My brother who was Marine Force Recon says it's great. About as good as it gets for TV. Any inputs?

I love SEAL Team. Like any show, it has its ups and downs, and with 6 seasons, they have to manufacture drama. The characters and operations in the show are all fantastic, imo.

However, just about every single episode has a mission of some kind, and it is by far the most authentic special ops representation among any show or movie. The CQB in that show is simply beautiful to watch.

One of the main advisors, a producer, and actor on the show is a former CAG guy, Tyler Grey. He has made it his focus to be as authentic as possible with everything on the show, even though he wasn't in DevGru. Go watch some interviews with Tyler Grey about the show, and you can see how important it is for him that the show is authentic.

It's done so well, that I find myself pointing out stupid things in just about any other movie/show I see, now. Season 3 has a 2 double episode arc that is some of the best TV I've seen.

It's on Prime. Looks like a good opportunity for a holiday binge.

Watched the first 4 episodes. Good stuff. Hope they stay with the mission oriented episodes and it doesn't turn into a soap opera.

Episode 1 of season 7 is being broadcast today at 9pm. Do yourself a favor and don't read anything about the season. You could get some big spoilers.

Edit: Apparently I was confused by the advertising. It was just a rerun of a season 4 episode. New season supposedly coming out around Feb.

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Watched the first 4 episodes. Good stuff. Hope they stay with the mission oriented episodes and it doesn't turn into a soap opera.

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My wife and I are also four episodes in and love it.

Still struggling with Megan Draper as the lead CIA liaison. Can't get "Zou bisou bisou" out of my head when she's on screen.

Pahdz said:

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Southlake said:

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Watched the first 4 episodes. Good stuff. Hope they stay with the mission oriented episodes and it doesn't turn into a soap opera.

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My wife and I are also four episodes in and love it.

Still struggling with Megan Draper as the lead CIA liaison. Can't get "Zou bisou bisou" out of my head when she's on screen.

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Yeah, we don't really like her either…

oh I like her, but if you watched Mad Men you'd know what I mean.

on season 2, there are some tear jerkers there.

Cannot wait for February!! Season ended in a good tearjerker!

If anyone watched SWAT, it also returns around the same time....I think.

Anyone stick with this thing? Just blew through it and thought it was great. You can definitely tell when it made the jump to streaming only but it's a pretty good watch.

I still haven't seen the last season. Honestly, I was so pissed at how they ended Season 6. So freaking stupid that I didn't have the desire to move on to 7.

However, the show is still the gold standard for CQB in ANY film or show. After watching so much SEAL Team, watching any other show depicting spec ops is eye rolling.

This is a great discussion on one of the episodes with Tyler Grey, their former CAG advisor and actor:

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I still haven't seen the last season. Honestly, I was so pissed at how they ended Season 6. So freaking stupid that I didn't have the desire to move on to 7.

However, the show is still the gold standard for CQB in ANY film or show. After watching so much SEAL Team, watching any other show depicting spec ops is eye rolling.

This is a great discussion on one of the episodes with Tyler Grey, their former CAG advisor and actor:

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I watched this show a long time ago for maybe 1 season when it was on CBS, and it seemed too network TV-ish to me, and I stopped. Did it improve?

Have you seen The Terminal List? I hear it's damn good on CQB.


Edit: Also, is it about devgru? Or one of the tier 2 teams?

Season 1 didn't have as much money behind it as the later ones. I personally think the show gets very good, but I also liked the first season.

I've seen the Terminal list and didn't think too highly of it. I'm not a military guy and have never trained CQB, but I agree with something Tyler Grey said on Shawn Ryan's show about authenticity in movies and shows, and even the layman being able to tell when something is inauthentic. They do strive to do the little things as authentic as possible.

The team in the show is supposed to be in DevGru.

Lathspell said:

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Season 1 didn't have as much money behind it as the later ones. I personally think the show gets very good, but I also liked the first season.

I've seen the Terminal list and didn't think too highly of it. I'm not a military guy and have never trained CQB, but I agree with something Tyler Grey said on Shawn Ryan's show about authenticity in movies and shows, and even the layman being able to tell when something is inauthentic. They do strive to do the little things as authentic as possible.

The team in the show is supposed to be in DevGru.

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The reason I ask about Terminal List is because of this video:



Jocko highly praises their CQB in that show. Though he was never devgru as far as I know.


I do find it interesting how the Navy Seals seem to get all of the hype despite them not being the top unit. I guess it's because they write so many books and stuff.

Yeah, but Jocko isn't going to sit there and criticize Pratt's show right in front of him. I've watched other various operators reviewing different scenes in the show and they had many more criticisms.

I definitely think it was better than many others i've seen where it looks like they just got 10 random dudes, handed them a rifle and said, "go be operators!"

SEALs definitely have the best publicists in the 21st century. Back in the 80's, it was Green Berets.

But you're splitting hairs when comparing DevGru and CAG. I have no skin in that game, I love hearing stories from both units and will eat up any media that is well done.

Is Terminal List bad story wise? Or do you simply think the CQB is not as good?

I don't really have a skin in the game either, but after going down some youtube rabbit holes, I've lost a bit of respect for the seals (due to John Chapman, Eddie Gallager, etc.) and have gained respect for CAG.

Loved Terminal List - movie and book both.

Thanks for posting the links above.

I went back and forth being annoyed by Bravo 1's behavior (especially at home) and then feeling like maybe these are the head games many of these operators deal with on the regular basis.

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Lathspell said:

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Season 1 didn't have as much money behind it as the later ones. I personally think the show gets very good, but I also liked the first season.

I've seen the Terminal list and didn't think too highly of it. I'm not a military guy and have never trained CQB, but I agree with something Tyler Grey said on Shawn Ryan's show about authenticity in movies and shows, and even the layman being able to tell when something is inauthentic. They do strive to do the little things as authentic as possible.

The team in the show is supposed to be in DevGru.

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The reason I ask about Terminal List is because of this video:



Jocko highly praises their CQB in that show. Though he was never devgru as far as I know.


I do find it interesting how the Navy Seals seem to get all of the hype despite them not being the top unit. I guess it's because they write so many books and stuff.

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Elevation of the Navy Seal was purposeful by the DoD and Navy. It was to represent the bastion of US military might. Good marketing as someone has said. Exactly same dynamic as the Green Berets in the '80s. Seal training used to be considered one of the toughest of the special ops, but not really the case anymore. Delta Force has been widely heralded as the toughest (and by design unlike Hell Week, is kept in complete secrecy). Not to derail the thread but wanted to add some color to what I found was an interesting comment.

Lathspell said:

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SEALs definitely have the best publicists in the 21st century. Back in the 80's, it was Green Berets.

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Know how to tell if someone is a SEAL?

Don't worry they will tell you!

Comparing Delta selection to BUDs is not apples to apples. You would need to compare it to Green Team.

ETA: And, as far as I am aware, there's only one person who could answer that question. I've only heard of one person who has been in both DevGru and Delta.

My understanding is that Kevin Holland considers Delta to be a more difficult selection process than BUDs. As far as I know, SEALs try for Delta and not the other way around (even DevGru).

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aTmAg said:

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Lathspell said:

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Season 1 didn't have as much money behind it as the later ones. I personally think the show gets very good, but I also liked the first season.

I've seen the Terminal list and didn't think too highly of it. I'm not a military guy and have never trained CQB, but I agree with something Tyler Grey said on Shawn Ryan's show about authenticity in movies and shows, and even the layman being able to tell when something is inauthentic. They do strive to do the little things as authentic as possible.

The team in the show is supposed to be in DevGru.

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The reason I ask about Terminal List is because of this video:



Jocko highly praises their CQB in that show. Though he was never devgru as far as I know.


I do find it interesting how the Navy Seals seem to get all of the hype despite them not being the top unit. I guess it's because they write so many books and stuff.

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Elevation of the Navy Seal was purposeful by the DoD and Navy. It was to represent the bastion of US military might. Good marketing as someone has said. Exactly same dynamic as the Green Berets in the '80s. Seal training used to be considered one of the toughest of the special ops, but not really the case anymore. Delta Force has been widely heralded as the toughest (and by design unlike Hell Week, is kept in complete secrecy). Not to derail the thread but wanted to add some color to what I found was an interesting comment.

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It's not just Navy Seals. It seems to be the Navy as a whole. Of course there was that Navy SEAL movie a decade ago, but then there are the Top Gun movies too. Hell, even the Blue Angels vs Thunderbirds are night and day regarding advertisement and promotion.

It seems that the Navy considers itself to be a BRAND that needs to be protected at all costs. For example, I work at a Naval Air Station. We have an air show every year. Has the F-22 EVER been there? Nope. Why? Because the Navy doesn't want it to overshadow the Blue Angels. When you see an F-22 and the Blue Angles at the same air show, it is usually because it is at a civilian airport that the navy does not control. In fact, Air Force aircraft that do fly (like the F-16) face restrictions on where they can fly that the navy jets do not have.

The whole John Chapman saga has really grossed me out. From what I can gather, the SEALS left him to die on a hill (accidentally) and then lied about it and fought him getting his deserved MoH (on purpose). Somebody leaked the FLIR video disproving the SEALS claim and then then they lobbied for the SEAL commander to get a MoH too. Apparently they have even somehow influenced the MoH museum to give their guy his own exhibit at the MoH museum over Chapman. If true, then that is disgusting, frankly.

Lathspell said:

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Comparing Delta selection to BUDs is not apples to apples. You would need to compare it to Green Team.

ETA: And, as far as I am aware, there's only one person who could answer that question. I've only heard of one person who has been in both DevGru and Delta.

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I'm not comparing content, comparing overall 'Gruel' factor