3 of top 50 players of all-time on one team, in their prime, including the best to ever play the game. If ever a team could go 82-0 it would be that one. If true Charlie was an idiot.Andyzipp said:
According to Olajuwon, the real life scenario was that Portland had offered Clyde Drexler and the number 2 pick for Ralph Sampson before the draft.
Meaning the Rockets would have had Drexler, and drafted Olajuwon and Jordan 1, 2. But Charlie Thomas loved Sampson and was convinced that putting him together with Olajuwon would get him a championship.
Sampson's potential back then was like Magic or LeBron; a guy doing finesse things at an unheard of size; in his case a 7 foot 4 center who could pass and dribble. Plus he won NCAA Player of the year 3 times in a row, which no one else has ever done. Averaged 21 and 11 as a rookie on an absolutely terrible team.Prosperdick said:3 of top 50 players of all-time on one team, in their prime, including the best to ever play the game. If ever a team could go 82-0 it would be that one. If true Charlie was an idiot.Andyzipp said:
According to Olajuwon, the real life scenario was that Portland had offered Clyde Drexler and the number 2 pick for Ralph Sampson before the draft.
Meaning the Rockets would have had Drexler, and drafted Olajuwon and Jordan 1, 2. But Charlie Thomas loved Sampson and was convinced that putting him together with Olajuwon would get him a championship.
helloimustbegoing said:
Will watch it tonight. Magic is my #2 favorite player of all time so definitely hyped to see him come to life again. The Lakers were 47-35 the year before he got there and started the 79-80 season 25-13, then won 35 of their final 42 games.
His first game as a 20-year-old pro: 26 points, 8 rebounds ,4 assists, 4 blocks, 1 steal.
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Losing the coin flip got the Bulls Dave Greenwood from UCLA who played 12 years and averaged 10 points a game.
i wonder if will ferrell is watching this and thinking "yeah, it may have been handled poorly, but there's no doubt that i was wrong for this part and Reilly is nailing it"?TCTTS said:
Finally had a chance to catch up on both episodes, and I hate to say it, but I'm not a huge fan so far. Or, rather, I love any scene with Reilly/Buss and his plight, or even his daughter's plight, but everything else is so over-the-top or written like a soap opera that I just don't care. Though I like the actor, the Magic in Michigan stuff is pretty bad, and I can't wait 'til all the characters are together and all the pieces are in place so we can really get moving and it doesn't feel like we're watching two or three separate shows.
And this is coming from someone who loves the trailers, loves the NBA, loves LA, and loves Adam McKay's better efforts. I don't even mind the breaking of the fourth wall or the film grain look (though the VHS-looking cutaways and insert shots are so distracting). Two episodes in, it's just not a well-written series, one that not only looks like a show from the late '70s/early '80s, but has the weird vibe/pacing of one as well. There's just an empty awkwardness to some of the scenes, almost like they're trying to make it as bad as the shows back then.
All that said, I'm having fun with it for the most part, and when it's at its best, I love the overall vibe. Again, Reilly as Buss is fantastic, and I think once the ensemble's all together, it really has the chance to sing.
No doubt, I was thinking the same thing. Ferrell would have been ok, but Rielly is hitting it out of the park. Reilly is so good at breaking the fourth wall and then jumping back into the scene, I just don't see Ferrell being able to do that.Quote:
i wonder if will ferrell is watching this and thinking "yeah, it may have been handled poorly, but there's no doubt that i was wrong for this part and Reilly is nailing it"?
Watching The Shrink Next Door will confirm your opinion about Ferrell being limited as a 'real' actor. No way he'd have the charisma to play the Dr. Buss character as well as John C.TexjbA&M said:No doubt, I was thinking the same thing. Ferrell would have been ok, but Rielly is hitting it out of the park. Reilly is so good at breaking the fourth wall and then jumping back into the scene, I just don't see Ferrell being able to do that.Quote:
i wonder if will ferrell is watching this and thinking "yeah, it may have been handled poorly, but there's no doubt that i was wrong for this part and Reilly is nailing it"?
From nobody to dynasty: #WinningTime’s Adrien Brody explains what it was like playing Pat Riley before he became THE Pat Riley.@katiebakes: https://t.co/NEGMkhZkI4
— The Ringer (@ringer) March 21, 2022
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The meeting with Jack Kent Cooke and Jerry Buss had gone well. Vic Weiss was close to a deal that would bring University of Nevada, Las Vegas, basketball coach Jerry Tarkanian to Los Angeles to lead the Lakers, the team Cooke was selling to Buss.
Briefcase in hand, the stocky but energetic Weiss, a 51-year-old sports promoter, sometime agent and businessman, left the meeting room at a Beverly Hills hotel, hopped into his Rolls-Royce and headed over the hill to his house in Encino.
But Weiss never made it home. Three days later, on June 17, 1979, his red-and-white Rolls-Royce was spotted in the garage of a North Hollywood hotel.
Police opened the trunk and there was the body of Victor J. Weiss, hands tied behind his back. He had been killed with two gunshots to the head.
Completely unrecognizable and not in a ton of makeup like the Penguin/Batman kind of way. He did a great job.LostAg said:
Never thought this guy would end up playing Jerry Tarkanian
Holy cow. I just realized that Claire Rothman in Winning Time is Karen from Field of Dreams. pic.twitter.com/bfrbOI7BBb
— Ryan McGee (@ESPNMcGee) March 22, 2022
Well, McGee better not watch anything else with Gaby or he'll find out pretty quickly that Karen is not a fan of anything Brazilian.TCTTS said:Holy cow. I just realized that Claire Rothman in Winning Time is Karen from Field of Dreams. pic.twitter.com/bfrbOI7BBb
— Ryan McGee (@ESPNMcGee) March 22, 2022
TCTTS said:Holy cow. I just realized that Claire Rothman in Winning Time is Karen from Field of Dreams. pic.twitter.com/bfrbOI7BBb
— Ryan McGee (@ESPNMcGee) March 22, 2022
Prosperdick said:Agreed on Ferrell playing Buss...I realize now why they had to make the change. The show simply wouldn't work with him in that role. I like Reilly though and his take on Buss.InternetFan02 said:
Very entertaining premier…everything you would expect from Adam McKay
Jerry west/Jason Clarke steals the show…my favorite character
lol at the Donald sterling cameo
Kareem was great - "**** off, kid"
Magic actor was great and there's some real potential here
John c Reilly is playing himself…distracting…but it would have been much worse for will Ferrell to play that role
It's amazing they found an actor who had Magic's smile and charisma...talk about good fortune. One quibble though is he's only 6-3 and the camera tricks they're using to make him look 6 inches taller is a bit distracting. The height differential between him and Kareem still works at least. I know it's a nit pick but something that bugged me a little.
Speaking of camera tricks, I loved the different use of camera lenses they used to get that 70's grainy look and then every once in a while they would slip in some hand held shots that look like they used home movie cameras from that era. It really puts you into that time period and back to Ferrell I think he would just pull you out of it (it would devolve into a parody of itself, which I'm sure McKay didn't want).
Anyway, I really enjoyed the first episode and can't wait to watch it all unfold.
Add in (d) resembles the person they are portraying.DTP02 said:Prosperdick said:Agreed on Ferrell playing Buss...I realize now why they had to make the change. The show simply wouldn't work with him in that role. I like Reilly though and his take on Buss.InternetFan02 said:
Very entertaining premier…everything you would expect from Adam McKay
Jerry west/Jason Clarke steals the show…my favorite character
lol at the Donald sterling cameo
Kareem was great - "**** off, kid"
Magic actor was great and there's some real potential here
John c Reilly is playing himself…distracting…but it would have been much worse for will Ferrell to play that role
It's amazing they found an actor who had Magic's smile and charisma...talk about good fortune. One quibble though is he's only 6-3 and the camera tricks they're using to make him look 6 inches taller is a bit distracting. The height differential between him and Kareem still works at least. I know it's a nit pick but something that bugged me a little.
Speaking of camera tricks, I loved the different use of camera lenses they used to get that 70's grainy look and then every once in a while they would slip in some hand held shots that look like they used home movie cameras from that era. It really puts you into that time period and back to Ferrell I think he would just pull you out of it (it would devolve into a parody of itself, which I'm sure McKay didn't want).
Anyway, I really enjoyed the first episode and can't wait to watch it all unfold.
Can't be easy to try to cast the part for life-size pro basketball players. Not a lot of overlap in the Venn diagram of (a) professional actors, (b) black, (c) freakishly tall. That they were even able to find enough black actors who were that much taller than average is a minor miracle.
