Why is Star Wars so popular?

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One of those rare movies and series overall that made the experience larger than life.

Other films fall in this category too but Star Wars at the top.

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What am I missing, why is Star Wars so popular?
You're obviously not a Jedi.
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AlaskanAg99 said:

I was 1 when Star Wars was released and I saw Jedi with my dad in the theater. It's the intersection of timing, politics, special effects and storytelling. There's nothing unique about the story but the setting is amazing.

"A Long long time ago, in a galaxy far far away...."

That's effing epic! Especially as we were learning about the vast universe at the time. It's also why Ep 1-3 are so reviled. It was a huge letdown.
You are free to hold whatever opinion you want on the prequels. It's not a universal opinion. There are several on this site who will defend the prequels. And my opinion, probably shared by many on this site, is that the prequels are far superior to the sequels. The prequels tell an important and coherent story in the saga. They were never going to be viewed in the same way that the original trilogy was. I believe that if George Lucas had started with The Phantom Menace in 1977, there likely never would have been an Attack of the Clones or Revenge of the Sith, nor any other Star Wars movie.

And that's not an attack on The Phantom Menace. It just didn't have that same sense of adventure, clearly defined villains, and wow factor that Star Wars had (yes, A New Hope, but I don't like referring to the original movie with the subtitle that was added in 1978 or 1979 1981 during a re-release prior to after The Empire Strikes Back). The Phantom Menace is a worthy addition to the saga, setting the stage for all that will come. It is political, which many find dull; I did not, as I identified with parallels between that galaxy far, far away and Germany circa 1933. Yes, Jar Jar Binks. I get it. That character is an idiot. But without that idiot, do we get the Senate request to grant unlimited power to Chancellor Palpatine? Oh, and I can point out that Ewoks are terrible in many of the same ways that Jar Jar is - put there to appeal to young children and sell toys.

I rank these movies as The Empire Strikes Back, Star Wars, Rogue One, Revenge of the Sith, Return of the Jedi, The Phantom Menace, The Force Awakens, Attack of the Clones, Solo, The Rise of Skywalker, and The Last Jedi.
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Look at the several on this site that defend the prequels.
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Classic good vs evil in the most basic non-complex way possible.

Kinda ironic too because I think the prequels kinda over complicated things.
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jokershady said:

Serious answer:
Its popularity is nothing new and was popular from when the original Star Wars movie (Its A NEW HOPE deal with it) was released.


All the old movie posters just say "Star Wars". That's so weird.
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Moral High Horse said:

jokershady said:

Serious answer:
Its popularity is nothing new and was popular from when the original Star Wars movie (Its A NEW HOPE deal with it) was released.


All the old movie posters just say "Star Wars". That's so weird.
A New Hope was not added until its 1981 re-release. Apparently getting old has me mis-remembering it being in 1978 or 1979, but that is incorrect. It was still simply Star Wars for its re-releases in those years.
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Oh and take out the laser swords and you'll get your answer real quick as to why it was so popular.
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EclipseAg said:

To answer OP:

1) Classic tale of good vs. evil
2) Throwback style to serial tales of the '30s and '40s
3) Space setting was unique and offered opportunities for cool things like robots and weird creatures
4) Decent special effects for the time period
5) Easy to understand plot


Decent special effects for the time period? Way to undersell it. They were groundbreaking special effects for the time period. I'm not sure of anything from 1977 or before that had any special effects even close to what Star Wars introduced.
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beanbean said:

EclipseAg said:

To answer OP:

1) Classic tale of good vs. evil
2) Throwback style to serial tales of the '30s and '40s
3) Space setting was unique and offered opportunities for cool things like robots and weird creatures
4) Decent special effects for the time period
5) Easy to understand plot


Decent special effects for the time period? Way to undersell it. They were groundbreaking special effects for the time period. I'm not sure of anything from 1977 or before that had any special effects even close to what Star Wars introduced.


Nothing had ever approached what we saw with the special effects and creature and ship designs. Nevermind the lightsabers, which nobody had seen or considered.

Sci-Fi before 1977 was mostly saucer-shaped or rocket-shaped vehicles and some that were more space station-like, with the exception of Star Trek vehicles.

Tie fighters and X-wings and the Falcon and the land speeder and the sand crawler and droids and the Death Star…it was a lot to take in for a kid! But adults were just as blown away.

It flipped a switch in the industry.
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Moral High Horse said:

Oh and take out the laser swords and you'll get your answer real quick as to why it was so popular.


I have no idea what you're trying to say here.
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maroon barchetta said:

beanbean said:

EclipseAg said:

To answer OP:

1) Classic tale of good vs. evil
2) Throwback style to serial tales of the '30s and '40s
3) Space setting was unique and offered opportunities for cool things like robots and weird creatures
4) Decent special effects for the time period
5) Easy to understand plot


Decent special effects for the time period? Way to undersell it. They were groundbreaking special effects for the time period. I'm not sure of anything from 1977 or before that had any special effects even close to what Star Wars introduced.


Nothing had ever approached what we saw with the special effects and creature and ship designs. Nevermind the lightsabers, which nobody had seen or considered.

Sci-Fi before 1977 was mostly saucer-shaped or rocket-shaped vehicles and some that were more space station-like, with the exception of Star Trek vehicles.

Tie fighters and X-wings and the Falcon and the land speeder and the sand crawler and droids and the Death Star…it was a lot to take in for a kid! But adults were just as blown away.

It flipped a switch in the industry.
Only one movie can be in the pre-1977 conversation: 2001 A Space Odyssey. While Kubrick did not have the motion control cameras that Lucas would have less than a decade later, 2001's effects remain as impressive as they were in 1968.
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Cinco Ranch Aggie said:

maroon barchetta said:

beanbean said:

EclipseAg said:

To answer OP:

1) Classic tale of good vs. evil
2) Throwback style to serial tales of the '30s and '40s
3) Space setting was unique and offered opportunities for cool things like robots and weird creatures
4) Decent special effects for the time period
5) Easy to understand plot


Decent special effects for the time period? Way to undersell it. They were groundbreaking special effects for the time period. I'm not sure of anything from 1977 or before that had any special effects even close to what Star Wars introduced.


Nothing had ever approached what we saw with the special effects and creature and ship designs. Nevermind the lightsabers, which nobody had seen or considered.

Sci-Fi before 1977 was mostly saucer-shaped or rocket-shaped vehicles and some that were more space station-like, with the exception of Star Trek vehicles.

Tie fighters and X-wings and the Falcon and the land speeder and the sand crawler and droids and the Death Star…it was a lot to take in for a kid! But adults were just as blown away.

It flipped a switch in the industry.
Only one movie can be in the pre-1977 conversation: 2001 A Space Odyssey. While Kubrick did not have the motion control cameras that Lucas would have less than a decade later, 2001's effects remain as impressive as they were in 1968.


The effects at the end when Dave is going on that final journey to acid trip-land are great. But the spacecraft and space suits and such were not nearly the departure from what we had seen before that Star Wars brought us.
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This. My FIL saw A New Hope countless times and said he still remembers the scrolling text and the star destroyer that just kept on going. Then there were the blasters and light sabres and other special effects. There had never really been anything like it, and with the John Williams score or was just an incredible experience.
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I don't get it. Never watched it as a kid. Finalky decided I'd try it about 5 or 6 years ago with my kids. Made it maybe 30-40 minutes.
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maroon barchetta said:

General Jack D. Ripper said:

When you say the politics, do you mean:

1. The politics in the film like space politics and parliament scenes; or

2. The politics of the creators and the resulting script?


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Bite your tongue. Nothing says galactic space opera like senate negotiations around trade agreements!
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You can kiss your trade franchise goodbye, sleemo.
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bam02 said:

I don't get it. Never watched it as a kid. Finalky decided I'd try it about 5 or 6 years ago with my kids. Made it maybe 30-40 minutes.


Your kids deserve better.
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Ha ha they didn't get into it either. Maybe they are Space Balls people like me.
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I feel like you would miss 50% of the jokes in Spaceballs if you haven't seen Star Wars
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I lost interest several movies ago, but I was around 10 when I saw the original Star Wars in the theater, and the moment the words scrolled off the page and the giant battleship flew over, I was blown away.
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Original 3 were great entertainment, even if poorly acted. They're fun movies. Most of the "new ones" are average to bad. Exceptions being Rogue One and Solo.
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Timestamped for relevance to the OP:

https://www.youtube.com/live/M12GmFYyA4g?si=yKWFJpk_nRLIFYeQ&t=1h20m05s
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When StarWars came out everyone liked it, then later only nerds liked it, now only low informed and people with 'alternative' lifestyles like it…
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Muy said:

I lost interest several movies ago, but I was around 10 when I saw the original Star Wars in the theater, and the moment the words scrolled off the page and the giant battleship flew over, I was blown away.


Exactly! I was 12 when Star Wars came out. My best friend and I saw a story on TV about it in May and we were determined to see it as soon as it came to Houston. It opened in limited release on 2 screens at The Galleria. My friend's mom took us over there from southeast Houston, I think it was week 2 of the run. She waited for 2 hours in line with us to get tickets, then we went off on our own to see the movie. I will never forget the way I felt when this opening scene ran. I was completely blown away from that first scene.

I don't recall booing or cheering, except maybe some cheering when the Death Star gets destroyed. I later saw it again with my dad at the Campus Theater on Northgate and there was definitely cheering, and most notably hissing whenever Darth Vader came on screen.

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aggiephoenix02 said:

When StarWars came out everyone liked it, then later only nerds liked it, now only low informed and people with 'alternative' lifestyles like it…


Some kids on my street made fun of me for being so excited to see a nerdy sci fi movie. A few weeks later they were all sporting Star Wars tshirts.
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I think it's great, and definitely not weird at all that you hangout with kids on your street…
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NE PA Ag said:

Muy said:

I lost interest several movies ago, but I was around 10 when I saw the original Star Wars in the theater, and the moment the words scrolled off the page and the giant battleship flew over, I was blown away.


Exactly! I was 12 when Star Wars came out. My best friend and I saw a story on TV about it in May and we were determined to see it as soon as it came to Houston. It opened in limited release on 2 screens at The Galleria. My friend's mom took us over there from southeast Houston, I think it was week 2 of the run. She waited for 2 hours in line with us to get tickets, then we went off on our own to see the movie. I will never forget the way I felt when this opening scene ran. I was completely blown away from that first scene.

I don't recall booing or cheering, except maybe some cheering when the Death Star gets destroyed. I later saw it again with my dad at the Campus Theater on Northgate and there was definitely cheering, and most notably hissing whenever Darth Vader came on screen.


So I am a software engineer who works for a consulting company that likes its people to conduct lunch and learn meetings. These are typically geared toward technical topics, but these meetings can be on any thing. We had a gal give one of the traditions of an Indonesian wedding, and a guy did one on beard care. Back in April, I did one that I titled "Movie Magic", where I talked about how these artists create the often fantastic images we see on screen. I spoke about everything from miniatures and animatronics to slit-scan photography and stunt work. I embedde short clips from a variety of titles - Star Wars saga, Indiana Jones, The Lord of the Rings, MCU, Alien, Aliens, 2001, and even Darkest Hour.

I opened my presentation with a story about being in the back yard one summer afternoon when my dad asked if I wanted to go a movie. Of course - what 10-year-old is gonna choose outdoor summer Houston heat over an AC auditorium, even a movie that said son had no interest in seeing. Having set the stage with that story, I started my presentation with the sequence that captivated millions around the world that summer of 1977. I had never seen anything like that in a movie. How did they do it?

A lot of my youth was spent reading about visual effects through magazines like Starlog, or books about Star Wars, and even recreated the opening of Empire in my garage with a silent 8mm movie camera and a die cast Star Destroyer model (no, it wasn't professional but didn't look bad for a 13-year-old with a $10 budget). I did a technical research paper on the subject in high school and a speech on the topic for Speech Comm at A&M. Never imagined I would do this topic a third time to a professional audience.
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Good story.

I remember back in high school, we had to do a presentation in religion class of an example of resurrection/rebirth in media.

I showed the clip of Gandalf The White revealing himself in Two Towers.
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Why was Star Wars so popular?

Because it appealed to all of us children beyond what tv shows and cinema, at that time, were providing.

I'm not saying there weren't adults that didn't enjoy it, but the vast majority were children. Anecdotally, family and friends I knew representing the Silent Generation and Baby Boomers were not as enamored as their kids. They weren't the ones nostalgically lining up for the Phantom Menace.

It wasn't adults that were playing with the Kenner action figures and vehicles and excitedly asking for the McDonald's glassware. It was us kids.


Why is Star Wars so popular?

Because we haven't grown up; we can't let go.

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Correct, it was good until Mark Hamil's TDS ruined the original trilogy for me.

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Thunderstruck xx said:

Correct, it was good until Mark Hamil's TDS ruined the original trilogy for me.


Didn't you learn your lesson on the other thread? Nobody ****ing cares about your pot-stirring bull*****
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That's just your opinion.

Just like I could say this website would be better off if you never posted here again.

Funny thing is, only one of us (you or I) are correct with what we just posted.
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