I know no one really cares about my opinion, but I think the Oscars jumped the shark a long time ago.

And I enjoy good movies ...

I think the thing I'm most upset about last night is Honeyland not winning best Documentary. What a piece of art!

Also, sucks that Pain and Glory had to come out the same year as Parasite because that was a masterpiece by Almodovar. Truly loved it!

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Ok, but for there to be a bias you'd have to think more of those nominations should have won. So which nominations exactly do you think should have won.

Off the top of my head Adam Driver for Best Actor was the only one that really might have overlooked. All the others lost to overwhelming favorites and consensus more deserving nominees.

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Overwhelming favorites by who's standards? Yours? The pre-award shows? Was Parasite an overwhelming favorite? The Academy has proven time and time again to choose their winner outside of "popular" opinion.
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Ok, but for there to be a bias you'd have to think more of those nominations should have won. So which nominations exactly do you think should have won.

Off the top of my head Adam Driver for Best Actor was the only one that really might have overlooked. All the others lost to overwhelming favorites and consensus more deserving nominees.

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"Bright" being snubbed years ago told me everything I needed to know about the NetFlix bias. It's real.

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Jim01 said:

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Ok, but for there to be a bias you'd have to think more of those nominations should have won. So which nominations exactly do you think should have won.

Off the top of my head Adam Driver for Best Actor was the only one that really might have overlooked. All the others lost to overwhelming favorites and consensus more deserving nominees.

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"Bright" being snubbed years ago told me everything I needed to know about the NetFlix bias. It's real.

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Bright's not even a top 20 best Netflix movie. Dumb comment

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Jim01 said:

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Ok, but for there to be a bias you'd have to think more of those nominations should have won. So which nominations exactly do you think should have won.

Off the top of my head Adam Driver for Best Actor was the only one that really might have overlooked. All the others lost to overwhelming favorites and consensus more deserving nominees.

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"Bright" being snubbed years ago told me everything I needed to know about the NetFlix bias. It's real.

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Bright? lol the movie with Will Smith about orcs and fairies? I agree that there's been Netflix push back in hollywood but Bright was objectively mediocre to bad (AND I LOVE FANTASY FILMS).

Edit: Guess I missed the sarcasm.

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evan_aggie said:

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Jim01 said:

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Ok, but for there to be a bias you'd have to think more of those nominations should have won. So which nominations exactly do you think should have won.

Off the top of my head Adam Driver for Best Actor was the only one that really might have overlooked. All the others lost to overwhelming favorites and consensus more deserving nominees.

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"Bright" being snubbed years ago told me everything I needed to know about the NetFlix bias. It's real.

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Bright's not even a top 20 best Netflix movie. Dumb comment

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By any measure. None of the NetFlix movies had really won much in ANY award show, nor were at the top of ANY polls.

Parasite was considered one of the 2-3 favorites for Best Picture along with 1917 and OUATIH.

Best Director was a surprise but the favorite was Mendes.

So to say the academy is bias is ridiculous. If you believe they are bias then ALL the awards and critics are bias as well. Is that your argument?

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I think the thing I'm most upset about last night is Honeyland not winning best Documentary. What a piece of art!

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The Cave was my favorite documentary of the year. Just amazing dedication by those doctors & staff. The storytelling was tremendous.
American Factory was also excellent & thought-provoking. I'm not too upset with it winning.

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SkiMo said:

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I think the thing I'm most upset about last night is Honeyland not winning best Documentary. What a piece of art!

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The Cave was my favorite documentary of the year. Just amazing dedication by those doctors & staff. The storytelling was tremendous.
American Factory was also excellent & thought-provoking. I'm not too upset with it winning.

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I get it. I just feel like there have been a surplus of Syrian docs the last few years and Honeyland was super unique and opened my eyes to a relatively unknown part of the world...and made me so thankful for the things I have. It was so well made I felt like I was actually watching a movie. Beautiful cinematography!

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By any measure. None of the NetFlix movies had really won much in ANY award show, nor were at the top of ANY polls.

Parasite was considered one of the 2-3 favorites for Best Picture along with 1917 and OUATIH.

Best Director was a surprise but the favorite was Mendes.

So to say the academy is bias is ridiculous. If you believe they are bias then ALL the awards and critics are bias as well. Is that your argument?

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Weird...all I see from reaction is "Parasite surprises at oscars". Again...Spielberg already confirmed streamed movies are looked down on. If he has that opinion, there are plenty others that believe it as well. So Netflix and Amazon feel they now have to show their movies in actually movie theaters for a time to be official Oscar candidates? The fact they have to go to those measures shows there is bias.

My favorite part of the show was when the audience gave Scorsese an unexpected standing ovation, and how taken aback he was by it. Great moment.

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Jim01 said:

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By any measure. None of the NetFlix movies had really won much in ANY award show, nor were at the top of ANY polls.

Parasite was considered one of the 2-3 favorites for Best Picture along with 1917 and OUATIH.

Best Director was a surprise but the favorite was Mendes.

So to say the academy is bias is ridiculous. If you believe they are bias then ALL the awards and critics are bias as well. Is that your argument?

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Weird...all I see from reaction is "Parasite surprises at oscars". Again...Spielberg already confirmed streamed movies are looked down on. If he has that opinion, there are plenty others that believe it as well. So Netflix and Amazon feel they now have to show their movies in actually movie theaters for a time to be official Oscar candidates? The fact they have to go to those measures shows there is bias.

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None of the Netflix movies were considered to be overwhelming favorites in any category, except for Laura Dern. She ended up winning. Adam Driver had an outside chance too. Parasite winning was a little bit of a surprise, but it was always a dark horse. These are from critic opinions, betting sites, and my own subjective opinion. Netflix just didn't really have the goods this year compared to OUATIH, 1917, Parasite, and Jojo Rabbit. I do agree that Roma got snubbed last year. It was amazing.

Curious if these streaming services like Disney +, Netflix, Amazon, Hulu, Apple +, etc start cranking out even better movies that can compete, if they start putting them into their own category...or keep them with the rest of the candidates.

Every year I wish we could see the voting breakdown for Best Picture.

I know it'll never happen, but it would be pretty interesting to see all the past years broken down by vote. I'd like to know how close Roma came to winning, etc.

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Curious if these streaming services like Disney +, Netflix, Amazon, Hulu, Apple +, etc start cranking out even better movies that can compete, if they start putting them into their own category...or keep them with the rest of the candidates.

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Seeing how much blowback they got for announcing a "Best Popular Film" or whatever it was called, I doubt they would ever attempt this.

People would just see it as a consolation prize for the real Best Picture.

People always say Roma was snubbed but it won 3 Oscars (Director, Cinematography, and International film) and was nominated for 7 others (including Best Picture).

Like, it was definitely better than Green Book but idk if it was hands down better than Black KKKLansman. If any other movie had won Best Picture, I feel like no one would say it was "snubbed."

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Jim01 said:

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By any measure. None of the NetFlix movies had really won much in ANY award show, nor were at the top of ANY polls.

Parasite was considered one of the 2-3 favorites for Best Picture along with 1917 and OUATIH.

Best Director was a surprise but the favorite was Mendes.

So to say the academy is bias is ridiculous. If you believe they are bias then ALL the awards and critics are bias as well. Is that your argument?

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Weird...all I see from reaction is "Parasite surprises at oscars". Again...Spielberg already confirmed streamed movies are looked down on. If he has that opinion, there are plenty others that believe it as well. So Netflix and Amazon feel they now have to show their movies in actually movie theaters for a time to be official Oscar candidates? The fact they have to go to those measures shows there is bias.

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No, they actually do have to show their films in theaters for them to be Oscar candidates. A theatrical run has been a requirement for quite a long time.

To be honest, it was easier for me to see Marriage Story than it was to see Parasite. Not sure the whole theater thing means anything when a limited run international movie wins.

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Silvertaps said:

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Jim01 said:

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By any measure. None of the NetFlix movies had really won much in ANY award show, nor were at the top of ANY polls.

Parasite was considered one of the 2-3 favorites for Best Picture along with 1917 and OUATIH.

Best Director was a surprise but the favorite was Mendes.

So to say the academy is bias is ridiculous. If you believe they are bias then ALL the awards and critics are bias as well. Is that your argument?

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Weird...all I see from reaction is "Parasite surprises at oscars". Again...Spielberg already confirmed streamed movies are looked down on. If he has that opinion, there are plenty others that believe it as well. So Netflix and Amazon feel they now have to show their movies in actually movie theaters for a time to be official Oscar candidates? The fact they have to go to those measures shows there is bias.

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No, they actually do have to show their films in theaters for them to be Oscar candidates. A theatrical run has been a requirement for quite a long time.

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A rule made before these streaming services became relevant I assume? Also...is that rule exclusive to the Academy, or does the same go for the Golden Globes?

IMO... A movie is a movie...no matter how it's shown. Would the Academy be forced to waive this rule in the future the more Oscar worthy movies streaming services make?

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People always say Roma was snubbed but it won 3 Oscars (Director, Cinematography, and International film) and was nominated for 7 others (including Best Picture).

Like, it was definitely better than Green Book but idk if it was hands down better than Black KKKLansman. If any other movie had won Best Picture, I feel like no one would say it was "snubbed."

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Good point. But definitely better than Black Kkklansman, lol

I bet Bong is still drinking..

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Silvertaps said:

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Jim01 said:

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By any measure. None of the NetFlix movies had really won much in ANY award show, nor were at the top of ANY polls.

Parasite was considered one of the 2-3 favorites for Best Picture along with 1917 and OUATIH.

Best Director was a surprise but the favorite was Mendes.

So to say the academy is bias is ridiculous. If you believe they are bias then ALL the awards and critics are bias as well. Is that your argument?

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Weird...all I see from reaction is "Parasite surprises at oscars". Again...Spielberg already confirmed streamed movies are looked down on. If he has that opinion, there are plenty others that believe it as well. So Netflix and Amazon feel they now have to show their movies in actually movie theaters for a time to be official Oscar candidates? The fact they have to go to those measures shows there is bias.

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No, they actually do have to show their films in theaters for them to be Oscar candidates. A theatrical run has been a requirement for quite a long time.

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A rule made before these streaming services became relevant I assume? Also...is that rule exclusive to the Academy, or does the same go for the Golden Globes?

IMO... A movie is a movie...no matter how it's shown. Would the Academy be forced to waive this rule in the future the more Oscar worthy movies streaming services make?

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Not sure exactly when it was instituted but it's been a requirement as long I can remember. They actually resisted changes to make the requirement a longer run this year (i.e. make it harder for streaming films). Some individuals may be biased against streaming films for whatever reason, but it's not some grand conspiracy.

No idea what the Golden Globe rules are.

SIAP, but I was a bit disappointed Robert Pattinson or Willem Defoe didn't get a nom for The Lighthouse. That was a great picture.

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All eligible motion pictures, unless otherwise noted (see Paragraph 9, below), must be:
a. feature length (defined as over 40 minutes),
b. publicly exhibited by means of 35mm or 70mm film, or in a 24- or 48-frame progressive scan
Digital Cinema format with a minimum projector resolution of 2048 by 1080 pixels, source image
format conforming to ST 428-1:2006 D-Cinema Distribution Master Image Characteristics;
image compression (if used) conforming to ISO/IEC 15444-1 (JPEG 2000); and image and sound
files packaged as Digital Cinema Packages (DCPs) in either "Interop" or "SMPTE DCP" formats.
SMPTE DCP refers to SMPTE ST 429-2 and related specifications. (Blu-ray format does not
meet Digital Cinema requirements.)
The audio in a Digital Cinema Package (DCP) is typically 5.1 or 7.1 channels of discrete audio.
The minimum for a non-mono configuration of the audio shall be three channels as Left, Center,
Right (a Left/Right configuration is not acceptable in a theatrical environment).
The audio data shall be formatted in conformance with ST 428-2:2006 D-Cinema Distribution
Master Audio Characteristics and ST 428-3:2006 D-Cinema Distribution Master Audio
Channel Mapping and Channel Labeling,
c. for paid admission in a commercial motion picture theater in Los Angeles County,
d. for a theatrical qualifying run of at least seven consecutive days, during which period screenings
must occur at least three times daily, with at least one screening beginning between 6 p.m. and
10 p.m. daily,
e. advertised and exploited during their Los Angeles County theatrical qualifying run in a manner
normal and customary to theatrical feature distribution practices, and
f. released within the Awards year deadlines specified in Rule Three.
3. Films that, in any version, receive their first public exhibition or distribution in any manner other than
as a theatrical motion picture release will not be eligible for Academy Awards in any category.
Nontheatrical public exhibition or distribution includes but is not limited to:
Broadcast and cable television
PPV/VOD
DVD distribution
Inflight airline distribution
Internet transmission
Motion pictures released in such nontheatrical media on or after the first day of their Los Angeles
County theatrical qualifying run remain eligible. Also, ten minutes or ten percent of the running
time of a film, whichever is shorter, may be shown in a nontheatrical medium prior to the film's
qualifying run.

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https://www.oscars.org/oscars/rules-eligibility

I was kind of upset with Toy Story 4 winning best animated film. Don't think it is even in the same realm as Toy Story or Toy Story 3, and it is sad to see it as an Oscar winner while much better films (Nightmare Before Christmas, Coraline, Lego Movie, Moana, Your Name., Fantastic Mr. Fox, etc.) didn't win and didn't even get a nom in some cases. It's hard to buy Pixar's pitch of we make movies for families when they are pumping out several sequels for $$$ now.

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I was kind of upset with Toy Story 4 winning best animated film. Don't think it is even in the same realm as Toy Story or Toy Story 3, and it is sad to see it as an Oscar winner while much better films (Nightmare Before Christmas, Coraline, Lego Movie, Moana, Your Name., Fantastic Mr. Fox, etc.) didn't win and didn't even get a nom in some cases. It's hard to buy Pixar's pitch of we make movies for families when they are pumping out several sequels for $$$ now.

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I would've greatly preferred Klaus or Missing Link (haven't seen I Lost My Body yet), but agreed that the sequels winning is a bit tiring.

That being said, we do have a fair amount of original Disney and Pixar content coming soon (Onward, Soul, Raya and the Last Dragon) so that's promising.

Saw Hair Love this morning. Tear jerker for sure

did i miss it or did they leave luke perry out of the In Memoriam montage?

Heard on the radio this morning he was not included

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did i miss it or did they leave luke perry out of the In Memoriam montage?

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Yeah he wasn't in it. Either was Cameron Boyce who was a huge Disney actor that died at 20.

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Heard on the radio this morning he was not included

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Neither was Tim Conway, although most of his success was in television

The Monty Python Director/Actor Terry Jones wasn't included, but he died just a few weeks ago. Not sure where the cutoff date is to rollover into next year.

Update:

It's 9:45am in Hollywood and Bong Joon-Ho is still drinking.