Surprised we haven't had any discussion on this yet, dropped last week on Disney+ and it's a ton of fun with some great animation. It's a more personal story than a lot of their films but was really well done and targeted at more of a preteen/early teen audience which was interesting. Also cool to see them explore some other cultures, really enjoyed it overall.

terrible

Glad they had the period scene! Now my wife and I won't have to give that talk to my daughter!


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I didn't mind it. Had some good moments overall. Nothing I would have paid for in a theater and not something I will probably watch again but it was fine.

Really a good movie about acceptance and friendship and puberty. My kids are 10 and they loved it.

Nice Easter Egg for the Toronto Blue Jays near the end.

Care to elaborate?

Well as a 40 something year old I was definitely not the target audience but I indulged a viewing with my 3 and 6 year old daughters. Kind of an interesting premise but just didn't' grow on me over the course of 90 minutes. The main character reminded me of Annie "mint" from Robotech who was wildly annoying. The movie just hung on too much with overused Asian parent stereotypes for humor (it just went on and on and on...). The biggest measure is how my kids felt afterward having watched this....well....I haven't heard a peep out of them after seeing it. Contrary to Encanto, Coco, etc. which they talk about all the time. Overall this gets a big Meh out of this household and is a bargain bin animation a few notches below Luca, Soul and onward.

Fair enough, though you (or your kids) not being the target audience doesn't mean it's not good.

I thought the message of locking your child in a baren room when she is menstruating was a great message

The dad was the MVP. I think most men would have gone postal on those relatives and wife a long time before the plot of that movie. Even the daughter asked her mom to spend time with dad at one point to throw the mom off the plan. They made sure to show the dad have hope and then lose it when the mom wanted to be with the daughter.

fig96 said:

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Fair enough, though you (or your kids) not being the target audience doesn't mean it's not good.

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I think the fact that it is not good means it's not good. Kids should be the easy judge. They eat up all sorts of crappy quality screen time. They watch some kid playing a video game on YouTube for hours. I watched it with them, and I can echo the sentiment from above. It was meh.

I personally did not like it but mostly because I don't arbitrarily award it points because it touched on hot topics like a period and kind of sort of Asian culture. A different perspective does not require me to accept it - this isn't identity politics where points are scored because, well, because. It just wasn't a very good movie. Silly red panda concept told in a way that was barely interesting. Reinforced worshipping boy bands by little girls, and how that should be expected regardless of what your parents say. All done without much comedic effect.

Only thing I liked is that it stroked some sentimental chords with me with the incorporation of tamagotchi.

Orthodox approved

My kid liked it. My wife said it was alright.

schmendeler said:

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Orthodox approved

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tRaDiTiOnAl FaMiLy VaLuEs

Its not good. Arguably worst Pixar movie they've produced

To each their own I suppose. I thought it did a great job hitting on that late 90s/early 2000s feel (which would involve boy bands for a story centered on a 13 old girl) and the animation was outstanding with some really funny bits.

You need to go watch The Good Dinosaur.

42 year old me, not target audience, "this sucked".
13 year old daughter, probably target audience, "this sucked".

This was almost The Little Mermaid II: Return to the Sea, bad.

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Its not good. Arguably worst Pixar movie they've produced

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I don't know if it was the worst but me, the wife, a teen and preteen turned it off about halfway through and didn't feel like we should pick it back up the next day. I've never had that happen with a Pixar movie.

I have no issue with anything in particular about the movie other than it just wasn't entertaining or good.

It's terrible. It's a movie with a message that will only be well received by a tiny minority.

And that message was..?

Maybe the message was accept change instead of suppressing it otherwise it will become a bigger problem in the future. Hell if I know because the movie was pretty bad at conveying even that.

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And that message was..?

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And who was the tiny minority?

The movie is rated PG, so perhaps a 3 and 6 year old werent the intended audience for this. Not everything animated is meant to entertain a toddler

I remember this movie when it was called...

cajunaggie08 said:

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The movie is rated PG, so perhaps a 3 and 6 year old werent the intended audience for this. Not everything animated is meant to entertain a toddler

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I guess frozen, encanto, up, and Coco aren't intended for a 3 and 6 year old because they're all PG.

Big thumbs down for me. Very meh.

At the risk of getting labeled misogynist or whatever, the period scene really bothered me. This is an animated movie and that caught me off guard. My 7 year old daughters didn't understand and were completely lost. Being a single dad I know one day I'll have to clumsily explain all that, but I definitely thought I could do it in a more thoughtful way than in the middle of a cartoon.

It seemed completely unnecessary and a real reach at "normalizing" talking to kids early about sex/periods. Seemed pretty unfair to force that on parents IMO.

Outside of that, the main character seemed disrespectful and the whole message seemed slanted towards accepting that it's okay to lie and be an ass to your parents.

It did remind me of Teen Wolf in some ways!

The Dirty Sock said:

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cajunaggie08 said:

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The movie is rated PG, so perhaps a 3 and 6 year old werent the intended audience for this. Not everything animated is meant to entertain a toddler

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I guess frozen, encanto, up, and Coco aren't intended for a 3 and 6 year old because they're all PG.

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PG literally means "Parental Guidance Suggested" meaning that it has topic/images/dialog which may not be appropriate for all audiences.

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A PG rated film, in the United States, means parental guidance suggested for children. Parents should decide if the children should see the movie or recommend parental guidance. Films with this rating can have some violence, mild language, and brief nudity.

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So no, encanto, up and coco were not intended for 3yr olds.

This movie wasnt aimed at 3-6 yr olds any more than "are you there God, It's Me Margret" was aimed at 3-6 year olds.

I have young kids. We watch a lot of movies. I try to pre-screen PG movies or at least read a couple reviews for them prior to letting the kids watch them. I know not everyone does this, but if you don't then it's kind of hard to feel much sympathy for you and your kids having to have awkward conversations about the major themes of the movie you let them watch. My little girls want to watch Turning Red - they love pandas and cartoons. After reading about it, we'll probably hold off a few years because there's no need to broach the subject of puberty and menstruation with them yet.

Also, PG doesn't mean it's not appropriate content for young children. It means that parents should be aware that their guidance will probably be needed to make the decision for their children and there's going to be some stuff that you'll have to explain to them.

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PG: Parental Guidance Suggested, Some Material May Not Be Suitable for Children. The film should be investigated further by parents. There may be some content such as language, violence or brief nudity, but they aren't so intense that more than guidance is suggested. Remember, the content will vary with each movie, so check the specific movie rating for the film you are researching.

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https://www.canr.msu.edu/news/what_do_movie_ratings_mean

PG these days is what R used to be back in the day. Not quite, but almost.

Can I get a year for that that "back in the day"?

Jaws, poltergeist, sixteen candles, airplane, watership down, grease, who framed Roger rabbit, all rated PG.

Duncan Idaho said:

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Can I get a year for that that "back in the day"?

Jaws, poltergeist, sixteen candles, airplane, watership down, grease, who framed Roger rabbit, all rated PG.

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Add to that multiple PG movies in the 80s had nudity. Clash of the Titans had multiple shots of full on tits.

Red Five said:

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Clash of the Titans had multiple shots of full on tits.

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brb

They added PG-13 in 1984 and NC-17 in 1990 but also added all the descriptive language to ratings then.

https://www.filmratings.com/History

Duncan Idaho said:

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Can I get a year for that that "back in the day"?

Jaws, poltergeist, sixteen candles, airplane, watership down, grease, who framed Roger rabbit, all rated PG.

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Tongue in cheek.

I guess I don't know why the period scene (which seems be pretty brief and very vague to me) couldn't just be explained as "that's something for older girls" and let go? I suppose it depends on the specific kid, but I can't imagine them dwelling on it that much.

As far as the main character being disrespectful/rebelling, welcome to Tangled/Onward/Moana/Inside Out/Mulan/Luca/Little Mermaid/almost every animated film ever. In the end the mother and daughter end up closer than they were.

For me it felt like a very personal story with a lot of widely relatable themes.