Is it me or are Carol and the other humans left the most unlikable characters possible?

This part in the Wikipedia description of the series is interesting, Obviously trying to avoid a repeat 308 Negra Arroyo Lane.

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For exterior shots, Carol's cul-de-sac was temporarily constructed in West Mesa outside of Albuquerque, including Carol's home exteriors and interiors, six surrounding homes, a park, and roadways

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Reno Hightower said:

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An entity of some sort has created heaven on earth, but Carol is the only person who sees it as hell.

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Resistance is futile.

Carol is the only one who doesn't have any real attachments left.

The rest of them are still holding onto hope that their remaining family is "real" (or enjoying their harem).

Diggity said:

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Carol is the only one who doesn't have any real attachments left.

The rest of them are still holding onto hope that their remaining family is "real" (or enjoying their harem).

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Yep...but man, if over night my family became part of one collective hive-brained human and my pre-K daughter was simultaneously a brain surgeon and a rocket scientist and a hedge fund manager, I'd be freakin the F out almost as if I had lost them. You're right though, they still have something to hold onto and at least a shred of hope of getting them back.

On second thought, after witnessing that harem, and Ana's submissiveness, if only my wife came down with it...

Carol should ask if it is possible for an infected person to become uninfected. And if so, ask one of them to uninfected themselves. THEN ask that person if they would willingly go back since they know both sides.

Also, what happens when the food in the stores goes stale? And when do the infected eat? I don't think they have ever shown that.

El Gallo Blanco said:

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spanky said:

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Is it me or are Carol and the other humans left the most unlikable characters possible?

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Carol is the only likeable one to me. It's funny to me that so many viewers seem to hate her. She is the only one responding rationally and accordingly. Every single one of us would be freaking the F out in that situation, and infuriated by those who want to act as if all is well and nothing has happened.

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Carol would hate you. She's cynical and loathing. But funny.

aTmAg said:

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Carol should ask if it is possible for an infected person to become uninfected. And if so, ask one of them to uninfected themselves. THEN ask that person if they would willingly go back since they know both sides.

Also, what happens when the food in the stores goes stale? And when do the infected eat? I don't think they have ever shown that.

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To be fair, it's only been a few days right? Gilligan's no rookie, he'll address this at some pt.

El Gallo Blanco said:

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aTmAg said:

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Carol should ask if it is possible for an infected person to become uninfected. And if so, ask one of them to uninfected themselves. THEN ask that person if they would willingly go back since they know both sides.

Also, what happens when the food in the stores goes stale? And when do the infected eat? I don't think they have ever shown that.

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To be fair, it's only been a few days right? Gilligan's no rookie, he'll address this at some pt.

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I'm not claiming that Gilligan is a rookie. I thought Carol was going to ask this question. She seems to be asking all the right ones so far (other than that).

Robahn looked a little bit like Jesus. So Lady Pirate looks a little bit like female Jesus?

Carol is incredibly flawed. Probably why you get people either loving her or hating her.

But that's the point.

She's the opposite of the "perfect" hive that the rest of the human species has become. They lost all humanity and individuality but are happy and all knowing (as much as humans can be).

Loving the show so far.

Fun premise to a show! Rhea is fantastic. Shot in your typical Vince-esque style. Looking forward to the viewership numbers guys chiming in later on in the season. Think I read this has gotten greenlit for S2 already - hopefully it catches on!

aTmAg said:

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El Gallo Blanco said:

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aTmAg said:

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Carol should ask if it is possible for an infected person to become uninfected. And if so, ask one of them to uninfected themselves. THEN ask that person if they would willingly go back since they know both sides.

Also, what happens when the food in the stores goes stale? And when do the infected eat? I don't think they have ever shown that.

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To be fair, it's only been a few days right? Gilligan's no rookie, he'll address this at some pt.

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I'm not claiming that Gilligan is a rookie. I thought Carol was going to ask this question. She seems to be asking all the right ones so far (other than that).

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My bad, my response was more with this in mind...

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Also, what happens when the food in the stores goes stale? And when do the infected eat? I don't think they have ever shown that.

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Given how quickly and coordinated they have been with the cleanup, i imagine food production is well in hand.

Premise of the show is pretty original and interesting. I have to remind myself to quit asking questions that Gilligan will likely answer in fairly short order. The "we don't believe in killing" mantra is a curious but somewhat understandable twist. The whole benevolence thing is wild, and I certainly can see how attractive it might be to get very comfortable having your every desire fulfilled. That said, I certainly look forward to seeing if Carol can light a fire under any of the others.

Echoes97 said:

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Premise of the show is pretty original and interesting. I have to remind myself to quit asking questions that Gilligan will likely answer in fairly short order. The "we don't believe in killing" mantra is a curious but somewhat understandable twist. The whole benevolence thing is wild, and I certainly can see how attractive it might be to get very comfortable having your every desire fulfilled. That said, I certainly look forward to seeing if Carol can light a fire under any of the others.

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and crucial to the plot. If they didn't have such qualms...it would be a short show.

schmendeler said:

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Given how quickly and coordinated they have been with the cleanup, i imagine food production is well in hand.

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It should be better than ever. Every able bodied person is now working on cleanup and food. Most jobs were just eliminated like teaching, HR, arts, retail, etc.

I agree

Diggity said:

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Echoes97 said:

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Premise of the show is pretty original and interesting. I have to remind myself to quit asking questions that Gilligan will likely answer in fairly short order. The "we don't believe in killing" mantra is a curious but somewhat understandable twist. The whole benevolence thing is wild, and I certainly can see how attractive it might be to get very comfortable having your every desire fulfilled. That said, I certainly look forward to seeing if Carol can light a fire under any of the others.

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and crucial to the plot. If they didn't have such qualms...it would be a short show.

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So the infected are very vulnerable. If all it takes is for Carol to yell at them to kill a 11 million at a pop, then she could wipe out all of them pretty quickly. It may be that they CAN'T kill anybody, as that would "upset" them and cause them all to have seizures . In fact, maybe the seizures they were having for all of that time during episode 1 was because of all the death that was going on all over the world.

So maybe to them it's a dangerous balancing act. They try to figure out how to infect the remaining 13 and make being infected seem WONDERFUL. That way if they do figure that out, the 13 agree to do it voluntarily (because they could never force it). Meanwhile, they placate the 13 with all the hotties and jets so that they don't genocide the rest of their hosts by scaring the crap out of them.

schmendeler said:

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I imagine if Carol started trying to kill them purposely with her emotional outbursts they would take precautions.

Also, given the rate of 11 million a pop, and a remaining population of 6 billion, it would take 545 outbursts.

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and they could always encourage one of the remaining "non-infected" to take care of Carol for them.

schmendeler said:

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I imagine if Carol started trying to kill them purposely with her emotional outbursts they would take precautions.

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With what we know so far, what could they could do? The moment Carol decided to to genocide the world, she could just do it over and over again. It's not like they can run away while they are seizing. As soon as they wake up, she does does it again. There would be no chance to tell the other non-infected or anything.

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Also, given the rate of 11 million a pop, and a remaining population of 6 billion, it would take 545 outbursts.

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At 2 minutes a pop that's 18 hours. Would be the easiest genocide ever. Of course, our species would be toast. But she could be "if we can't have ourselves, then nobody can have us."



I guess I'm saying that with what we know, them being ridiculously benevolent and happy to serve makes TOTAL sense. They have to do that. In Carol's shoes, I would not assume that they are naturally that way or would always be if somehow the tables turn.

Yep. I was keeping it linear.

Regardless, I don't really think that's what she'll be doing. It would be a pretty boring show if that was the case.

javajaws said:

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Regardless, I don't really think that's what she'll be doing. It would be a pretty boring show if that was the case.

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My point wasn't to say that I think she will genocide the whole planet.


It's to explain why I can see why the infected are over-the-top benevolent and submissive. To them, people like Carol have infinite power. It's not necessarily that they are really friendly, against all killing, or anything like that. It's that they have no option at the moment.

Now if they can figure out their epilepsy or how to infect the uninfected, then all bets are off. I bet their benevolence goes away.

So Carol is on the clock.

aTmAg said:

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javajaws said:

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Regardless, I don't really think that's what she'll be doing. It would be a pretty boring show if that was the case.

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My point wasn't to say that I think she will genocide the whole planet.


It's to explain why I can see why the infected are over-the-top benevolent and submissive. To them, people like Carol have infinite power. It's not necessarily that they are really friendly, against all killing, or anything like that. It's that they have no option at the moment.

Now if they can figure out their epilepsy or how to infect the uninfected, then all bets are off. I bet their benevolence goes away.

So Carol is on the clock.

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I can't see the point of Carol's existence being why they won't kill insects. That doesn't make sense to me.