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Kevin Spacey on Fridman Podcast

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Cliff.Booth
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Didn't anticipate this guest appearance on Lex Fridman's podcast. Then again, Lex gives zero ****s about whether people like or dislike who he interviews, which is refreshing. I haven't finished the entire podcast, but if you're interested in his work you'll enjoy it. Starts off right away discussing his part in Se7en and how Fincher's directing impacted the part.

dreyOO
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I was a huge Spacey fan.

But I've come to realize he's a predator and likely criminal.

No thanks. The evil flows freely from POS's like that. No hate towards Lex tho.
Cliff.Booth
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I will say whether or not you think he's guilty of what he's been accused of, it's just a very good interview. He's very forthcoming and well-spoken.
Urban Ag
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I admit I don't follow this but from what I have read, Spacey really didn't even fight the allegations. At best he committed a lot of statutory rape of underage males. At worst, much worse.

He's a complete POS predator and I have seen little to no defense to argue otherwise. He just pretty much disappeared once the charges and allegations surfaced.

If I missed something, my bad.

F Spacey

Cliff.Booth
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Well, in a court of law he did deny the allegations. I wouldn't be terribly surprised if he's guilty of some of it, but I also wouldn't be terribly surprised if he was an easy blackmail target. In any case it's really just an interview by one of his generation's greatest actors and it's about his parts and those he worked with, it isn't about the allegations.

Update - half way through Lex does bring up these allegations. I'm interested to hear what Spacey says about that.

Update 2: Finally finished it. My takeaways
- He does deny the allegations that got him canceled, which he was acquitted of, but he does take responsibility for actions that earned him a reputation in Hollywood for being a bit too forward at times with advances. He apologized and said he's sought forgiveness from those he offended. Since he's one of my favorite actors I want to believe him and that the worse allegations weren't true. I know he's an actor so maybe I'm misled, but his tone in this interview seemed genuine.
- Truly enjoyed most listening to him recount some of his favorite parts he's played and the actors and directors who he's worked alongside. Love that when he mentions people he seamlessly just starts impersonating them and nails each one. The story he tells about Jack Nicholson and his impersonation had me laughing.
- The stuff toward the end that he relays about his childhood and what a weirdo his dad was was pretty sad to hear. Had never heard any of that stuff before.
- Props to Lex for asking hard questions and being bold in telling him he'd probably made one of the cringiest social media posts of all time. You could tell it kind of offended Spacey but he rolled with it and it turned into a good conversation. As usual, Lex gets people to be pretty vulnerable and speak at length on topics you wouldn't usually hear otherwise.
- At the very end Lex asks Spacey about where he's headed and you can tell he wants to get back in the game and start acting again. Since he's been acquitted in court, I'm not sure if he'll be acquitted in the public eye, but if he can find redemption and unless a lot more bad stuff comes to light, I hope he gets the chance to do some more roles. I've missed his presence on the big screen for sure.

Interested to hear what yall think if you give it a listen.
LMCane
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saw this last night, really enjoyed it.

I watched up through where he started to discuss the charges against him

going to watch American Beauty now tomorrow night!
LMCane
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he was found not guilty by a court of any criminal actions, and found not guilty of any civil liability.

in the United States where we believe in "innocent until proven guilty in a court of law",

that means he is not guilty.
Brian Earl Spilner
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Got a good Jeffrey Jones podcast?
boy09
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Lex Fridman is so tough to listen to, i don't know how yall do it.
Cliff.Booth
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I mean, the dude has 4 million subscribers.
boy09
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Cliff.Booth said:

I mean, the dude has 4 million subscribers.
His podcasts probably help them fall asleep
rhutton125
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Loads of creepy stories about Spacey out there, even outside the formal accusations. He's in two of my 10 favorite movies but I have not revisited in several years. :/

I should probably read more about him to form a more educated opinion but it's such icky subject matter that I'm not exactly chomping at the bit to do it. But I should.
Cliff.Booth
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Yeah, I get the sense that as a closeted gay dude in both Hollywood and the theatre scenes he definitely used his status as people often do, to make advances on younger targets (by younger Im meaning much younger than him but still over 18). The fact that the grosser allegations came up from decades before and that he was acquitted of them after his main alleged victim wanted $40 m, it does seem possible that they were former casual partners who decided he'd be someone to easily get a settlement from. Also, the fact that numerous other actors who know him well, like Liam Neeson, spoke out in his defense -- hopefully means he isn't the monster he was painted as. Not that this is a good thing or excuses it, but the stuff he definitely DID do, seems frankly pretty common in that industry (Leo, J Franco), the only difference being that he was concealing his actions more because he hadn't come out while he was at the height of his career. At any moment 3 or 4 women could all in unison say without any evidence that 20 years ago Leo made unwanted advances on them or assaulted them when they were 18-20, and it would be somewhat believable because he has that reputation for going after younger women, but at the same time if there isn't solid evidence that it was done without consent or that they were underage at the time, I wonder if people would cancel him as quickly.

Or, maybe he's 100% guilty of it all, which sucks not only because he's victimized people but also because it tarnished a lot of movies that I enjoy. Similar to how I feel when a Michael Jackon song comes on.
dreyOO
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LMCane said:

he was found not guilty by a court of any criminal actions, and found not guilty of any civil liability.

in the United States where we believe in "innocent until proven guilty in a court of law",

that means he is not guilty.

That means dick. There are plenty of predators walking the streets today. I don't need to wait for a conviction when I hear about a creep's behavior.
uujm
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Brian Earl Spilner said:

Got a good Jeffrey Jones podcast?
I was at the Hollywood Production Center on Gower prepping a movie when I stepped out of the office to take a phone call. Jeffrey Jones was sitting on the couch in the lobby waiting for an audition or something. I noticed him and might have done some finger guns at him. He seemed happy to be recognized.
DrEvazanPhD
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LMCane said:

he was found not guilty by a court of any criminal actions, and found not guilty of any civil liability.

in the United States where we believe in "innocent until proven guilty in a court of law",

that means he is not guilty.
So was OJ.
LMCane
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DrEvazanPhD said:

LMCane said:

he was found not guilty by a court of any criminal actions, and found not guilty of any civil liability.

in the United States where we believe in "innocent until proven guilty in a court of law",

that means he is not guilty.
So was OJ.
wrong- OJ was found guilty of civil liability

A criminal court jury found him not guilty of murder in 1995,

but a separate civil trial jury found him liable in 1997 for the deaths and ordered him to pay $33.5 million to family members of Brown and Goldman.
DrEvazanPhD
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LMCane said:

DrEvazanPhD said:

LMCane said:

he was found not guilty by a court of any criminal actions, and found not guilty of any civil liability.

in the United States where we believe in "innocent until proven guilty in a court of law",

that means he is not guilty.
So was OJ.
wrong- OJ was found guilty of civil liability

A criminal court jury found him not guilty of murder in 1995,

but a separate civil trial jury found him liable in 1997 for the deaths and ordered him to pay $33.5 million to family members of Brown and Goldman.


There is no guilt or innocence in a civil court.
AJ02
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I watched the Kevin Spacey documentary on HBO. I came away thinking most of what his "accusers" talked about wasn't a huge deal. My impression was Spacey was closeted, was a HUGE flirt so he pushed boundaries with men he found attractive, but nothing rising to the level of sexual assault in my mind. Granted, my definition of sexual assault doesn't go nearly as far as mainstream media does, so take that for what it's worth. And almost all of them said they didn't say "no", because they thought Spacey could help them in their careers. Okay, so that's your problem. Being willing to blow a dude when you're not gay so you can get a job is more an indictment on the blower than the blowee.
oragator
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The rehabilitation has begun, he got a film role.

https://variety.com/2025/film/global/kevin-spacey-conspiracy-thriller-the-awakening-1236393030/
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