Agree on Holland being the best Spider-Man. I love Toby though.

I'm partial to the Insomniac version, myself

I will agree they aged well. Raimi is an acquired taste and dispite loving Army of Darkness, it felt like his style didn't really correlate to a summer blockbuster comic book movie. But now I can appreciate he went for it, and made those movies his own.

The MCU movies are better. But that's ok. They're still fun.

Iron Man '08 was the only MCU movie that's better imo

Rewatching Spider-Man 2 now. So good like you're all saying

Carlo4 said:

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Toby was great as the initial one. Holland is great for the Marvel movie crossovers.

Garfield… no.

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In my experience with my kids, they all prefer the Spiderman who they first watched as Spiderman so some like Garfield.

For me, the Tom Holland Spiderman character is my least favorite. I really like Holland fine, I like all those guys, but my original exposure on Spiderman character was the McGuire and Garfield type friendly neighborhood Spiderman. The Spiderman that had the homemade suits and wasn't high tech gadgetry Spiderman. The Holland Spiderman wasn't the cash poor Spidey that would have to fix his suit himself.

I really liked Garfield, but his stories and the movies themselves, just weren't as popular.

bangobango said:

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Spiderman 2 is one of the greatest comic book movies of all time.

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Umm, no

Hellboy 2

Iowaggie said:

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Carlo4 said:

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Toby was great as the initial one. Holland is great for the Marvel movie crossovers.

Garfield… no.

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In my experience with my kids, they all prefer the Spiderman who they first watched as Spiderman so some like Garfield.

For me, the Tom Holland Spiderman character is my least favorite. I really like Holland fine, I like all those guys, but my original exposure on Spiderman character was the McGuire and Garfield type friendly neighborhood Spiderman. The Spiderman that had the homemade suits and wasn't high tech gadgetry Spiderman. The Holland Spiderman wasn't the cash poor Spidey that would have to fix his suit himself.

I really liked Garfield, but his stories and the movies themselves, just weren't as popular.

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The Holland Spiderman was cash poor and making his own suits before Stark came along. They just skipped over that part of his life where the other SpiderMan movies had a big focus on the origin story.

It also looks like the next movie will be returning to that.

Urban Ag said:

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The biggest difference, IMO, between Maguire and Holland, is the relationship with RDJ/Stark. It's a connection to something so much bigger than anything the Maguire films could hope to offer. And it is done just so, so, well. It added so much to the Infinity War films.

Backed up with two Gen X favorites, Tomei and Favreau's contributions, it's about perfect.

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Yeah, that connection to all those other movies we've seen (and specifically the RDJ/Stark relationship) does give a boost to Holland's flicks. Great point.

The Porkchop Express said:

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I still don't understand how Doc Ock can take a punch from Spider-man.

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There was a run in the comics where Doc Ock possesses Spiderman's body (comics are weird) and he realizes Spiderman had been pulling his punches the entire time.

Whos Juan said:

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The Porkchop Express said:

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I still don't understand how Doc Ock can take a punch from Spider-man.

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There was a run in the comics where Doc Ock possesses Spiderman's body (comics are weird) and he realizes Spiderman had been pulling his punches the entire time.

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Superheroes holding back is lame.

I remember TC and I talking about how ridiculous it was to have Superman fight Batman with Superman having to hold back like 99.9% of his powers.
Otherwise,it's "Batman jumps into the Batmobile and drives full speed at Superman. Superman picks up the Batmobile with one hand and throws it into the Pacific Ocean."

The Porkchop Express said:

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Whos Juan said:

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The Porkchop Express said:

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I still don't understand how Doc Ock can take a punch from Spider-man.

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There was a run in the comics where Doc Ock possesses Spiderman's body (comics are weird) and he realizes Spiderman had been pulling his punches the entire time.

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Superheroes holding back is lame.

I remember TC and I talking about how ridiculous it was to have Superman fight Batman with Superman having to hold back like 99.9% of his powers.
Otherwise,it's "Batman jumps into the Batmobile and drives full speed at Superman. Superman picks up the Batmobile with one hand and throws it into the Pacific Ocean."

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Iowaggie said:

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Carlo4 said:

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Toby was great as the initial one. Holland is great for the Marvel movie crossovers.

Garfield… no.

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In my experience with my kids, they all prefer the Spiderman who they first watched as Spiderman so some like Garfield.

For me, the Tom Holland Spiderman character is my least favorite. I really like Holland fine, I like all those guys, but my original exposure on Spiderman character was the McGuire and Garfield type friendly neighborhood Spiderman. The Spiderman that had the homemade suits and wasn't high tech gadgetry Spiderman. The Holland Spiderman wasn't the cash poor Spidey that would have to fix his suit himself.

I really liked Garfield, but his stories and the movies themselves, just weren't as popular.

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Agree completely. Holland is my least favorite.
If his movies were the first I'd seen, I probably would prefer them to your point

Which one?

C@LAg said:

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I too have bad opinions.

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Toby's 1 & 2 were great. 3 was so awful it made me like 1 & 2 less, and is one of the few movies that will diminish my opinion of you if I find out you liked it (along with Crystal Skull and maybe Ocean's 12. Never saw the last jedi but it would likely be in that category too).

Deputy Travis Junior said:

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C@LAg said:

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I too have bad opinions.

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Toby's 1 & 2 were great. 3 was so awful it made me like 1 & 2 less, and is one of the few movies that will diminish my opinion of you if I find out you liked it (along with Crystal Skull and maybe Ocean's 12. Never saw the last jedi but it would likely be in that category too).

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I'm pretty jealous of you.

Whos Juan said:

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The Porkchop Express said:

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Whos Juan said:

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The Porkchop Express said:

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I still don't understand how Doc Ock can take a punch from Spider-man.

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There was a run in the comics where Doc Ock possesses Spiderman's body (comics are weird) and he realizes Spiderman had been pulling his punches the entire time.

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Superheroes holding back is lame.

I remember TC and I talking about how ridiculous it was to have Superman fight Batman with Superman having to hold back like 99.9% of his powers.
Otherwise,it's "Batman jumps into the Batmobile and drives full speed at Superman. Superman picks up the Batmobile with one hand and throws it into the Pacific Ocean."

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God bless her, she tried.

MW03 said:

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Best Spider-Man movies:

(1) Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse
(2) Spider-Man 2
(3) Spider-Man: Homecoming
(4) Spider-Man
(5) Spider-Man: Far From Home
(6) Spider-Man: Across the Spider-Verse
(7) Spider-Man: No Way Home
(8) The Amazing Spider-Man
(9) Spider-Man 3
(10) The Amazing Spider-Man 2

Best Peter Parker: Tom Holland (courtesy nod to the voice acting of Jake Johnson)
Best Spider-Man: Tom Holland (courtesy nod to the voice acting of Shameik Moore)
Best Mary Jane: Kirsten Dunst
Best Villain: Alferd Molina as Doc Ock (courtesy nod to voice acting of Liev Schreiber)

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The Spider-Verse movies are so good. I'd actually put Across the Spider-Verse higher. Into the Spider-Verse, Spider-Man 2, Across the Spider-Verse, Homecoming, and Spider-Man would make up my five in some order I'm not going to try to parse out. As for the rest - who cares?