I have first editions of IV, V, and VII (not sure what happened to VI) that I bought the day they came out. They may be the only books I still have that are worth anything. Hopefully these adaptations will be worthy.

Back in the pre-Internet days, I have a really vivid memory of walking into a bookstore and seeing Wizard & Glass on the display shelf and just being so happy that the series was continuing.

I bought The Gunslinger and It at Half-Priced books when I was about 13 (clearly my parents had no idea what sort of things were inside those books) to take to a retreat that my dad's company had in Bandera, TX at a place with no TVs. It scared the hell out of me, but from the first page, the Gunslinger was so hypnotic and fascinating, I have loved that journey.

Have you guys read the graphic novels? Wouldn't mind a Battle of Jericho Hill episode if they were to do a season of Wizard & Glass and beyond!

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Maybe this could be the rare series where the on screen ending is better than the book ending?

Not that this is necessarily relevant, but a good half of everything else King wrote before ending the main The Dark Tower story line was inside the Dark Tower universe.

Back in the day, I could rattle off every book he wrote that was part of DT that many did not realize was the case. In some cases, the book was essentially part of the main storyline (Black House) and in other cases you might randomly read one sentence or scene in a book that felt totally out of place. There was a scene in Insomina like this as well as one of his Richard Bachman books. If you had not read any mainline DT you would have no idea what it was you were reading.

IT is tied to DT. Obviously, Salem's Lot is heavily tied to it.

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Lots of references to The Strand as well. Both The Crimson King and Randall Flagg appear in many other references in other stories.

Didn't this get made with Idris Elba already?

One of the worst parts of TDT was the retconning King and his ghost writer did on Flagg, Marten, Walter…

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Didn't this get made with Idris Elba already?

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Then what was that show about? Same name and Stephen King title, I never watched the show but sure seemed like it was based on that series.

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Didn't this get made with Idris Elba already?

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Then what was that show about? Same name and Stephen King title, I never watched the show but sure seemed like it was based on that series.

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look it up and you'll figure it out.

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Didn't this get made with Idris Elba already?

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Then what was that show about? Same name and Stephen King title, I never watched the show but sure seemed like it was based on that series.

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I believe the idea was floated and maybe a trailer or two came out, but the movie was never made. Very similar to Beverly Hills Cop 3.

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Then what was that show about? Same name and Stephen King title, I never watched the show but sure seemed like it was based on that series.

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look it up and you'll figure it out.

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Ok now what? Google says it made $113 million at the box office which is a lot for a move that was never made.

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Its a shame because I think Elba could actually do the role justice in the right hands. Even if he doesn't match all the descriptions of the character.
That movie just had the tone all wrong

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That and they tried to Frankenstein like 5 of the books together.

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Back in the pre-Internet days, I have a really vivid memory of walking into a bookstore and seeing Wizard & Glass on the display shelf and just being so happy that the series was continuing.

I bought The Gunslinger and It at Half-Priced books when I was about 13 (clearly my parents had no idea what sort of things were inside those books) to take to a retreat that my dad's company had in Bandera, TX at a place with no TVs. It scared the hell out of me, but from the first page, the Gunslinger was so hypnotic and fascinating, I have loved that journey.

Have you guys read the graphic novels? Wouldn't mind a Battle of Jericho Hill episode if they were to do a season of Wizard & Glass and beyond!

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The man in black fled across the desert, the gunslinger followed

Best opening line in literature
#isaidwhatisaid

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Wasn't that also the last line in the series too?

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Back in the pre-Internet days, I have a really vivid memory of walking into a bookstore and seeing Wizard & Glass on the display shelf and just being so happy that the series was continuing.

I bought The Gunslinger and It at Half-Priced books when I was about 13 (clearly my parents had no idea what sort of things were inside those books) to take to a retreat that my dad's company had in Bandera, TX at a place with no TVs. It scared the hell out of me, but from the first page, the Gunslinger was so hypnotic and fascinating, I have loved that journey.

Have you guys read the graphic novels? Wouldn't mind a Battle of Jericho Hill episode if they were to do a season of Wizard & Glass and beyond!

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The man in black fled across the desert, the gunslinger followed

Best opening line in literature
#isaidwhatisaid

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It is a great start but WoT says hold my beer.

The Wheel of Time turns, and Ages come and pass, leaving memories that become legend. Legend fades to myth, and even myth is long forgotten when the Age that gave it birth comes again. In one Age, called the Third Age by some, an Age yet to come, an Age long past, a wind rose in the Mountains of Mist.

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Except that technically wasn't the opening line of WoT.

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Back in the pre-Internet days, I have a really vivid memory of walking into a bookstore and seeing Wizard & Glass on the display shelf and just being so happy that the series was continuing.

I bought The Gunslinger and It at Half-Priced books when I was about 13 (clearly my parents had no idea what sort of things were inside those books) to take to a retreat that my dad's company had in Bandera, TX at a place with no TVs. It scared the hell out of me, but from the first page, the Gunslinger was so hypnotic and fascinating, I have loved that journey.

Have you guys read the graphic novels? Wouldn't mind a Battle of Jericho Hill episode if they were to do a season of Wizard & Glass and beyond!

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The man in black fled across the desert, the gunslinger followed

Best opening line in literature
#isaidwhatisaid

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It is a great start but WoT says hold my beer.

The Wheel of Time turns, and Ages come and pass, leaving memories that become legend. Legend fades to myth, and even myth is long forgotten when the Age that gave it birth comes again. In one Age, called the Third Age by some, an Age yet to come, an Age long past, a wind rose in the Mountains of Mist.

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Except that technically wasn't the opening line of WoT.

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Well yeah true it started with the flashback that was super confusing om first read.

DT was great, and the middle books are probably the best things King has written. Sadly the ending (and by that I mean the last three books that he rushed out after being hit by a car and thinking he was going to die) got progressively worse.

King has always been great at world building in long books but bad at endings. So I guess there is some logic in his longest work, where he tried to tie all of his books in, having a disappointing ending.

The adaptations of his work that have strayed from the source material have tended to be the best, so I could see an outcome where the DT is turned into a great show that some of the hardcore fans (and probably King himself) hate.

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It is a great start but WoT says hold my beer.

The Wheel of Time turns, and Ages come and pass, leaving memories that become legend. Legend fades to myth, and even myth is long forgotten when the Age that gave it birth comes again. In one Age, called the Third Age by some, an Age yet to come, an Age long past, a wind rose in the Mountains of Mist.

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That is definitely not better. It is wordy as *****

Please God cast Shia as Eddie!!! He'd kill the role.

I pray this happens, my all time favorite series. I felt like Sebastian in the never ending story when I counted the letters in my name and it was 19. KA.

I'd also love to watch people who've never read the books melt at the finale

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Back in the pre-Internet days, I have a really vivid memory of walking into a bookstore and seeing Wizard & Glass on the display shelf and just being so happy that the series was continuing.

I bought The Gunslinger and It at Half-Priced books when I was about 13 (clearly my parents had no idea what sort of things were inside those books) to take to a retreat that my dad's company had in Bandera, TX at a place with no TVs. It scared the hell out of me, but from the first page, the Gunslinger was so hypnotic and fascinating, I have loved that journey.

Have you guys read the graphic novels? Wouldn't mind a Battle of Jericho Hill episode if they were to do a season of Wizard & Glass and beyond!

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I have read the graphic novels and they're spectacular. Highly recommend. The Last God was another amazing graphic novel I read recently if you're looking for good ones

Ka is a wheel.

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Back in the pre-Internet days, I have a really vivid memory of walking into a bookstore and seeing Wizard & Glass on the display shelf and just being so happy that the series was continuing.

I bought The Gunslinger and It at Half-Priced books when I was about 13 (clearly my parents had no idea what sort of things were inside those books) to take to a retreat that my dad's company had in Bandera, TX at a place with no TVs. It scared the hell out of me, but from the first page, the Gunslinger was so hypnotic and fascinating, I have loved that journey.

Have you guys read the graphic novels? Wouldn't mind a Battle of Jericho Hill episode if they were to do a season of Wizard & Glass and beyond!

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I have read the graphic novels and they're spectacular. Highly recommend. The Last God was another amazing graphic novel I read recently if you're looking for good ones

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The graphic novels are how I finally got my brother to read the books. The siege at Gilead and the battle of jericho hill finally given some visuals was great. Everythig else as well.

📸 Mike Flanagan with Pedro Pascal recently! pic.twitter.com/xdBjBelQGk

— Mike Flanagan Source (@flanagansource) January 28, 2023

Would make a cool Roland but an unreal Man in Black.

UPDATES:

https://screenrant.com/dark-tower-adaptation-delay-mike-flanagan-stephen-king-explained/

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Screen Rant was in attendance at Flanagan's House of Usher panel at the New York Comic Con, where the director gave an update on the adaptation:

These are the questions that keep me up at night. The only way to do it is to just do the books. The thing about The Dark Tower that's so incredible is Stephen King builds an astonishing universe and it's huge. It's populated with such a richness of characters and scale and scope, eventually, but he starts that story with one person following another person in the barren desert. It's one of the greatest opening lines of all time. That's how you do it. You start with two people and a simple story. One is trying to catch the other. That's it. It's taking forever.

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https://screenrant.com/dark-tower-stephen-king-new-book/

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March 2024: On X (formerly Twitter), King now teases that he is working on new Dark Tower stories as he reveals that he is "back in Mid-World...and the Territories." King admits that he does not know what this will amount to, but he expresses his enthusiasm at returning to the universe of The Dark Tower. The tease also includes a shirt that reads, "All things serve the f***** Beam," which is a different quote from the series, and a reference to the Beams that hold up the Dark Tower.

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https://screenrant.com/dark-tower-show-stephen-king-mike-flanagan-amazon-update/

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July 2024: Speaking with The Wrap, Prime Video executive Vernon Sanders discusses the status of The Dark Tower adaptation:

So Mike is incredibly passionate about this and we're incredibly passionate about Intrepid. There are a few things in the hopper with Intrepid with us and we're trying to figure out right now how to prioritize. So I don't have anything to share specifically on "Dark Tower" other than we are in weekly conversations with him about this and a few other pieces that we're leaning into.

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https://screenrant.com/the-dark-tower-show-the-exorcist-movie-conflict-mike-flanagan-response/

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July 2024: In a recent interview on the Talking Scared podcast, Flanagan assures fans that he will be able to work on both The Exorcist and Dark Tower at the same time fairly comfortably.:

Oh, it's not in the way. They coexist very well. I think the trick with The Dark Tower is just it's still just takes an enormous amount of time to get going. But we're further along than the last time we spoke. It seems to be moving on its own momentum. There's so much logistical, boring, legal stuff that we have to kind of machete our way through to get that thing moving. But yeah, it has not at all stalled and none of the other work that's that's kind of emerged has in any way taken away from it.

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https://fictionhorizon.com/mike-flanagan-explains-his-slow-progress-on-stephen-kings-the-dark-tower-tv-show/

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Sep 2024: In a recent update from The Hollywood Reporter in September 2024, Flanagan sheds light on the challenges facing his adaptation.

That thing's launching an oil tanker. But we're working on it. It was stalled first by me moving from Netflix to Amazon and stalled again by the strikes. It's progressing, and we're further along than we've ever been on it. I do see feature components to some of the other stories, but the main storyline is [an] ongoing series.

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From King on 10/27/24 (before he deleted his twitter account)

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Back in the pre-Internet days, I have a really vivid memory of walking into a bookstore and seeing Wizard & Glass on the display shelf and just being so happy that the series was continuing.

I bought The Gunslinger and It at Half-Priced books when I was about 13 (clearly my parents had no idea what sort of things were inside those books) to take to a retreat that my dad's company had in Bandera, TX at a place with no TVs. It scared the hell out of me, but from the first page, the Gunslinger was so hypnotic and fascinating, I have loved that journey.

Have you guys read the graphic novels? Wouldn't mind a Battle of Jericho Hill episode if they were to do a season of Wizard & Glass and beyond!

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The man in black fled across the desert, the gunslinger followed

Best opening line in literature
#isaidwhatisaid

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It is a great start but WoT says hold my beer.

The Wheel of Time turns, and Ages come and pass, leaving memories that become legend. Legend fades to myth, and even myth is long forgotten when the Age that gave it birth comes again. In one Age, called the Third Age by some, an Age yet to come, an Age long past, a wind rose in the Mountains of Mist.

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TLDR opening line.

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"The building was on fire, and it wasn't my fault."

Still have hope this will happen

I'm on a reread of Wolves of the Calla right now and it's tough. The writing isn't bad but the plot is a slog and King made downright weird choices (even 20 years ago when it was new) that have NOT held up well. At this point I'm just skimming the filler and reading the good parts.

I haven't tried to reread this series in at least 15 years. At some point I previously concluded The Dark Tower's second half was a complete dud and have since forgotten how bad it was.

The movie from a few years ago was beyond terrible.

I say all of this because adapting a series that is compelling with all the given WTFs will be super difficult. And long drawn out multi season with 8-9 books worth of material will be extremely difficult is a major turn off these days.

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Back in the pre-Internet days, I have a really vivid memory of walking into a bookstore and seeing Wizard & Glass on the display shelf and just being so happy that the series was continuing.

I bought The Gunslinger and It at Half-Priced books when I was about 13 (clearly my parents had no idea what sort of things were inside those books) to take to a retreat that my dad's company had in Bandera, TX at a place with no TVs. It scared the hell out of me, but from the first page, the Gunslinger was so hypnotic and fascinating, I have loved that journey.

Have you guys read the graphic novels? Wouldn't mind a Battle of Jericho Hill episode if they were to do a season of Wizard & Glass and beyond!

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The man in black fled across the desert, the gunslinger followed

Best opening line in literature
#isaidwhatisaid

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It is a great start but WoT says hold my beer.

The Wheel of Time turns, and Ages come and pass, leaving memories that become legend. Legend fades to myth, and even myth is long forgotten when the Age that gave it birth comes again. In one Age, called the Third Age by some, an Age yet to come, an Age long past, a wind rose in the Mountains of Mist.

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TLDR opening line.

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"The building was on fire, and it wasn't my fault."

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"It was a pleasure to burn."

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I'm on a reread of Wolves of the Calla right now and it's tough. The writing isn't bad but the plot is a slog and King made downright weird choices (even 20 years ago when it was new) that have NOT held up well. At this point I'm just skimming the filler and reading the good parts.

I haven't tried to reread this series in at least 15 years. At some point I previously concluded The Dark Tower's second half was a complete dud and have since forgotten how bad it was.

The movie from a few years ago was beyond terrible.

I say all of this because adapting a series that is compelling with all the given WTFs will be super difficult. And long drawn out multi season with 8-9 books worth of material will be extremely difficult is a major turn off these days.

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Oh man, I loved Wolves of the Calla. I'm a sucker for all things Seven Samurai and The Magnificent Seven, though (even the remake). Song of Susannah took me a while to get through, though.

By the way, many of you constant readers probably know about this, but I just stumbled across the "Kingslinger" podcast. It's essentially a "book club" style podcast from 2020 where they go through the books, section by section, then discuss in episodic format.

One of the guys has never read the series, but the other is a super fan. One is using the audiobook and the other is reading. It's a ton of fun hearing them talk about both versions, dissect the books, and to hear the speculations of the guy that's never read them (or much Stephen King at all).

I've read and listened to The Dark Tower all the way through probably 4 or 5 times in my life, and these guys are giving me new things to think about. I'm halfway through them doing The Wastelands, and I can't wait to get to the next episode with Lud.

Anyway, worth your time if you enjoy the series. It's well done, and they've gone on to tackle a lot more King and the rest of the tower.

https://www.doofmedia.com/kingslingers/

Edit: Definitely the wrong emoji. I cry your pardon. Thankee, Sai.

Wow what an incredible find! Thank you so much for posting this!