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maroon barchetta
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DallasTeleAg said:

I don't even know what point you're trying to make. Are you saying all streaming services should be free? Are you saying Netflix is responsible for your oversubscription of streaming services?

We're talking about entertainment, which is not a natural right nor necessary to survive. It is very simple, pay for it if you want it, don't pay for it if you don't.

Or go get a hobby.


I have considered ditching all of our streaming services since picking up guitar! As long as I can watch guitar stuff on YouTube I'm fine, and I don't need a subscription for that!
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DallasTeleAg said:

I don't even know what point you're trying to make. Are you saying all streaming services should be free? Are you saying Netflix is responsible for your oversubscription of streaming services?

We're talking about entertainment, which is not a natural right nor necessary to survive. It is very simple, pay for it if you want it, don't pay for it if you don't.

Or go get a hobby.

Not at all. And quite a stretch to get that from my post. My post was simply in response to your "it really isn't that much money, you can afford it" comment.

I 100% agree with your "pay for it if you want, don't if you don't" comment.

Not arguing that what Netflix is doing is "wrong" in any way, shape, or form. If anything, I agree with them. Was simply pointing out alternative views as this is a discussion forum….
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It's funny as I only keep my Netflix subscription as multiple family members use my login and I'd feel bad if I cancelled it. Now I won't feel bad if they are truly kicked off.
Complete Idiot
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htxag09 said:

It's their right to change the policy. But lets not pretend like they didn't encourage it from the get go and say people sharing passwords are stealing....

I can tell you our specific example...my in laws have Netflix, probably mainly for their kids. We use their account and my wife's brother uses their account. None of us use it enough or like any of the content enough to justify paying for it. They've already said they'll cancel if/when this happens. We don't use it enough to care to pay for our own subscription when they do....
Tanya 93
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So when Demon Spawn goes to college, he can't use my account?
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htxag09 said:

It's their right to change the policy. But lets not pretend like they didn't encourage it from the get go and say people sharing passwords are stealing....

I can tell you our specific example...my in laws have Netflix, probably mainly for their kids. We use their account and my wife's brother uses their account. None of us use it enough or like any of the content enough to justify paying for it. They've already said they'll cancel if/when this happens. We don't use it enough to care to pay for our own subscription when they do....


People get really miffed when the mooching comes to an end.
Robert L. Peters
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Gee. So me and 50 friends can't share a sub? This ain't nothing but pure old fashioned communism.
maroon barchetta
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Tanya 93 said:

So when Demon Spawn goes to college, he can't use my account?


Hopefully he is too busy with other things.
The Collective
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My friends and I identify as one household.
oragator
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NTTIAWWT.
johnnyblaze36
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The girl I dated two years ago is going to be in for a real shocker when she tries to finish watching Ginny & Georgia and sees she's been suddenly denied.
maroon barchetta
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johnnyblaze36 said:

The girl I dated two years ago is going to be in for a real shocker when she tries to finish watching Ginny & Georgia and sees she's been suddenly denied.
The Dog Lord
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Netflix with ads is $6.99/month. Are people that bent out of shape about paying $7 for something that they watch a lot?

Netflix's selection and reasonable price has kept it as one of the few "always on" services for us, and we pay more for no ads. Still way cheaper than cable.
DTP02
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What's next? Is Golden Corral going to charge me for more than one meal when my family of 14 shows up for the all you can eat buffet and pretend that 13 of us are just there to hang out?
Jugstore Cowboy
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Oh good, a nice calm, rational discussion on the Entertainment Board free of bizarrely personal attacks and strawmen...aaaahhhh never mind.
Brian Earl Spilner
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oragator said:

If the freeloaders come off their user list Netflix wins. Think of all the server space eaten up by people not paying anything.
If they lose a few disgruntled paying folks who think they should be able to give other people free access to a pay service, they still win on net probably.
And they come up ahead if even a small percentage of those freeloaders start paying.

It's really an absolute no brainer for Netflix in todays environment.
It's always the non-paying customers and irate password sharers getting the short end of the stick.
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maroon barchetta said:

DallasTeleAg said:

I don't even know what point you're trying to make. Are you saying all streaming services should be free? Are you saying Netflix is responsible for your oversubscription of streaming services?

We're talking about entertainment, which is not a natural right nor necessary to survive. It is very simple, pay for it if you want it, don't pay for it if you don't.

Or go get a hobby.


I have considered ditching all of our streaming services since picking up guitar! As long as I can watch guitar stuff on YouTube I'm fine, and I don't need a subscription for that!

Once you get a taste of YouTube Premium you'll never go back
File5
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Your take makes the most sense. This isn't like electricity or restaurants. It's an internet based service that can scale easily. Netflix can make their contracts as they see fit for however many users on an account and customers will simply react. It's obviously not mooching if Netflix hasn't banned it before now and made jokes about it. We'll see if it's a good business decision or not.

I agree with those that say Netflix has simply enjoyed the first to market advantage, and they're all in for a slog at this point. Welcome to business y'all! Time to actually make money, try to beat the competition, and price appropriately.
PatAg
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One thing I wasnt able to find the last time I looked into this. In the past, part of the appeal to netflix and streaming devices like Roku, was you could take it with you when you traveled anywhere.
Are we now going to have our Netflix locked to only our home?

What if you were visiting your family for the holidays or something, and wanted to throw Netflix on to watch a movie or something like that? Anyone had any luck finding out how that is going to work?
Madmarttigan
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I believe the restrictions might be more device based? Phones, iPads, tablets I think should work on the go but smart TVs are locked to a home base.
Jugstore Cowboy
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The announcement says you'll still be able to use while traveling or at a vacation home, but doesn't specify how the new rules will be implemented.

If it simply means the number of devices that can be used at one time are capped, and that the account owner can monitor to boot off suspicious users, fine. Whatever.

If the new rules mean that you can't regularly use in multiple locations, or that the account holder has to approve each remote use (like when your brother is staying at your beach house or something), then that could get complicated and result in cancellations.

I'd imagine that portability and the ability to share w/ multiple users were bigger selling points than, say, Stranger Things, for most customers outside of the most hardcore consumers.
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I'd be annoyed if I traveled for work regularly and my family and I couldn't both watch things.

But I don't travel anymore because work cut down on budget for it, and we ditched Netflix when it became multiple times more expensive.

And yes, storage and cloud service is getting more expensive. Streaming video to fewer people is probably a good place to start.
Saxsoon
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Netflix is vastly overestimating their value. Their social impressions and reach are gonna tank from this
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The Dog Lord said:

Netflix with ads is $6.99/month. Are people that bent out of shape about paying $7 for something that they watch a lot?

Netflix's selection and reasonable price has kept it as one of the few "always on" services for us, and we pay more for no ads. Still way cheaper than cable.


Isn't the resolution on this plan like 720p? Lol no.
$3 Sack of Groceries
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This thread is a nice summation of why our country is going broke and won't recover.
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Tanya 93 said:

So when Demon Spawn goes to college, he can't use my account?


This is the only part of this I'm interested in. Our daughter goes to UTSA. She's not really out of our household entirely for all intents and purposes. I'm not sure of a practical way for them to handle that so I guess we're going to have to figure it out. Whether that's her getting her own account or sending us $8 to pay for a separate household. I guess we'll see.
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TCTTS said:

Yeah, I'll give you the cell phone plan sharing. Ha, my parents cut me off their plan after college, when I left the state, but I get that a number of families share plans.
As a manager with 10+ direct reports spread across the USA, the monthly cell phone bills people submit for reimbursement are just mind boggling.

I've got one guy with a $150/month internet plan and $550/month on his cell phone plan.
4 iPhones, 4 iPads, at least 2 Apple watches, Apple TV, etc.

Imagine spending $8,400/year on household telecom.

And that's just service, hardware costs are on top of that.
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boy09 said:

maroon barchetta said:

DallasTeleAg said:

I don't even know what point you're trying to make. Are you saying all streaming services should be free? Are you saying Netflix is responsible for your oversubscription of streaming services?

We're talking about entertainment, which is not a natural right nor necessary to survive. It is very simple, pay for it if you want it, don't pay for it if you don't.

Or go get a hobby.


I have considered ditching all of our streaming services since picking up guitar! As long as I can watch guitar stuff on YouTube I'm fine, and I don't need a subscription for that!

Once you get a taste of YouTube Premium you'll never go back


Elaborate please.
Jetpilot86
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I'll be on the HBO Max sub that comes with my cell subscription. It's "free "
Proposition Joe
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Quincey P. Morris said:

Tanya 93 said:

So when Demon Spawn goes to college, he can't use my account?


This is the only part of this I'm interested in. Our daughter goes to UTSA. She's not really out of our household entirely for all intents and purposes. I'm not sure of a practical way for them to handle that so I guess we're going to have to figure it out. Whether that's her getting her own account or sending us $8 to pay for a separate household. I guess we'll see.

I mean, she by definition is out of the household.
Quincey P. Morris
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The government doesn't even really consider her out of the household based on permanent address. We'll deal with it one way or another, but stuff like that does suck a little and I don't think is what they're really after anyway. Like I said though, I can't really think of a way they could implement an exception for situations like that that wouldn't open it up to mass abuse.
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Swarely said:

The Dog Lord said:

Netflix with ads is $6.99/month. Are people that bent out of shape about paying $7 for something that they watch a lot?

Netflix's selection and reasonable price has kept it as one of the few "always on" services for us, and we pay more for no ads. Still way cheaper than cable.


Isn't the resolution on this plan like 720p? Lol no.
1080p on free with adds. Odd since it's cheaper than the "basic" tier which costs more but is the one with 720p.
YouBet
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superunknown said:

Madmarttigan said:

After seeing other countries complain on Reddit for the past year, I gotta admit I still don't understand the issue.

People are mad that a company wants you to follow the rules and pay your fair share?

The funny part is people are only angry because they have been using Netflix a lot and enjoy the services, but they just want to steal it.


Probably the biggest wtf ever since the advent of the internet is the idea that music and video and so on should just be...free. I get it, free information and all that and 20 years ago it was fun to find some blog about your favorite show or favorite college football team and join a forum and all that,and you can read or consume as much content as you want from amateur folks who just had a passion for what they "covered" and you get legends like Kige Ramsey, YouTube Sports happening.

To go from that to "no, I deserve the entirety of human existence to be available to me for free at a moment's notice" has been a pretty big leap but somehow thats the way it went.
Makes sense to me. More than half the country no longer pays any income tax. We've become a country of leaches so the natural tendency from most is "I deserve free stuff."

To be fair, Netflix clearly had a hand here in creating this mentality but no one should be surprised if they change their policy. Companies do this every day. Check the fine print and you will find out clauses for most anything.
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TCTTS said:

Because for 14 of those years Netflix treated money like it wasn't real or grew on trees, and basically every other streamer followed suit. But then all the sudden reality caught up with them, Netflix had one bad quarter where they didn't meet subscriber growth projections, Wall Street freaked out, and the entire house of cards fell down for all of streaming. Now it's all about tangible profit, not subscriber growth, which is why you're seeing *every* streamer going through this exact same thing… finding any way they can to cut costs, make fewer shows and movies, sell off content, fire employees, etc.
And you are seeing this across multiple industries. For the last several years, companies cared about revenue because of a variety of factors. Now that the SHTF they suddenly care about profits. I ran a division at my old company and anytime I tried to incorporate profitably metrics or make decisions even with profitability considered...I got stonewalled by the C-Suite. They just wanted to see revenue growth.

In talking with my former co-workers, they have incorporated all of the dashboard stuff I built that was on the shelf because C-Suite now cares about profits. This amuses me.

It also reminds me of the time I got my hands on marketing and realizing how utterly pointless and useless marketing metrics are. Click through rates, impressions, etc. It's all bullsh^t and means nothing. None of it can be tied to revenue for the vast majority of companies. I killed almost all of our social marketing spend because it produced literally nothing in revenue. We were just spending money because "that's what you do". Lol.

Another point....I've never been a fan of the business mentality of growing at all costs or if you aren't growing then you are dying. While there is some truth to that, I dispute it being such an emphasis for most companies.
 
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