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Why remake this? The original can't be topped

Conan without Arnold.

Scarface without Pacino.


Unless it's something really special, and I think the chances for that are pretty slim, it's just not going to work.

It can easily be topped. The "original" (already a remake) is massively overrated and a mediocre movie at best. It's iconic, though.

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Variety reports that he's attached to star - essentially as the Tony Montana of the film, though it will be a modern-day reimagining of Brian De Palma's 1983 film, focusing on a Mexican immigrant instead of a Cuban one and taking place in LA rather than Miami.

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Ok....maybe

captkirk said:

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Why remake this? The original can't be topped

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Since when is this a concern in Hollywood?

Brian Earl Spilner said:

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It can easily be topped.

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Like The Magnificent Seven
Ghostbusters
Point Break
Ben-Hur
The Thing
Karate Kid
Annie
Poltergeist


Maybe it can easily be topped

But it's not going to be.

Brian Earl Spilner said:

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It can easily be topped. The "original" (already a remake) is massively overrated and a mediocre movie at best. It's iconic, though.

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Definitely a movie I don't find nearly as good as I did as a teen/college age.

Chainsaw scene is still legit disturbing.

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The Thing

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The Thing (1982) was a remake of The Thing From Another World (1951). The Thing (2011) was a prequel to The Thing (1982).

So which one are you lumping into this discussion?

who is diego luna?

Uncle Gunnysack said:

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who is diego luna?

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Cassian from Rogue One

Cinco Ranch Aggie said:

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The Thing

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The Thing (1982) was a remake of The Thing From Another World (1951). The Thing (2011) was a prequel to The Thing (1982).

So which one are you lumping into this discussion?

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2011--it was such a disappointment I forgot it was a prequel.

But the "I always tell the truth, even when I lie." Will never be topped.

Hollywood taking a giant deuce over a film classic in a shameless money grab? That's odd...

Scarface is not a very good movie.

Like trying to remake revenge of the nerds

Luis would be in prison if they 'remade it

Bruce Almighty said:

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Scarface is not a very good movie.

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I agree.

Cinco Ranch Aggie said:

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The Thing

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The Thing (1982) was a remake of The Thing From Another World (1951). The Thing (2011) was a prequel to The Thing (1982).

So which one are you lumping into this discussion?

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Wait...it was? I watched 2011 last year and either didn't realize that or it was so unforgettable...I have forgotten that.

I watch 1982 every year and it's awesome every time I watch it.

The Thing Special Edition is in my collection. It has the commentary which is sweet.

VanZandt92 said:

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The Thing Special Edition is in my collection. It has the commentary which is sweet.

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I didn't know this existed. Does it have extra scenes because original has some plot holes that I always overlook?

How much of Scareface's popularity is because of MTV Cribs? I felt everyone in r&b, hip hop or a black actor gave a shout out to that movie. They would show off their DVD or movie poster.

AGinHI said:

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Brian Earl Spilner said:

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It can easily be topped.

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Like The Magnificent Seven
Ghostbusters
Point Break
Ben-Hur
The Thing
Karate Kid
Annie
Poltergeist


Maybe it can easily be topped

But it's not going to be.

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Scarface itself is a remake.
The Magnificent Seven is a remake of Seven Samurai
Ben-Hur was a remake of a silent film.
Annie is a film version of a Broadway musical.
The Thing was already discussed.

captkirk said:

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Why remake this? The original can't be topped

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Topped? No. The Pacino version is over-the-top ridiculous.

Better? Easily, as the Pacino version is a horrible movie with a cult and hip-hop following.

YouBet said:

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Cinco Ranch Aggie said:

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The Thing

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The Thing (1982) was a remake of The Thing From Another World (1951). The Thing (2011) was a prequel to The Thing (1982).

So which one are you lumping into this discussion?

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Wait...it was? I watched 2011 last year and either didn't realize that or it was so unforgettable...I have forgotten that.

I watch 1982 every year and it's awesome every time I watch it.

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I actually enjoyed the 2011 movie for what it was, a telling of the story of that Norwegian base that Kurt Russell finds in the 1982 movie. I'm just a sucker for monster movies. Still, I know what you mean about being forgettable (the word I think you actually meant to use) ... it didn't make much of an impression for audiences. I don't recall anyone saying it was awful, nor do I remember anyone singing its praises. I guess kinda meh.

Would be awesome if they somehow got Cuaron to direct this. A mini Y Tu Mama Tambien reunion.

Though I don't really see an A-list director taking this one.

GiveEmHellBill said:

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AGinHI said:

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Brian Earl Spilner said:

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It can easily be topped.

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Like The Magnificent Seven
Ghostbusters
Point Break
Ben-Hur
The Thing
Karate Kid
Annie
Poltergeist


Maybe it can easily be topped

But it's not going to be.

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Scarface itself is a remake.
The Magnificent Seven is a remake of Seven Samurai
Ben-Hur was a remake of a silent film.
Annie is a film version of a Broadway musical.
The Thing was already discussed.

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I was born in the early 70's, I grew up with all those movies (my own interests led me to the older ones like The Magnificent Seven, Ben-Hur, Spartacus, The Vikings, John Wayne westerns, etc.). The movies I listed are the standard.

The Magnificent Seven--Yul Brynner, Steve McQueen--that's the one we think of. The only people who say Seven Samurai are those pretentious elitists that think they're safeguarding some critical information no one else is aware of, "You know it's a remake don't you?"

Ben-Hur--Charlton Heston

The Thing--John Carpenter. I don't remember a damn thing about the prequel and like YouBet, I catch the 1982 version most every year.

Scarface--Al Pacino. I guess it's fashionable to hate on Scarface now after newer generations have maintained, and maybe even elevated, its cult status. Can't like anything that everyone else likes. Gotta stand out like you're some movie connoisseur. Scarface in the 80's--fricken' awesome!

Your retrospective "Not a very good movie" analysis--TTTTHPBT!

Annie--who watches musicals?

This idea that because these movies originated from earlier ones and can easily be topped is nonsense. It suggests that the industry and audiences haven't changed. Current audiences are so attention-deficit they require constant, over-the-top, action at the expense of story. Excessive CGI . It seems visuals trump story altogether. Where is the evidence that an older movie will easily be topped? More often than not they fail at capturing the essence of what made the previous so memorable.

However, off the top of my head--Ocean's Eleven--5 stars, 2 enthusiastic thumbs up; Dredd--so much better than Stallone's; Freaky Friday with Jamie Lee Curtis also a good one. Charlie and the Chocolate Factory--it was alright--Gene Wilder is still the standard. I liked Spielberg's War of the Worlds, I know a lot of people hate on that. I did not watch the Evil Dead remake--just didn't catch my interest. What else?

Where are these remakes that bested their classic predecessors?


Edit: to add because we watched it on TV last night--the new Karate Kid. I liked it, but Jackie Chan is no Mr. Miyagi. And, it's just not as memorable. You don't see kids doing that snake charming move thing Jaden Smith does in the final match like kids were replicating the crane from the original.

Bruce Almighty said:

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Scarface is not a very good movie.

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Counterpoint: Scarface is a great movie.

Brian Earl Spilner said:

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It can easily be topped. The "original" (already a remake) is massively overrated and a mediocre movie at best. It's iconic, though.

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overrated? Sure, but that is because people put it with the GOATs. Calling it mediocre at best is selling it short.

Best movie this year..... not a Scaface remake but it had a lot of scarface in it.

I like Scarface, but it hasn't aged well. I don't know really how to phrase it, but there are a handful of "good" movies that feel really dated based on how they look on screen. Scarface is one.

Anyway, I'd take Carlito's Way over Scarface 99 times out of 100.

Yes, I meant forgettable. I may have to check it out again. I would have immediately realized it was a prequel considering how many times I've seen JC's version. Maybe I didn't really see it....

If it doesn't have this quote in it, I'm not seein it...

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Then what? You're 50. You got a bag for a belly. You got tits, you need a bra. They got hair on them.

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Great. A new Scarface that will only serve to teach Mexican illegal teens that drug dealing is cool.

As for the original movie, everything was great except for Gina's pube hair.

Other than providing a name for one of the GOAT MCs, that movie really is trash.