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****AMC’s “Preacher” Discussion****

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Counterpoint
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This is weird because I have liked both episodes a lot, but I'm on the fence about it. If it stays like this (with a little more explanation about what is going on) I'll love it, but I don't want it to turn into a "crime of the week" show with a preacher and a vampire.

I really like the look of it and the music.
Counterpoint
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Why isn't there more discussion about this show? It seems like a show Texags would really like!
jr15aggie
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Goat Man
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I really liked this past episode. I enjoy how they slowly tell the story, makes it interesting to watch. Certainly not my favorite show ever but I never go more than a couple of days without watching it on DVR.
toucan82
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I hate to admit it, but one of my problems with this show is not buying Dominic Cooper as some sort of badass
PoopKing
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Yeah. I'm def enjoying the side characters more.
Goat Man
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I never thought about that. I definitely enjoy the supporting cast more than Preacher. He may be the weak link.
toucan82
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last couple of episodes have been pretty good

the opening scene in the motel last night was hilarious
Counterpoint
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"Go to Hell, Eugene!"
israeliag
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Watched the first 7 eps in about a week, and I'm hooked. This show is weird as hell, and for no good reason I'm loving it. I read one of Gareth Ennis' books - Crossed - so the weird makes sense coming from him (though I hadn't read Preacher). It'll be interesting to see just how weird this goes (especially with the snuff films watching dude lurking somewhere).

Still one episode left to catch up to where the series is now, but I'll probably catch that today. Honestly surprised though how buried this thread is on the e-board, I figured there'd be a good group on TexAgs that would dig this.

All the acting, minus Ruth Negga's terrible, terrible accent, is good. Someone said they don't buy Dominic Cooper as a badass, but I think he's great in the role (and don't think he's exactly meant to be a badass - just a guy with a violent past). The "clones/angels", arseface, and especially Cassidy are terrific characters, and Jackie Earle Hayley always is great in whatever he does.
M.C. Swag
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Great post. I agree with most of what you said...I want to like it, and I think I do for the most part. But I'm still confused about what type of show I'm watching. Cassidy is TERRIFIC. Idk who the actor is but he's completely captivating me. He's the only character I find truly authentic. I think Dom Cooper is passable.

A lot of words just to say, for me, the jury is still out. I'm still watching but I'm not at the point of recommending it to others yet. I wanna see where it's heading. How far supernatural/religious/mythological/super-hero-ey...

(Pardon the randomness. I'm on a phone at a bar)
Counterpoint
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Honestly surprised though how buried this thread is on the e-board, I figured there'd be a good group on TexAgs that would dig this.


I've said that many times!
israeliag
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israeliag
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Hmm... seemed to have lost my post above.

It was too long to try to rewrite, but agree that Cassidy's actor is nails (and his range expands as the show progresses).

I like Cooper - while I agree that the drop wouldn't be much if he's replaced, he's show as Howard Stark that he can switch from charismatic to ****ish with the best of them.

And yeah - it's a hard one to recommend to others, because it's not like, say GoT, where you could say it's first and foremost a political drama, or Walking Dead, where you could say it's first and foremost a show about survival and the good/evil within each of us.
Counterpoint
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Hmm... seemed to have lost my post above.

It was too long to try to rewrite, but agree that Cassidy's actor is nails (and his range expands as the show progresses).

I like Cooper - while I agree that the drop wouldn't be much if he's replaced, he's show as Howard Stark that he can switch from charismatic to ****ish with the best of them.

And yeah - it's a hard one to recommend to others, because it's not like, say GoT, where you could say it's first and foremost a political drama, or Walking Dead, where you could say it's first and foremost a show about survival and the good/evil within each of us.
The most recent episode is the only one I'd feel nervous about recommending to someone. The Civil War re-enactors trying to take the church while the cop sat there and watched, plus the legality of being ABLE to do that because of a bet seemed too unrealistic*. Not to mention how that guy was acting after he got his manhood shot off!

*He said while watching a show about a vampire and angels and demons.

Goat Man
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Honestly surprised though how buried this thread is on the e-board, I figured there'd be a good group on TexAgs that would dig this.


I've said that many times!

I've pretty much said the same thing. It really surprises me more people are not interested in it. Then again, I like it but I also would not recommend it to anyone just yet.
Aldo the Apache
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If you like Cassidy, you should watch Misfits, he's a main character in seasons 3-5 and is just terrific. It's on Hulu still I believe
nickstro66
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Poor Eugene
israeliag
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Just caught up last night. Yeah, the whole bet thing was annoying. But I guess the point is this town is essentially the wild west (maybe the flashbacks to the wild west are there not only to build up the background and mythology of this place, but to remind us that it's the wild west).

I do love Quincannon's soapbox speeches though, just hilarious how they are so anti-climatic and the exact opposite of every typical leader-giving-a-stirring-speech movie moment. "We're going to build a food court!"

Ohh, and [SPOILER FOR ONE OF THE BEST JOKES ON THE SHOW]





















































/END SPOILER
fig96
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Ok, caught up and I have to say I'm really entertained by this show.

The first ep was a bit sporadic, but as the show has settled in and more of the subplots have been revealed its gotten really interesting.

Agreed that the church siege was a bit oddly handled by the authorities, but I'm curious to see how that all resolves next ep. And yes, Cassidy is by far the best character on this show.

For anyone who only watched the pilot I'd give the next few eps a chance, it's gotten really odd/fun/somethingIcant'tputintowords.
Goat Man
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I think your last paragraph sums it up nicely. I think the show is very entertaining, but not in the typical sense of the word.
p_bubel
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Welp, that's one way to end a season.
Squirrel Master
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I recommended this show to a buddy who tends to have the same tastes as me. He asked what its about. "Well, ummmm... I have no clue. But I really dig it."

What a bizarre finale. I'm curious if everyone but the three of them that had already left really died. But it seems so. But how this show handles major moments always leaves me wondering if it really happened how I saw it.

toucan82
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Well that was interesting
jr15aggie
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As a Christian, man this show is sacrilegious! And the finale was like really really sacrilegious. But it's definitely entertaining and a strange beast for sure. The Cassidy character is fantastic. Not sure if I'll show up for season 2 just on religious principle (which, I know, is ironic because that is exactly what the show is challenging), but I can't fault it on purely entertainment value.
Joe Exotic
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The little girl made of ground beef was so completely ****ed up
La Fours
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Dude, so Emily went savage on poor Miles. Damn.
Counterpoint
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As a Christian, man this show is sacrilegious!
Even though that guy ended up being an impostor, and they are looking for the real God now? I think it's kind of cool that a show is saying "God exists, but he's just missing" to explain what is going on in the world right now.

*But what I just wrote is the opinion of a fairly non-religious person, so I totally respect what you're saying.
jr15aggie
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As a Christian, man this show is sacrilegious!
Even though that guy ended up being an impostor, and they are looking for the real God now? I think it's kind of cool that a show is saying "God exists, but he's just missing" to explain what is going on in the world right now.

*But what I just wrote is the opinion of a fairly non-religious person, so I totally respect what you're saying.

Yeah it's funny cause the show actually has some very Christian values to it as well. Ignoring the video conference with the fake god because the real one is missing... some of the Preachers core values and messages really do speak to what God wants from Christians.

What is really relevant in today's world is how the Preacher, at times, doesn't let his past mistakes (and his current ones) keep him from loving people regardless of who they are or what they've done for us. That is a very key principle in the Bible... "love thy neighbor as thyself". In this case for Preacher his neighbors happen to be a Vampire and a whole town full of messed up people. It's a bit out there, like everything else in this show, but that core value does show up from time to time.

W/out getting too deep and political, I think you could make a case that the show somewhat mirrors the real life American mess right now with different races, sexual orientations, etc. all getting ticked off for one reason or another. None of these groups are perfect by any means, but we'd make a lot more progress if we could just let God be the judge and we spend our time loving/caring for one another!

But generally speaking I think the show is just having a good time with some very bizarre story elements. I don't think they are purposely sending messages one way or another.
Sentinel
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Definitely hooked on this show! What an ending too. Hated Tulip until this last episode. I was waiting for someone to beat the crap out of her.
israeliag
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Crazy ending. Some great soundtrack moments, too, with the various covers they played.

Looking forward to the road-trip those three are about to take, and being hunted by that cowboy from hell.
evan_aggie
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I feel like a bozo. There is a lot of the show I just don't get, and I don't think of myself as a dullard either.



schmendeler
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I really like this show, but I can't say that it's objectively really good. It's weird that way.
israeliag
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I feel like a bozo. There is a lot of the show I just don't get, and I don't think of myself as a dullard either.




What don't you get? (Not being an ass - genuinely want to know and have a discussion about it.)
Squirrel Master
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As the show was going on, there was a ton to not get. But I think they did a pretty good job of linking things up and answering questions as we went.
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