Game of Thrones - Season 7

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Discussions of this sort on a Tuesday and I am like...


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EagleFordEarl said:

The poison is hemorrhagic, I'd say she's got less than 21 days

So according to this thread...somewhere between 2-10 episodes?
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Or potentially one **** pan Sam montage
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FightinTexasAg15 said:

Can we have Dickon fight Greyworm or Theon just for ironys sake?
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I think Dorne is done. They don't need to show the girl die and her mom watch. The impact and terror and torture of the death was perfect in Cersei's explanation of it. Actually showing it would lessen that.
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BrownCoat said:

I think you all have written off Dorne too quickly.

I still think Tyene escapes, yes I know that she was poisoned but they spent a lot of time last season explaining how they all built up a certain level of immunity to poisons, and even when Cersei was explaining her revenge plot to Ellaria they made note that the time it would take to kill would depend on the victims own level of immunity.

Now I predict that after the Lannisters get routed Bronn some how saves her and gives her the antidote. She saved him once and he owes her. Plus if he shows up at camp Targaryen with her he will have bought his way back to the winning side and he gets to hang out with his buddy again.


Actress that plays Ellaria did an interview stating she wouldnt be in anymore scenes and her character is dead.
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HtownAg92 said:

I think Dorne is done. They don't need to show the girl die and her mom watch. The impact and terror and torture of the death was perfect in Cersei's explanation of it. Actually showing it would lessen that.
Agree. There are already enough plot points to wrap up in the remaining 10 episodes, and Dany's army has taken enough hit on the "local" support that it doesn't really matter about Dorne. This will be about dragons, dothraki, unsullied, and the north/vale now. I thought that was proper closure to Ellaria and Dorne.
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So Dorne was pretty much pointless in the story? Got it.
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Well, Oberyn's scene in the cell with Tyrion was pretty awesome, as well as getting his head squished like grape. Then he's the reason Zombie Mountain isn't just Mountain. And it's the reason Myrcella croaked. I don't think it was pointless even though it may not be a factor at the very end.
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Hulla Baller said:

So Dorne was pretty much pointless in the story? Got it.
They killed Myrcella which set off a lot of Cersei's wrath, so I guess there's that.
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Stolen from the politics board:


No Spin Ag said:

https://www.yahoo.com/news/1-annoying-thing-jon-daenerys-181703593.html

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One of the great feats of Game of Thrones is that for the hour every Sunday I spend watching each episode, I'm completely transported from reality and taken deep into the wild world of Westeros. When I was watching "The Queen's Justice," however, one scene felt all too real. Like, ripped-from-the-headlines, why-am-I-still-protesting-this-sh*t real.

It was the much-anticipated meeting of Jon Snow and Daenerys, and it went a little something like this:
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Missandei: "You stand in the presence of Daenerys Stormborn of House Targaryen, rightful heir to the Iron Throne, rightful queen of the Andals and the First Men, protector of the Seven Kingdoms, the Mother of Dragons, the Khaleesi of the Great Grass Sea, the Unburnt, the Breaker of Chains."
Davos: "This is Jon Snow."
(Awkward silence . . .)
Davos: "He's King of the North."
The long-awaited scene garnered lots of chatter on social media, namely that the whole laundry list of Daenerys's titles is getting to be rather annoying, as is Daenerys herself, and about how refreshing it is that

Jon Snow doesn't concern himself with accolades. He's the real deal.

Did no one else see what I saw?

Because I was watching the most obvious metaphor for sexism in the workplace, the most stereotypical man-versus-woman job interview in fake history.

Here's this orphan girl, who spent the better part of her life being subjugated by men, toiling endlessly to rise up and do some good along the way (ahem, she freed a bunch of slaves). She's now in a position of power, backed by a killer rsum. She's a working mom with three unruly toddlers, she's proud of her accomplishments, and she isn't about to be all modest about it.

And here's Jon Snow, a ******* with no birthright, yes, but a white man who apparently needs no introduction just the same.


The ENTIRE GOT fandom knows this scene was intentionally done to bring a little levity into the scene, and also to show how different those in the north are compared to the rest of the kingdoms.

And yet here we have someone who found a way to get offended about something that was humorous, and nothing more.

Politics related because feminism and because GOT is the sheit.

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Hulla Baller said:

So Dorne was pretty much pointless in the story? Got it.
Oh I suppose they could still be rallied to fight. They supposedly have a formidable army. Probably pretty unlikely, but in a show with dragons and the undead it's not impossible.
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Not even that. Wasn't it just her ear?
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Dorne story is going to be black and white different than the show.

That is, if we ever get another f-ing book.
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dc509 said:

Hulla Baller said:

So Dorne was pretty much pointless in the story? Got it.
Oh I suppose they could still be rallied to fight. They supposedly have a formidable army. Probably pretty unlikely, but in a show with dragons and the walking dead it's not impossible.
wrong thread, CORAL
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Took care of that.
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smokeythebear said:

To get back to discussion about this week's episode, I do not expect much in terms of repercussions against Tyrion for his battlefield losses. Again, he is Hand of the Queen, not Commander of the army. Certainly, Dany was counting on his strategy to work, but Tyrion is not a battlefield commander, he is a political strategist and city manager. Essentially, he is a Senator while Jamie, Sir Jorah, Sir Davos, and Jon are all 5 star Generals. Dany doesn't have anymore 5 star Generals since she left Daario in Mereen but now she conveniently has Davos and Jon on her island. I expect Tyrion to admit as much in his pleas to Jon and Davos for help.


I could be mistaken, but I don't think Davos woukd be considered a general? Certainly not more so than Tyrion.
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It's a little presumptuous to assume that Jon is good military commander. Certainly we wouldn't assume that from his horrible showing in the Battle of the *******s. And Davos is just a pirate. As far as I know the Battle of the *******s is the most successful thing he's been involved with. I guess he was with Stannis when he caught the Wildlings unawares and slaughtered them.

That these are the military men Dany has to rely on doesn't seem like a good thing. The Unsullied have also seemed fairly incompetent throughout the show. The other side has Randyll ****ing Tarly. But Dany does have dragons.
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Carl Underguard said:

And Davos is just a pirate. As far as I know the Battle of the *******s is the most successful thing he's been involved with.
Davos made a name for himself as the "Onion Knight" during Robert's rebellion. Davos evaded the blockade of Shipwreck Bay to smuggle onions and salted fish into the castle, knowing the starving people would pay him the best price. The food allowed Stannis' men to hold on until Ned Stark arrived to break the siege. As a reward for his service, Stannis knighted Davos, giving him choice lands and allowing him to choose Seaworth as the name of his new house.
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M.C. Swag said:

Carl Underguard said:

And Davos is just a pirate. As far as I know the Battle of the *******s is the most successful thing he's been involved with.
Davos made a name for himself as the "Onion Knight" during Robert's rebellion. Davos evaded the blockade of Shipwreck Bay to smuggle onions and salted fish into the castle, knowing the starving people would pay him the best price. The food allowed Stannis' men to hold on until Ned Stark arrived to break the siege. As a reward for his service, Stannis knighted Davos, giving him choice lands and allowing him to choose Seaworth as the name of his new house.
And cut of some of his fingers as punishment for his past smuggling
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Yeah, I meant to say smuggler, not pirate. It was supposed to be a reference to the books where he's always saying he was "just a smuggler" when he finds himself in situations he doesn't feel qualified for. Anyway, he's not a military man.
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Given that the Dohtraki are the army she has left with her, she will likely have some generals there she can talk too..even after she BBQ'd the main khals
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Unless I misremembering that, too. Always a possibility.
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nikator said:

Given that the Dohtraki are the army she has left with her, she will likely have some generals there she can talk too..even after she BBQ'd the main khals
Dany has no generals really. Dothraki are used to raiding towns and other tribes they have never fought organized infantry and horse. Jon has a decent grasp of tactics per the BoB planning scenes. Jorah, at least as mentioned in books and show, has no military leading experience.

Of course a sneak attack with Dothraki and dragons would be consistent with Dothraki "tactics" as opposed to siege.
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Turns out Jon Snow's intro wasn't about Femisism, it was a wake up to call black America!

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Beware of White Allies

What happens when you mix white feminism with white privilege and add a dash of white allyship? You get Daenerys Targaryenthe physical embodiment of the word "problematic."

While it might be true that she is the "breaker of chains" (notice how she rattled off every one of her titles when our play cousin Jon Snow walked into her living room at Dragonstone, while Davos simply introduced Jon Snow as ... well ... Jon Snow), we must remember that Daenerys' much-ballyhooed benevolence is tied to her obsession with winning the presidency Iron Throne.

She repeatedly reminds everyone how she helped free oppressed people across the Seven Kingdoms, but doesn't mention that she's now using those same people as disposable pawns in her narcissistic quest for ultimate power. Daenerys wants Jon Snow to honor the pledges of his ancestors while simultaneously distancing herself from the atrocities committed by her forebears. Isn't that the epitome of white privilege?

Her only accomplishments were achieved because she was born in the right family and had dragons dropped in her lap, yet she expects everyone she comes in contact with to "bend the knee." The only reason Daenerys even pretends to care about the rise of the "Alt-White" Walkers is that she needs an endorsement from our people in the North.

Trust me, Daenerys Hillary Targaryen Clinton doesn't believe that #UnsulliedLivesMatter.


http://thegrapevine.theroot.com/sundays-game-of-thrones-was-a-message-to-black-america-1797386445
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This is sarcasm, right? No way somebody can actually believe this.
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Carl Underguard said:

This is sarcasm, right? No way somebody can actually believe this.
Its either that or the author and 80% of the people leaving comments are in on the sarcasm. This is the same group of people who would have made the "Jon Snow's intro is the height of the patriarchy" argument so yeah, I think they are for real.

And you thought the people who came up with the Targ theories read too much into this show!
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Quote:

Its either that or the author and 80% of the people leaving comments are in on the sarcasm.
This is what I'm going to choose to believe. That's the world I want to live in.
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Javelina said:


Excellent song choices this week...





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Acting question: are actors told not to blink? That scene with Dany and Jon meeting, I don't think anyone but Tyrion blinked at all... maybe it's supposed to convey the rising unease in the room. But especially when Dany walks down from the dais toward Jon, neither of them blink for like 5 minutes there.
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Hulla Baller said:

So Dorne was pretty much pointless in the story? Got it.
Dorne had a 50,000 man army... did they all sink on Yara's ships? I thought they were caught by Euron on the way to pick up the Dornish Army. Therefore, there is a 50,000 man army still waiting around headless in Dorne
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Carl Underguard said:

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Its either that or the author and 80% of the people leaving comments are in on the sarcasm.
This is what I'm going to choose to believe. That's the world I want to live in.
I think it's just an academic competition of "well if I don't write it someone else will draw this same analogy and get credit and accolades, so I better show I am the quicker writer and publish this to take all the glory even though it's a crap analogy and no one really believes this... I get attention"
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Good lord people ****ing really reach to find meaning in random ***** This world is pretty much doomed
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