and "classic rock" aka rock music from the 70's was mostly what I listened to. I loved 90's rock for the most part, but didn't fully appreciate it until later in life. I remember sitting around our house in college around 2002 and 2003 and me and my roomies venting about how rock music was virtually dead, with very few exceptions, and excluding some of the Heavy Metal stuff.

leftlane4passing said:

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TXAG 05 said:

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leftlane4passing said:

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Lathspell said:

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Rock has been relegated to an underground scene with the only big bands being over 20 years old. The only new rock album I listened to, in 2025, was Coheed and Cambria's newest album. But, again, that's a band that is over 30 years old.

I don't necessarily hold the Grammys accountable for that, though. It's still a business and they will push whatever makes them the most money. There's just something about Zoomers and not liking Rock music, as a popular genre. Literally the first generation since the 50's to basically reject Rock music. It's got to be something psychological about that generation. Perhaps a lack of true rebelliousness? I have no idea.

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There's some good people in the rock space under the age of 30 right now, I think it's nearing comeback status. Geese and their lead singer, Cameron Winter, have put out music pretty consistently throughout the 2020s and they're moderately popular. I like their album, 3D country, as well as Cameron Winter's solo album, Heavy Metal (don't be fooled by the name it's not heavy metal). I like their music a lot but it's def not for everyone due to Cameron Winter's voice, it's a little strange. Honestly, to me, sounds kind of like Hootie Darius sometimes lol.

There's also a weird grunge revival going on in the south, mostly by people like MJ Lenderman (who I listen to extremely consistently) and the band that he plays guitar for, Wednesday. It's weird because you can listen to a Wednesday album and they'll have one song that's almost shoegaze and the next one has a pedal steel on it. Some of it is bordering on alternative country.

As for this year's Grammys go, not THAT surprised by any of it besides AOTY. Honestly thought Kendrick was finally going to get it, even tho this is absolutely not his best work. I'm personally cool with Bad Bunny winning AOTY, I really like what he put out last year.

But it's always important to note that this is essentially meaningless as far as enjoyment of music goes but I'm really happy that they're not just handing out AOTY to the most streamed pop album every year anymore, makes it more fun to watch.

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Geese was on SNL the other day and they were absolutely terrible.

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Wasn't a great performance but it's still rock music even if people don't like it (I think no one should ever go on SNL to play music, almost always goes poorly lol). They're gaining a considerable following.

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I was so excited to see a rock band on SNL then about 90 sec in all my excitement was gone. I've seen numerous people say that performance wasn't a good representation of them. They definitely didnt put their best foot forward.

1981 Monte Carlo said:

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leftlane4passing said:

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1981 Monte Carlo said:

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cajunaggie08 said:

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Lathspell said:

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Rock has been relegated to an underground scene with the only big bands being over 20 years old. The only new rock album I listened to, in 2025, was Coheed and Cambria's newest album. But, again, that's a band that is over 30 years old.

I don't necessarily hold the Grammys accountable for that, though. It's still a business and they will push whatever makes them the most money. There's just something about Zoomers and not liking Rock music, as a popular genre. Literally the first generation since the 50's to basically reject Rock music. It's got to be something psychological about that generation. Perhaps a lack of true rebelliousness? I have no idea.

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I don't think its a lack of rebelliousness as many of the hip hop acts that have made it big in recent years are rebels within that genre. Plus if you think about it, rock is now a genre of music only consumed by people old enough to be parents. There are always exceptions but kids aren't going to want to listen to dad rock until they are old enough to get out of their rebellious phase. You factor that in plus the cost to find and produce music for a 4-piece band versus a person with a PC and a sound board that mixed their entire song at home and the economics pushed music labels to steering clear of chasing and pushing rock. You also can factor in the main way people discover music now is TikTok. If a song doesn't have a hook in the first 3 seconds, its not going to stay on a screen long enough for a listen.

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I have been trying to put my finger on it for quite sometime, but I feel like Rock and Roll has been just about as close to fully explored as you can get. Hell, Hip Hop too I guess to some degree...to the point they had to resort to mumbling and sounding like special ed kids bc that's about the only thing that was "edgy" and had never been done (I make fun, but I actually like a lot of this modern rap music tbh).

I get the sense that a lot of Gen Z kids like classic rock though...as in Deftones, Pearl Jam, Soundgarden, Alice in Chains, Nirvana, STP etc etc. We were spoiled in the 90's by really really great music in ALL genres. Even 90's country is leaps and bounds better than today's country...and I feel like a lot of artists are starting to turn back to that sound.

It's just so hard to come up with a new sound in Rock music imo.

I could be WAY off base, just my honest opinion.

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I'm 27, so I'm a little on the older side of Gen Z. My dad is in his late fifties so I grew up listening to a lot of bands that were around when he was a kid but my dad kind of kept up with music for longer than I think a lot of people do, at least people I know. So a lot of the 90s groups are the 'older' music that I prefer and I think that is the case for a lot of people in my generation. I think you can see that with some of the below 30yr rock groups right now, really attaching to the grunge/slacker aesthetic that was around in the 90s.

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Nice...I went to HS in the mid-late 90's and "classic rock" aka rock music from the 70's was mostly what I listened to. I loved 90's rock for the most part, but didn't fully appreciate it until later in life. I remember sitting around our house in college around 2002 and 2003 and me and my roomies venting about how rock music was virtually dead, with very few exceptions, and excluding some of the Heavy Metal stuff.

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I feel like everyone does this with rock tho. We're saying rock is dead now but in 2035 we'll look back and see that Tame Impala was one of the most popular artists globally for like a decade.

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leftlane4passing said:

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TXAG 05 said:

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leftlane4passing said:

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Lathspell said:

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Rock has been relegated to an underground scene with the only big bands being over 20 years old. The only new rock album I listened to, in 2025, was Coheed and Cambria's newest album. But, again, that's a band that is over 30 years old.

I don't necessarily hold the Grammys accountable for that, though. It's still a business and they will push whatever makes them the most money. There's just something about Zoomers and not liking Rock music, as a popular genre. Literally the first generation since the 50's to basically reject Rock music. It's got to be something psychological about that generation. Perhaps a lack of true rebelliousness? I have no idea.

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There's some good people in the rock space under the age of 30 right now, I think it's nearing comeback status. Geese and their lead singer, Cameron Winter, have put out music pretty consistently throughout the 2020s and they're moderately popular. I like their album, 3D country, as well as Cameron Winter's solo album, Heavy Metal (don't be fooled by the name it's not heavy metal). I like their music a lot but it's def not for everyone due to Cameron Winter's voice, it's a little strange. Honestly, to me, sounds kind of like Hootie Darius sometimes lol.

There's also a weird grunge revival going on in the south, mostly by people like MJ Lenderman (who I listen to extremely consistently) and the band that he plays guitar for, Wednesday. It's weird because you can listen to a Wednesday album and they'll have one song that's almost shoegaze and the next one has a pedal steel on it. Some of it is bordering on alternative country.

As for this year's Grammys go, not THAT surprised by any of it besides AOTY. Honestly thought Kendrick was finally going to get it, even tho this is absolutely not his best work. I'm personally cool with Bad Bunny winning AOTY, I really like what he put out last year.

But it's always important to note that this is essentially meaningless as far as enjoyment of music goes but I'm really happy that they're not just handing out AOTY to the most streamed pop album every year anymore, makes it more fun to watch.

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Geese was on SNL the other day and they were absolutely terrible.

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Wasn't a great performance but it's still rock music even if people don't like it (I think no one should ever go on SNL to play music, almost always goes poorly lol). They're gaining a considerable following.

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I was so excited to see a rock band on SNL then about 90 sec in all my excitement was gone. I've seen numerous people say that performance wasn't a good representation of them. They definitely didnt put their best foot forward.

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It's difficult for modern rock bands IMO because they're kind of genreless within the rock genre. I can listen to a black flag album and basically every song sounds similar (not in a bad way) it's just how music works a lot of the time. You have a theme for an album and then make songs that sound good together. One of the good things about the streaming era, to me, is that bands are a little more willing to put varying sounds on the same project. With Geese, they have a lot of different sounds. Going on SNL and trying to perform basically two snippets of two kinds of music that they make is a difficult task and didn't work.

Rock has a pretty large disadvantage when it comes to virality. So much of today's music (and for the foreseeable future) has to have quick snippets that fit a particular mood / aesthetic. Which goes back to that CAC I mentioned earlier.

TXAG 05 said:

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leftlane4passing said:

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Lathspell said:

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Rock has been relegated to an underground scene with the only big bands being over 20 years old. The only new rock album I listened to, in 2025, was Coheed and Cambria's newest album. But, again, that's a band that is over 30 years old.

I don't necessarily hold the Grammys accountable for that, though. It's still a business and they will push whatever makes them the most money. There's just something about Zoomers and not liking Rock music, as a popular genre. Literally the first generation since the 50's to basically reject Rock music. It's got to be something psychological about that generation. Perhaps a lack of true rebelliousness? I have no idea.

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There's some good people in the rock space under the age of 30 right now, I think it's nearing comeback status. Geese and their lead singer, Cameron Winter, have put out music pretty consistently throughout the 2020s and they're moderately popular. I like their album, 3D country, as well as Cameron Winter's solo album, Heavy Metal (don't be fooled by the name it's not heavy metal). I like their music a lot but it's def not for everyone due to Cameron Winter's voice, it's a little strange. Honestly, to me, sounds kind of like Hootie Darius sometimes lol.

There's also a weird grunge revival going on in the south, mostly by people like MJ Lenderman (who I listen to extremely consistently) and the band that he plays guitar for, Wednesday. It's weird because you can listen to a Wednesday album and they'll have one song that's almost shoegaze and the next one has a pedal steel on it. Some of it is bordering on alternative country.

As for this year's Grammys go, not THAT surprised by any of it besides AOTY. Honestly thought Kendrick was finally going to get it, even tho this is absolutely not his best work. I'm personally cool with Bad Bunny winning AOTY, I really like what he put out last year.

But it's always important to note that this is essentially meaningless as far as enjoyment of music goes but I'm really happy that they're not just handing out AOTY to the most streamed pop album every year anymore, makes it more fun to watch.

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Geese was on SNL the other day and they were absolutely terrible.

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Terrible as in "I like them but they had an off night"? Or terrible in "I don't know them but their sound is terrible to my ears?". I thought they actually sounded quite good and enjoyed the sets.

StinkyPinky said:

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TXAG 05 said:

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leftlane4passing said:

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Lathspell said:

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Rock has been relegated to an underground scene with the only big bands being over 20 years old. The only new rock album I listened to, in 2025, was Coheed and Cambria's newest album. But, again, that's a band that is over 30 years old.

I don't necessarily hold the Grammys accountable for that, though. It's still a business and they will push whatever makes them the most money. There's just something about Zoomers and not liking Rock music, as a popular genre. Literally the first generation since the 50's to basically reject Rock music. It's got to be something psychological about that generation. Perhaps a lack of true rebelliousness? I have no idea.

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There's some good people in the rock space under the age of 30 right now, I think it's nearing comeback status. Geese and their lead singer, Cameron Winter, have put out music pretty consistently throughout the 2020s and they're moderately popular. I like their album, 3D country, as well as Cameron Winter's solo album, Heavy Metal (don't be fooled by the name it's not heavy metal). I like their music a lot but it's def not for everyone due to Cameron Winter's voice, it's a little strange. Honestly, to me, sounds kind of like Hootie Darius sometimes lol.

There's also a weird grunge revival going on in the south, mostly by people like MJ Lenderman (who I listen to extremely consistently) and the band that he plays guitar for, Wednesday. It's weird because you can listen to a Wednesday album and they'll have one song that's almost shoegaze and the next one has a pedal steel on it. Some of it is bordering on alternative country.

As for this year's Grammys go, not THAT surprised by any of it besides AOTY. Honestly thought Kendrick was finally going to get it, even tho this is absolutely not his best work. I'm personally cool with Bad Bunny winning AOTY, I really like what he put out last year.

But it's always important to note that this is essentially meaningless as far as enjoyment of music goes but I'm really happy that they're not just handing out AOTY to the most streamed pop album every year anymore, makes it more fun to watch.

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Geese was on SNL the other day and they were absolutely terrible.

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Terrible as in "I like them but they had an off night"? Or terrible in "I don't know them but their sound is terrible to my ears?". I thought they actually sounded quite good and enjoyed the sets.

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Had never heard of them before, I always give the musical acts a shot, but they just weren't very good. What are some of their "good" songs and I'll give them another chance.

If it makes you feel better, they were prosthetic nipple covers. lol

I see myself
Crusades
Mysterious Love
Cobra
Au Pays du Cocaine
Taxes

Are some personal standouts for me.

leftlane4passing said:

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I see myself
Crusades
Mysterious Love
Cobra
Au Pays du Cocaine
Taxes

Are some personal standouts for me.

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Mysterious Love is ok, but they are just too soft/ artsy/fartsy indie pop for me.

TXAG 05 said:

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leftlane4passing said:

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I see myself
Crusades
Mysterious Love
Cobra
Au Pays du Cocaine
Taxes

Are some personal standouts for me.

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Mysterious Love is ok, but they are just too soft/ artsy/fartsy indie pop for me.

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Fair, I think you'll find that a lot of rock music since the 2010s has that sound. You should check out MJ Lenderman. His live album "MJ Lenderman and the Wind" is something that I listen to pretty often. Still not for everyone but I like him more than Geese personally.