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Mike Judge or Matt Groening?

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Sea Speed
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Obviously Groening's shows have a longer run, but Mike judge also gave us cult classic movies in addition to his cartoons.

Simpsons has been unwatchable for several years imo but is obviously an iconic show that was groundbreaking for its time.

Futurama was absolutely hilarious but I haven't seen the newest ones yet so don't know if they continue to be good.

Beavis and butthead is obviously a classic and I have watched a couple of the new ones and they were hilarious.

King of the Hill obviously hits a note with us Texans and is an amazing show.

Office Space and Idiocracy are also 2 super cult classic movies that bolster Mike Judges career. Office space is one of the most rewatchable movies out there and Idiocracy is like looking in to a crystal ball.

I think Judge edges out Groening. Id guess most people here will say Groening.
Tibbers
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Mike Judge.
Rudyjax
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I"m going to say as a creator, Matt.

As a writer, Judge.

Office Space and Idiocracy are better than anything Matt has written.

Bruce Almighty
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You can argue that the first 10 seasons of the Simpsons is better than anything Mike Judge has done, but Judge has had the better career.
bluefire579
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Bruce Almighty said:

You can argue that the first 10 seasons of the Simpsons is better than anything Mike Judge has done, but Judge has had the better career.
I'd argue the initial run of Futurama is also better. I feel like it's more that Groening has higher highs and lower lows, while Judge has been more consistent if you're looking at total body of work.
Brian Earl Spilner
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Groening and it's not close.

The golden era of Simpsons (S3-8) is all time television.
Rudyjax
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Bruce Almighty said:

You can argue that the first 10 seasons of the Simpsons is better than anything Mike Judge has done, but Judge has had the better career.


Except how many of those did he wrote? That's why I said creator.
Bruce Almighty
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Personally, I think Office Space is the best thing from the two.
Sea Speed
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Bruce Almighty said:

Personally, I think Office Space is the best thing from the two.


Thst movie was hilarious before I even knew what office culture was like. That movie is so good.
Definitely Not A Cop
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Judge. Silicon Valley is better than anything Groening has ever done. And that's not even my favorite thing he's done.

I celebrate his entire catalog.
Rudyjax
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Definitely Not A Cop said:


I celebrate his entire collection.
Definitely Not A Cop
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And I just realized I screwed up the quote.

Lathspell
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Definitely Not A Cop said:

Judge. Silicon Valley is better than anything Groening has ever done. And that's not even my favorite thing he's done.

I celebrate his entire catalog.


Way too long before silicon Valley was brought up. The finale to season 1 is so epic, and it's not even the funniest thing in that show.

God, that show was funny...
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The Simpsons was a huge part of my youth but I haven't kept up with it even though it's still going. At this point in my life I'd go with Judge. I rewatched a ton of King of the Hill over the past couple of years and I think it resonates more with me than The Simpsons. I watched it when it was out but as an adult it's even better, especially since I don't live in TX anymore it helps to bring me back. I also did a complete rewatch of Silicon Valley not long ago and it's probably a top 3 TV show all time for me now, it's truly incredible. Office Space came out when I was in college and was also huge deal.
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DallasTeleAg said:

Definitely Not A Cop said:

Judge. Silicon Valley is better than anything Groening has ever done. And that's not even my favorite thing he's done.

I celebrate his entire catalog.


Way too long before silicon Valley was brought up. The finale to season 1 is so epic, and it's not even the funniest thing in that show.

God, that show was funny...


Apparently, on Silicon Valley they went so far to ensure all their math was correct that they hired a Stanford professor to validate the whole mean jerk time algorithm.
Tobias Funke
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I love every show and movie mentioned on this thread EXCEPT FOR Futurama. I have given that show so many tries and it just irritates the hell out of me. I think the voices are annoying, I don't think the show is very funny, and I can't get into the characters.

There, got that off my chest. Futurama is way overrated.
AustinAg2K
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Tobias Funke said:

I love every show and movie mentioned on this thread EXCEPT FOR Futurama. I have given that show so many tries and it just irritates the hell out of me. I think the voices are annoying, I don't think the show is very funny, and I can't get into the characters.

There, got that off my chest. Futurama is way overrated.


You're wrong.
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Tobias Funke said:

I love every show and movie mentioned on this thread EXCEPT FOR Futurama. I have given that show so many tries and it just irritates the hell out of me. I think the voices are annoying, I don't think the show is very funny, and I can't get into the characters.

There, got that off my chest. Futurama is way overrated.


Bruce Almighty
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Tobias Funke said:

I love every show and movie mentioned on this thread EXCEPT FOR Futurama. I have given that show so many tries and it just irritates the hell out of me. I think the voices are annoying, I don't think the show is very funny, and I can't get into the characters.

There, got that off my chest. Futurama is way overrated.


I like Futurama more than The Simpsons.
Rudyjax
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Tobias Funke said:

I love every show and movie mentioned on this thread EXCEPT FOR Futurama. I have given that show so many tries and it just irritates the hell out of me. I think the voices are annoying, I don't think the show is very funny, and I can't get into the characters.

There, got that off my chest. Futurama is way overrated.
Watch Jurassic Bark.
Sea Speed
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Definitely Not A Cop said:

Judge. Silicon Valley is better than anything Groening has ever done. And that's not even my favorite thing he's done.

I celebrate his entire catalog.


Holy crap i can't believe I forgot about silicon Valley. The dick joke on that show is better than anything groening ever did. Jeeze I'm dumb.
Sea Speed
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Bruce Almighty said:

Tobias Funke said:

I love every show and movie mentioned on this thread EXCEPT FOR Futurama. I have given that show so many tries and it just irritates the hell out of me. I think the voices are annoying, I don't think the show is very funny, and I can't get into the characters.

There, got that off my chest. Futurama is way overrated.


I like Futurama more than The Simpsons.


10000% this.
JJxvi
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Futurama is the best animated TV show of all time (King of the Hill might be #2 though)
512Ag
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Man, that was a fail of a post. Ignore.
aggiebird02
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Judge, and it's not even close. His humor is smarter, and timeless. Like others have said, the Simpsons was awesome for a few years, but when was the last time you watched? I see something by Judge on a weekly basis.

HAVE Y'ALL WATCHED THE NEW BEAVIS & BUTTHEAD?!?! It's like Mike Judge has had a couple of decades to refine and imagine his masterpiece. It's incredible. But after three plus decades of the Simpsons it's worse than ever. Does the Simpsons even have a pulse? They dead…
JJxvi
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I'm just waiting for the "Stephen King or Michael Crichton?" thread.
aggiebird02
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I believe, truly (in my heart), that the vast majority of posters on this thread haven't watched the new Beavis & Butthead on Paramount +.

Until y'all have watched a couple of episodes of the new Beavis & Butthead, y'all's opinions mean NOTHING. Y'all are ignorant and are not up to date on the topic…
Philo B 93
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I never realized they were different people. Kind of like Michael Jackson and Prince. You know they were never in the same room at the same time.
nai06
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I don't think the newer seasons of the Simpsons are as terrible as people make them out to be. It's just that the first 10 or so came along at a time when it was new, edgy, and unlike anything else on television. They were also really damn good.

The newer stuff is good but they aren't the only game in town when it comes to topical adult humor cartoons. So when you stack them up to the earlier seasons, it's always going to be a losing battle every time.
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aggiephoenix02 said:

I believe, truly (in my heart), that the vast majority of posters on this thread haven't watched the new Beavis & Butthead on Paramount +.

Until y'all have watched a couple of episodes of the new Beavis & Butthead, y'all's opinions mean NOTHING. Y'all are ignorant and are not up to date on the topic…


Its so good
BadMoonRisin
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Judge. Simpson's is lame af.

Idiocracy

King of the Hill

B&B

The Syrup one that I never saw. probably better than the simpsons.
hph6203
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We can all agree that Seth Mcfarlane sucks, right?
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Counterpoint
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hph6203 said:

We can all agree that Seth Mcfarlane sucks, right?

TXAG 05
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An underrated show of Judges was The Goode Family. Basically King of the Hill but with California hippies. It was pretty funny, but it was cancelled after one season. Guess the critics thought it was perfectly fine to make fun of Texans, but not Californians.

As someone who has watched the Simpsons since they were shorts on the Tracey Ullman show, I'm going to have to lean towards Judge for the body of work, plus he is a lot more involved, writes, and does voice work.
Bruce Almighty
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TXAG 05 said:

An underrated show of Judges was The Goode Family. Basically King of the Hill but with California hippies. It was pretty funny, but it was cancelled after one season. Guess the critics thought it was perfectly fine to make fun of Texans, but not Californians.
It got cancelled because nobody watched it.
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