Starts Jan 8th on Peacock.

https://www.peacocktv.com/blog/the-traitors-season-4-cast

This is the most ridiculously fake, stupid, but well produced reality show that ever existed.

And I love every minute of it.

There are what are considered "prestige dramas" out there with way worse scripts, that take 9 months to film what these people do in 2 weeks.

From a technical perspective, it's actually rather impressive what they're able to pull off.

Every one knows that these are paid actors who DGAF about the split of the final prize, bc of their appearance fee.

But the scripters, in less than 24 hours, have to work with, "what we've been given, what the talking heads say, how to get certain people to vote."

They pull it off FAST.

And yet, I still don't even care that it's fake.

I've been wanting to watch this as a mindless background nonsense, yall have convinced me

Rigs said:

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And yet, I still don't even care that it's fake.

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I suppose Santa is fake too? PFFFT

Just don't bother with S1. Start with S2.

Rigs said:

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Just don't bother with S1. Start with S2.

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Considering starting soon, why not start with 1?

S1 mixes celebs and civilians. It doesn't quite work as well.

S2 ditches the civilians and it works quite well.

There's no real continuity needed, so I'd got 2,3, then 1.

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Generally enjoy this show, but this is the worst cast they've had by far

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It's actually a decent one, when you consider what they are trying to do.

There are more actors and less prior drama that no one actually cares about that has bogged other seasons down.

It all depends on who they pick as traitors.

Lisa Rinna will run the show. Stephen Colletti will have something to say.
Survivor Rob will too. Some combination of them will be involved. It's unlikely they will choose Rob- it's too obvious, and it's better off he stir up sht on the side.

Lipinski and Weir are good casting, but will broken up immediately. I'll actually bet they make Lipinski a traitor, but she gets quickly snuffed out.

Hope the traitors work with each other longer this season. I agree that S2 is the better starting point if getting into the show before the season starts, just for watching John Bercow interact with the other players

The partial entertainment this season will be the RHAP staff critiquing their boss' gameplay.

This is a decent summary of everyone's chances.

Power Rankings

Of course, 3 episodes of ridiculousness.

As expected, Lisa Rinna runs the show. There are quite a few more real obnoxious personalities than in past seasons, along with some real wastes of space.

My favorite will always remain the ridiculously stupid challenges, and the time stamps that come along with them. It's like guys, no one believes you idiots figured out how to row a boat back and forth that many times in 45 mins, or run around and find 10 skulls and stack them in 10 minutes. Like it's all absurd, which is why more than half of them can't even fake act enough to care.

This stuff on Survivor lasts like 3+hours, they aren't getting it done in 45 mins.

And, yet, knowing every episode is shot in one day, it's slightly legit.

Is this a spoiler free thread or how we doing this?

Love Island Rob was surprising in his role. Put himself in a decent position so far. Three of the players I was interested in watching compete this season are already eliminated.

Scotty Flamingo said:

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Is this a spoiler free thread or how we doing this?

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Typically, if it has aired it is free to discuss. I may black out murders/votes past episode 1 to be courteous.

Two big coalitions this time.

Gamers: Ian, Tiffany, Natalie, Rob C, Yam Yam
Bravo: Candiace, Caroline, Dorinda, Porsha, Lisa

I have only watched Episode 1

• Rapaport gives zero effs
• Alabama Rob is smarter than I thought
• Candiace is sloppy
• Maura is a dud
• The secret traitor twist is designed to allow producer interference. They can't have their "stars" voted out early.

The secret traitor idea is stupid, really just designed for drama in the turret.

It's not like there's integrity in this game anyway, producers can just tell them "no" if they want to vote someone off the producers don't want them to.

Rigs said:

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The secret traitor idea is stupid, really just designed for drama in the turret.

It's not like there's integrity in this game anyway, producers can just tell them "no" if they want to vote someone off the producers don't want them to.

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I kinda like the idea. I've only seen the first episode though so we will see.

Ep 1 spoilers

I was disappointed seeing Ian go out so early. I was pulling for him.

This guy is really pissing me off. He is pretty self righteous.

zap said:

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This guy is really pissing me off. He is pretty self righteous.

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He pissed off everyone who watched his season of the bachelor too.

The traitors are barely breaking a sweat with these non-gamer loudmouths doing the work for them.

They are just voting off people they don't like. What a bunch of maroons.

ElephantRider said:

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Generally enjoy this show, but this is the worst cast they've had by far

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Yeah, all the other seasons had top tier D list celebs. This season they are clearly scraping the bottom of the D list celebs barrel.

Lisa fkn Rinna is fantastic, much higher than DList, it will take them weeks to get her out.

Tara Lipinski/Jonny Weir, who I actually think are quite solid for this show and perfectly timed, are coming on as they need to.

Stephen Colletti is sitting in the back, but will likely get recruited once they get a traitor out.

Seems like the first big mistake by Rob, drawing first blood against another traitor. Also bad timing since they can't talk it out in the turret before the dinner party/gala thing.

Im watching season 1 and kate is the best thing that's happened to reality tv

tk for tu juan said:

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Seems like the first big mistake by Rob, drawing first blood against another traitor. Also bad timing since they can't talk it out in the turret before the dinner party/gala thing.

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I still think it was the right move for him to make. Sure, maybe Colton would have had his blinders for Rob up and not think much about if Rob had voted Ron. But someone else may have noticed. It sucks for Lisa but she got sloppy first and got lucky that it took this long for someone to point it out. Sure, Traitors want to protect each other but why sacrifice your own game. We'll see if Lisa is out for revenge on Rob now.

Pulling the victim out of the room as they scream bloody murder at murderer, nice. Another traitor ****show season. Can't even make it back to the turret without already throwing each other under the bus.

swimmerbabe11 said:

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Im watching season 1 and kate is the best thing that's happened to reality tv

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I never watched Below Deck so it took awhile to come around on her. Toughing it out in the end of the cabin to help get the team win was a turning point.

I would not have made it through the cabin. I'm not gonna lie. I could deal with rats. I could deal with bugs on the ground, but falling from the sky on my head and down my clothes? Absolutely not.

I dont know any if the reality people, she just has amazing one liners.

The season 2 traitors sucked at their job though

Season 4 is a mess. It's all fake, which we know.

They got rid of Lisa fkn Rinna.

They're going to have to replace her. I assume that is Tara Lipinski.

The time on the challenges remains amazing. I know you idiots did not complete all that in 30 minutes.

I'm just here to complain about Maura. Girl can't even pronounce Traitors correctly.